FAO Developers - Western Digital's new "Advanced Format"

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  1. dabotsonline
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    Dear all,

    If you are not already aware, Western Digital have started to introduce new "Advanced Format" Caviar Green drives built to be partitioned with 4 kilobyte rather than 512 byte sectors. These drives are identified by the suffix "EARS" (rather than the older "EADS" - i.e. an R instead of a D) and 64MB cache (rather than the older 32MB). In the UK, the two-platter 1TB (WD10EARS) and the three-platter 1.5TB (WD15EARS) models are already on sale, with the four-platter 2TB (WD20EARS) model due to become available over the coming weeks.

    Western Digital are rolling this technology out across their range and presumably the other manufacturers will soon follow suit with similar technologies. I recall that a Drobo spokesperson remarked recently that 3TB hard drives are expected to be released around April.

    Here are some details:

    http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/12/23/drobo-...-format-drives/

    http://storagemojo.com/2009/12/21/why-we-need-4k-drives/

    http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=8113

    http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3691

    http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/whit...2579-771430.pdf

    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/advancedformat/


    A quote from the first link:

    From the table listed, is this saying that Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Mac OS should automatically identify the drive as an "advanced format" model, removing the need for using WD Align? Where does this leave us for using loader-based or PC-based tools (on the various versions of Windows) for partitioning the drive into multiple partitions, including WBFS? ("> 1 Partition" as the table points out).

    Incidentally, I am about to buy a Wii and my plan is to use an Antec MX-1 enclosure, turned on 24/7, with a brand new 2TB HDD. I intend to use GParted through Parted Magic running in RAM to create two partitions: a 1TB NTFS partition storing full-size Wii ISOs to be read by USB Loader GX / Configurable USB Loader; and a 1TB FAT32 partition storing all other ISOs and ROMs, including VC and WiiWare games, and also an emulated NAND ( http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=184...t&p=2501953 ).


    Based on the replies to this thread, my 2TB drive will either be the AV-GP WD20EVDS, the brand new (not yet available in the UK) Samsung F3EG HD203WI - an "EcoGreen" model despite being an F3, when those properties are usually found in the F2 series, this new WD20EARS or the older WD20EADS (not listed in the USB Devices wiki but which apparently has some problems with drive "head parking", although presumably not according to this guy: http://www.ioffer.com/i/500-Wii-games-on-I...Drive-134036485 ).

    Thanks for your time and a Happy New Year,

    Nick
     
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    All I know is that the bigger the HDD on WD drives, the more likely they are to fail. If they can cram 3TB into a single drive and have it last more than two years, I'll be surprised.
     
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    Any other thoughts from anyone?
     
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    WD 1.5 TB drives do not work with WBFS, at least in my experience. My friend got a MyBook 1.5TB for xmas. It worked fine on the PC, but the damn thing acted like it was intentionally designed to kill loaders.

    Here's what happened with the stupid thing: USB Loader GX would not format it to WBFS, nor would any PC utility designed to format to WBFS. PC tools either failed or displayed a success message without doing anything. USB Loaders simply said there were no partitions.

    In addition, anytime the drive was attached to the wii, any USB loader would either hang when you ran it, or code dump.

    He took it back and got a second one, which did the same thing. Finally, he just returned it and got a Seagate 1TB which worked out of the box.

    I'm not sure if it was the MyBook enclosure or the HDD in it though. I have a feeling it was the drive since I see people post one here mentioning they have a 1TB model that work fine.
     
  5. Liberty

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    Do we have to used the Advanced Format Utility to get this drive working with a Wii?
     
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    I have a WD Elements 1.5TB drive and have had no issues with the wii or usb loading.
     
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    Thats why no one uses WBFS anymore....
     
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    May anyone give me an answer to my question? The Wii is not recognizing my WD15EARS-drive, while Windows 7 does.
     
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    Put a Jumper across pins 7 & 8 (master/slave) then format it, Fat32 @ 32 bytes now Sneek, TriiForce, ect see's it
     

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