Autism and its spectrum

Does having asperger counts as being on the spectrum?

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Genius? Don't make me laugh!
Technically yes in a sense we are the more Normal in comparison and can be genius in things we are familiar with because we actively research it. may not always be useful info but we excel far beyond the norms in things we fancy. its not called Aspergers anymore just "High Functioning."
 

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i heard it does but im not sure.
Pretty much every medical authority I know of classifies it as on the high-functioning side of ASD.
Yeah it's on there. I think it's like the genius level of Autism, or somehting like that.
Sort of luck of the draw with that one. I kind of got lucky as it made me extremely obsessed with tech (therefore soaked in all the info I can about it really well), but completely f-ed over my social abilities, so unlucky in that sense. 3 of my friends also have it while not really showing major interest in a single topic, therefore not getting the 'genius level' thing you're talking about. It's what I mean with luck of the draw.
its not called Aspergers anymore just "High Functioning."
Only very recently that happened. I think it was 2013 for the US and 2019 here in the UK. Had to do with Hans Asperger being a controversial figure. But that's getting pretty political so not going to get into that here. A Google search should easily show the reasoning behind it.
 

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It's an outdated term, so try to shy away from using it. (I call it Ass Burgers, because the guy it was named after was a literal Nazi in history.) So we just say autism/autistic now.
Well I guess that saves people Googling it... I got unlucky that I was officially diagnosed with it just a few years before it was changed here. Would certainly prefer that not be the name written in my medical history.
 
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Good old OG Sperg was a Nazi, and (unrelated to that) his work was biased and with large gaps in research.
So Asperger's is being folded into the umbrella ASD diagnosis with a footnote.


That being said I have some issues with bundling everything including comorbidities under one large "autism spectrum" when there's barely any overlap between the ends of the spectrum (and it's not a linear spectrum it's more like a sea urchin of different aspects and you mix and match).

Basically the only thing everyone on the spectrum has in common is delayed social communication (and that's not unique to ASD so we're back to square one).

So we have a huge range of traits and manifestations, and support requirements and therapy approaches, many of them contradicting each other, and it's all mashed into a single diagnosis, "the SPECTRUM".

And then this happens:

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I actually like this question a lot thank you for that. I would say the blessing is the ability to learn things at a much quicker rate. As an example I taught myself how to play guitar just by listening to songs or by watching someone else play it. Then I have it down with one take so to speak.
 

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I actually like this question a lot thank you for that. I would say the blessing is the ability to learn things at a much quicker rate. As an example I taught myself how to play guitar just by listening to songs or by watching someone else play it.
That sounds nice, but do you actually know that its connected to autism? It can be hard to know that, maybe you are just very talented at playing guitar. Is there a way for you to feel if the things are connected? I am certainly missing that.
 

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Fair question, honestly I believe it very would could be, Based on conversations with the specialists I work with they have come to the conclusion that it is all connected. Do i believe that? Ehh depends.
You're absolutely right though it could be just talent. I have noticed since I was young my ability to learn things quickly, there is no bragging in that I just always got the feeling I was different from my peers.
 
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Good old OG Sperg was a Nazi, and (unrelated to that) his work was biased and with large gaps in research.
So Asperger's is being folded into the umbrella ASD diagnosis with a footnote.


That being said I have some issues with bundling everything including comorbidities under one large "autism spectrum" when there's barely any overlap between the ends of the spectrum (and it's not a linear spectrum it's more like a sea urchin of different aspects and you mix and match).

Basically the only thing everyone on the spectrum has in common is delayed social communication (and that's not unique to ASD so we're back to square one).

So we have a huge range of traits and manifestations, and support requirements and therapy approaches, many of them contradicting each other, and it's all mashed into a single diagnosis, "the SPECTRUM".

And then this happens:

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You could argue that its still better than creating divisions which result in a hierachy of "better to worse" kinds of autism, as that was often how those former divisions was interpreted, and personally I hate that. Even if it was originally unintented.
 
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I have to agree with that & also veho that is facts, not just delayed social communication but also depending on the person & case, emotional ques can be bad. I would know from experience for both lol. Forgot to quote what you said spring sorry.
 

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You could argue that its still better than creating divisions which result in a hierachy of "better to worse" kinds of autism, as that was often how those former divisions was interpreted, and personally I hate that. Even if it was originally unintented.

I don't think that generalizing it to a point where it loses all meaning helps anyone. We might as well go back to "pervasive developmental disorder" and let prejudice fly.


 

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