Suggestion Don't allow new users to bump old posts

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  1. Dionicio3
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    Hello! I recently notice a lot of new users have been bumping post about 4 months since last reply. I feel that users should not be able to reply to posts if
    1. They have less than 100 post
    2. The last post was more that 90 days ago
    3. The user joined within the last week
    Hopefully this will solve the issue for the most part. Thanks.

    EDIT: Ok, let be say what I mean, users should be allowed to comment on release threads, but random noob threads can not be replied to

    EDIT2: No, what I'm thinking of someone bumps a release thread like this, that's ok. But if someone bumps a noob support question like this, that should not be allowed. (These are random example threads)
     
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  2. Seriel

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  3. xtheman

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    yes to this
     
  4. mech

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    If there's a reason for old time users to reply to an old thread, a new user or some with not that many posts have the same right to post.
     
  6. evandixon

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    I don't think this is such a good idea. What if the user's posting a bug report in a program's release thread? Some release threads are watched by the author but aren't regularly updated.
     
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    I don't see it as a huge problem. Sometimes there are valid reasons to revive a thread.
    The more restrictions you place on new users, the less they will actually be able to make legitimate posts. There's already the post count limitation on who can post a question in Ask, which I find a bit silly since it just results in people making new threads instead. Isn't the whole point of Ask so that noobs can ask questions without flooding the forum with threads?
    Also, the more restrictions you place on new users, the more likely they will just give up and leave, and abandon whatever project it is that they were attempting (whether 3DS hacking, Wii U or otherwise)
    Sometimes people do necrobump threads for no good reason, but artificially limiting what new users can do is not the right way to go about things, I think, it makes things harder for people who have a legitimate reason to do those things.
     
  8. CZroe

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    Sorry, but this is a horrible idea. Let me tell you why:
    New users often register and sign up SPECIFICALLY because they have some information that needs to be added to an old thread, whether it is an update, correction, warning, etc, the place that google sends OTHER people is exactly where that kind of bump post belongs.

    Other forum communities have an unreasonable aversion to new topics that retread old ground but it seems that this is EXACTLY what you want to promote, unless you want certain topics to be off limits simply because they've been mentioned before a certain length of time ago.

    I've seen established users on other forums just waiting to pounce on whoever bumps an old thread regardless of the content/context. Let's avoid automating this elitist anti-newbie group-think and allow logic to dictate what is right on a case-by-case basis.

    This place is about the exchange of information and knowledge. Community-building is secondary and comes along with fostering the first. There are plenty of other places to start online communities, which is why it is the first thing that is the most important part distinguishing us from another Reddit or Facebook group.
     
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    i am ok with necrobump.. but smart necrobump.. the problem about necrobump is the next 5 guys who reply to OP without reading the thread or checking dates, or bitch about necrobump
    if there is a 5 year old thread and a person has questions related to that thread, it should use that thread, making information less fragmented and less scattered around in the search... the thing is.. if the 6 year old thread is a question, there is always someone answering to that question when op is probably long dead.. making users all start a debate or a fight about a subject which OP will never see

    instead "don't allowing" entirely, couldn't there be a warning "this thread was created 1 year ago, it is adviced to make a new thread, would you like to continue?"
    or "the person wich created this thread doesn't come to the temp more than a month ago, keep in mind he most likely will not answer, we suggest you to create a new thread"
     
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  10. CZroe

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    Even then, the OP isn't the only person landing there. Hopefully other people with the same question will land there (thanks, Google) and hopefully someone with the answer will put it there, regardless of the thread's age or the OP's presence/awareness.
     
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    heh, i meant.. OP made a question, someone replies and OP is good to go... 6 years later user "mike" joins and asks a related question about the problem.. gbatempers see the "new thread" notification, only read the first post, answer to the original question or bitch about necrobump, instead replying to mike because he was trying to get an honest answer.
    of course it's adviced to mike to create it's own thread, but what if the second post had download links, mike wants thoose links uploaded again, and gbatempers just rampage the thread either about the necro, or reply the OP as fast as possible without seing the original question is long dead\answered...
     
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  12. Columbo2811

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    You've only been here 2 months yourself op, does that give you the right to make suggestions. :)
     
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  13. Dionicio3
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    Ok, let be say what I mean, users should be allowed to comment on release threads, but random noob threads can not be replied to
     
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    or we could archive them? kind of like Reddit.
    I was also thinking, maybe we could add prefix to some threads,
    Like the following:
    Question,
    Release,
    F.A.Q,
    Solved,
    P.S.A,
    And such.
     
  15. Sonic Angel Knight

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    Just curious, why is umm "Bumps" Such a strict rule in the first place? According to observation. "Bump is commenting on a old post so that it appears on the front page of the recent post." Also not all kinds of post get bump and the ones that do get complaints are one that is probably days, weeks, months, years old.

    I can understand that if the post don't contribute to the topic as a wasted of space, but if someone has a reasonable post, then is not bad at all right? Other than that, it could just be misused to get attention for silly reasons. Still it seem like something that people discuss far often than anything i can come up with as problematic. If they didn't break a rule with the post, is it still bad to do it?
    Another idea.
     
  16. Dionicio3
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    No, what I'm thinking of some bumps a release thread like this, that's ok. But if someone bumps a noob support question like this, that should not be allowed. (These are random example threads)
     
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    Earth, bro-dude.
    This doesn't work. If the rules you suggest limit new users, what about older members? It should just be "common" sense to not bump a thread if you have no valid input.

    To another extent, maybe there's someone who's knowledgeable on many topics for problems that would benefit all people; what if someone asked about an emulator that never worked on X system over a year ago, received minimal assistance, the thread fell to obscurity, and a year later a new member has the solution to the problem? With your idea imposed, this scenario could never occur.

    No offense, but your rules are lacking logic to flow with each other. The clear easy path: don't be a time wasting son-of-a-bitch with your not-so-funny necrobump.
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    After reading your reply, maybe you should be the Guider of Noobs. Put all the relevant links to threads for every problem you've seen. It might get stickied, which would decrease necrobumps and multiple posts of the same problem. Of course you'd have to update it (your thread) once X method no longer works or there is an alternative.
     
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    Most noob bumpers are uninformed and never read stickies which then causes some more pointless activity in an outdated thread, so this is not a bad suggestion. If the topic were still relevant, the thread would not be that inactive so there must be something wrong with it. However, there are some legitimate reasons still. A warning might be the best solution but the restriction might do some good as well.
     
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  19. Dionicio3
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    I like this, but there is still one problem, some noobs don't look at stickied threads. And those tend to be the people who bump random noob support threads.
     
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    Doing that will turn Temp into a dictatorship :c