Does the AP in Phantasy Star Zero really prevent rare drops?

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  1. raylgo
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    Will the unpatched version never run or something? Because I have been playing for 30 something hours and all I have are crappy items... But the game runs fine and I dont remember if I patched this or not... (most likely not)
     
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    Download a 'clean' version, check the Game ID. Then patch it and check the Game ID again.

    Now check the Game ID of the version you are playing. Does it match the patched or unpatched?
     
  3. twiztidsinz

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    Yes the AP in PS0 will "reduce" your drops. You actually get the same number of drops, so many are just healing items (mono/di/tri mates and fluids) that you pretty much CANNOT collect them all.
    But with the AP bypass on, you'll find a fair number of healing items -- enough to help you through the levels, but you'll still have to buy from the shop if you're not careful -- and a significant increase in the drop frequency of weapons/armor.

    My suggestion is to make sure you have a clean game and use the AR code.
     
  4. raylgo
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    Guess I'll have to learn how to use AR cheats... Any links as to where to start?
     
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    You could start here, it has a lot of cheats already in there.
    Or you can use a cheat code editor.

    EDIT: dang it, twiztidsinz, you beat me to the punch!
     
  7. raylgo
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    If the game has been patched, does it still need the AP fix via AR cheat codes? And how do I check for the Game IDs? [​IMG]
     
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    http://cheats.gbatemp.net/forum/general-ha...ditor%27-r4cce/
     
  9. Aeladya

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    If you are using AKAIO 1.5.1 with an Acekard 2i then you shouldn't have a problem and can run a clean ROM right? I get a LOT of healing items and sometimes get rares so I wanted to make sure that was normal [​IMG].
     
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    The AP dos not prevent (in a block you from get at all meaning) from getting rares, it's just that it is waaaaaaaay more difficult.
    I've played a lot with the unpatched game, and I still managed to get one red box weapon, two or three Hero somethings (for the armor slots) and some tech discs. Heck, it was on the unpatched rom I managed to find the Bakery! I've never found it again!
    Well, that's it, play with the patched one if you want Items (weapons, techs, armors) and the umpatched one if you want lots of 'mates and 'fluids.
     
  11. twiztidsinz

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    To the best of my knowledge, only CycloDS works properly with an unpatched ROM.

    In addition to the lower drop rates of non-usable items, you cannot wifi with real card owners.
     
  12. lcleong

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    u are so wrong there dude! R4 1.18 also working perfect with clean rom!
     
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    wait...did you say xenophobia text ?
    ....now you make me get my ds and check for screen 0_0

    ohmygod.... and i did play without xenophobia txt
     
  14. twiztidsinz

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    Basically, this is what happened...
    Xenophobia (XPA) released a bad ROM dump (partially trimmed/under dumped).
    Bahamut took XPA's release and fixed it.
    XPA released an AP patch with a readme falsely accusing of Bahamut crying and releasing a bad dump of the ROM.
    Bahamut took XPA's patch and re-released it for their fixed ROM.
    XPA cried some more.

    All you really need to know is:
    Byte for byte Fixed XPA PS0 = Regular Bahamut PS0.
    Byte for byte Patched XPA PS0 = Patched Bahamut PS0.
     
  15. KazoWAR

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    I made a AR code that cracks the anti-piracy for the U version. just use it with a clean rom.
    Code:
    020C5464 E3A00000
    020C5468 E12FFF1E
    020C557C E3A00000
    020C5580 E12FFF1E
    020C590C E3A00000
    020C5910 E12FFF1E
    020C5A14 E3A00000
    020C5A18 E12FFF1E
    020C5EBC E3A00000
    020C5EC0 E12FFF1E
    020C5F7C E3A00000
    020C5F80 E12FFF1E
    020C603C E3A00000
    020C6040 E12FFF1E
    020C6114 E3A00000
    020C6118 E12FFF1E
     
  16. twiztidsinz

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    Elixir still hasn't added it to the CheatDB...