Hacking First rom with new protection?

[Thirty3Three]

Obviously Gateway will get it to work, regardless of extra security. Look at the PS3 scene. Yup.

Also, look at all the things idiots laughed at and "knew" wasn't possible for Gateway (Multirom, region-free, etc.).

It's only a matter of time.

 

[zhdarkstar]

or bigbluebox are upto their old tricks

You mean release a rom that has been corrupted just enough that the only way to make it work would be for the flashcart makers to do something that would essentially give up the keys to the kingdom? That worked so well for them last time with Liberation Maiden...

 

[gamesquest1]

well i just had a lil look and the flag for 7.x encryption does indeed appear to be set, and to see if bbb where trolling us again i changed it to not using 7.x encryption and still doesn't work, so probably is the first 7.x encrypted game (outside of eshop)

 

[DarkKnightPT]

have you guys tested out the japanese version to check if it also has 7.x encryption ?

 

[gamesquest1]

have you guys tested out the japanese version to check if it also has 7.x encryption ?

the Japanese one is old....like 4.5 old

 

[phanteon]

hopefuly gw will crack this before smash comes out

 

[LegendaryFighter]

hopefuly gw will crack this before smash comes out

If the people from team GW find a solution, they better wait until they share it with us. As mentioned by Abcdfv,

Nintendo wouldn't have any problems to change the encryption and then we need a new exploit. Best thing (from my pointof view) would be to wait a year until there are enough not-working games.http://gbatemp.net/members/abcdfv.342352/

 

[salvatore]

any news from GW team about this rom?

 

[gamesquest1]

it would all depend on what gateways "fix" is, if they have a way of always retrieving the keys, or if they have a way to always decrypt the game to share a pre-decrypted version, as it stands nobody knows what this "fix" will be or how they plan to do it....or even if they will do it at all, i have faith they will, but until we know more about what they are doing we don't know how versatile their solution is..

 

[Huntereb]

Damn, this sucks. This game looked like a nice release.

 

[tHciNc]

Looks like the first of the SDK 7.x.x games have appeared

 

[justinkb]

GW will find a way. Probably

 

[klim28]

Lets see if the US version have the same protection as the EU version

 

[Rinnux]

Gateway has always pulled through and surprised us. Even if it takes them months and months, I am 100% confident that they will find a solution.

 

[Queno138]

IIRC, one of the users managed to get 7.2 blocked apps (namely e-shop) to run on GW:

Disclaimer: he has USB hardmod to dump and backup nand, hence why this worked.

1. Dumped his 4.5 Sysnand
2. Upgraded his Sysnand to 7.2
3. (hardmod) dumped his 7.2 Sysnand
4. (hardmod) reverted to 4.5 Sysnand
5. Enter Emunand, using the dumped 7.2 Sysnand.

I'm wondering if this method will bypass the present rom situation.

(of course this is useless to those without the hardmod, I'm just curious)..

The eshop does indeed work. I'm reverting the on board nand back and going to overwrite emu now.

 

[Duo8]

IIRC, one of the users managed to get 7.2 blocked apps (namely e-shop) to run on GW:

Disclaimer: he has USB hardmod to dump and backup nand, hence why this worked.

1. Dumped his 4.5 Sysnand
2. Upgraded his Sysnand to 7.2
3. (hardmod) dumped his 7.2 Sysnand
4. (hardmod) reverted to 4.5 Sysnand
5. Enter Emunand, using the dumped 7.2 Sysnand.

I'm wondering if this method will bypass the present rom situation.

(of course this is useless to those without the hardmod, I'm just curious)..

Technically that shouldn't work due to the keys being init'd at boot, unless I'm missing something.

 

[Queno138]

Technically that shouldn't work due to the keys being init'd at boot, unless I'm missing something.

There's a chance that I misunderstand something.

But I've tried retracing his posts:

Spoiler

I predict every online game will have an update coming then. I actually have a USB mod, so I'm gonna dump my 4.5, overwrite my emu to the real, get the stuff I missed, then go back. I'll let y'all know if it works.

It shouldn't work as the items you download will be encrypted with keys that your 4.5 won't be able to decrypt when you downgrade. However, chances are that you've already started the process by the time you read this, so do report back your findings.

Oh, so you think Nintendo may have updated all the game patches to 7.0 keys? That's entirely possible. But I'll report back.

Status update: Tried writing back through the cord, but got an error. So I'm gonna try doing a read and write again. If not, this might take longer as I'll actually have to update the on board 4.5 to 7.2, instead of transplanted 7.1 to 7.2.

it shouldn't work, since the system you want to use the data on does not have the tickets/whatever for it.
just how if you download dlc/updates etc, say in emunand, then check the app data stuff in the real system nand, the dlc/updates will get deleted because the real nand does not recongize them, because they are not authenticated (or something like that) even though it is on the same console.


not, it's different, gateway might get past the 7.x stuff sure, but still, the 'door' to hack the system was at 4.5, and still will be.
if gateway find a new 'door', and we can load gateway or something similar FROM 7.x firmwares, then we won't have to worry about the encryption but that is unlikely soon

Right, but that's as long as if you don't check on it in real nand? Anyway, I got the updates, and I'm reading the 7.2 back to my hard drive, and will splice it in as the new emunand, and see what happens. If not, that's okay.

oh, flashing the newly updated (and currently broken-ish) 7.2 emunand to the system, so that eshop will work (hopefully), and then restore it back to emunand, so the downloaded updates will work. very nice idea! sorry i misunderstood thanks

The eshop does indeed work. I'm reverting the on board nand back and going to overwrite emu now.

I wasn't paying too much attention to the color, but it really does seem faster, so that's cool.

Patches were recognized by the one game I tested that I didn't have before, so that's neat.

Edit: maybe they were only referring to patches, or something.

EDIT 2:
His ultimate post:

You have to have a USB Mod to get it to work. I'm using the one that aliak11 made for me.

1. Plug it in to sd card slot or adapter on your computer and turn it on. The 3DS screen may stay black or have a blue error screen. This is normal.
2. When it's recognized by the computer, it'll ask if you want to format. DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T do this. Just cancel.
3. Download win32diskimager, point it to the 3ds device drive, then click read. This will dump your onboard nand. It'd be a very good idea to dump more than one and check the hash info to make sure they're the same, so that you got an accurate dump. EDIT: Safely remove your 3ds and turn off before your remove your onboard SD card and plug it it, we'll be playing with its EMUnand partition now.
4. Use emunand tool to extract the emunand.bin from your emunand partition into a readable file. Again, do more than one and check your hashes. EDIT: When you're done, safely remove your SD card, put it back into your 3DS. Then plug your 3ds back into your computer MAKE SURE TO HIT CANCEL ON THE WINDOWS FORMAT PROMPT.
5. We'll take this emunand.bin into win32diskimager, then click write to write back to the 3DS. After doing this, right click that drive to safely eject. Then hold down the power on your 3ds, and the blue light will eventually turn off.
6. When you reboot, you should be on 7.1 or whatever the emunand was on your onboard. Go ahead and update to 7.2 and get whatever you want back.
7. After your done, turn off the 3DS. Plug it back into the computer and turn on MAKE SURE NOT TO HIT FORMAT ON THE PROMPT AGAIN.
8. Win32diskimager, click read to dump your 7.2 nand. Then write back your 4.5 nand to the onboard nand. EDIT: Safely remove your 3DS, turn it off, then plug in the onboard SD card into your computer.
9. Use the emunand tool to import your 7.2 nand into the emunand partition.
10. EDIT: Safely remove your SD card, put it in your 3ds. Withe verything done, it should be back on 4.5. And when you load gateway, you'll have a 7.2 emunand with your patches or whatever you got on it. Enjoy.

 

[gamesquest1]

Nope it wouldn't work, the game is encrypted using 7.x encryption, as was the eshop and system settings.....which is why you need to download the updates before downgrading again, once your back on 4.x eshop and 7.x encrypted content won't work......but the updates from eshop are not using 7.x encryption, so they still work even after downgrading

 

[Wizardy]

That won't work. As soon as you go back to 4.5 the 7.2 loads with the old keys, and the eshop and everything stops working.

 

[Queno138]

Based on his ultimate post,

It's merely to use eshop to download games and patches.

so in other words, when you flash back to emunand, you have games and patches that will work,
as long as it ain't 7.0 locked.

It's just a bypass into e-shop, not solving the underlining problem of 7.0 lock.