Do You Believe In God?

Do You Believe In God?

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The difference is that the KKK is a group whose main purpose is to be racist and Muslims are not

Well the KKK, like the Muslims, say it's not (from kkk.com)

"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb

Islam has multiple factions, like the KKK.
They both started out advocating war against people they classed as oppressors.

Maybe you are just prejudiced against the KKK.
 
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"Maybe you are just prejudiced against the KKK."

The KKK has an air of the cult about them (from what we have seen of their recruitment tactics it is certainly reminiscent) and as such the rank and file may necessitate something closer to pity, however assuming that someone that is a participating member of the KKK is a cunt seems a fairly valid thing to do.
 

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I believe in the power of myth. But i'm like Campbell itself. I play to believe each religion, but in theirs metaphoric meanings (Like, for example, a pedagogic way of insert a person in a given reality of a society, teaching Its rules), never in It's literal way: God Like a entity that really exists, Apple tree, heaven&hell, Mjolnir, Shiva, Ashanti: things and beings like that are for me just metaphoric constructions to prove a point. However, religions never were "built" rationally and here I must quote a guy that represents well all of this, Joseph Campbell:

"God is a metaphor for that which transcends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that."

I believe, then, in spirituality as something intrinsic to mankind. But I myself don't practice.

For whose whants to begin understand psychological, sociological, philosophical and historical meaning of Myth/Religion/God, start here: (1/6 volumes of interview, but the guy has a lot of books written). Dont worry! He speaks to the lay and to the experts.

Also, read Freud (totem&tabu), Rudolf Otto, Jostein Gaarder, Mircea Eliade, if deepen understanding is needed. To this theme, ignore Marx, he didnt knew what religion was about.
There are people who failed to understand the power of the creator and simply bind him to the description in the bible. If bible was indeed words from the creator itself then the descriptions are a dumbed down version so humans can understand. And heaven is not in form of a garden but human mind simply cannot comprehend.

And to all else.

And while this seems extrem, isis were simply a form of revenge (and also the government who can restrain them was shut down by the west) for what the west and soviet union did to the middle east starting from the cold war. The pain in the middle east are far more than what terriost caused today. We should appreciate that not every muslim turn on the west.
 
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There are people who failed to understand the power of the creator and simply bind him to the description in the bible. If bible was indeed words from the creator itself then the descriptions are a dumbed down version so humans can understand. And heaven is not in form of a garden but human mind simply cannot comprehend.

And to all else.

And while this seems extrem, isis were simply a form of revenge (and also the government who can restrain them was shut down by the west) for what the west and soviet union did to the middle east starting from the cold war. The pain in the middle east are far more than what terriost caused today. We should appreciate that not every muslim turn on the west.

Likes to me you quoted my post as if I saying/replying something about extremism groups, that I didn't. I just posted in answer to the 1st post of Jack_Sparrow. But i've seen your point (I guess). Well, regarding extremism groups, I think they misunterstood the meaning of the Religion they belong, and have been locked to the metaphors. Note that when I say "religion", I mean a form of "spiritual belief" in a given traditional religion, not the institutional or political side of the religion (catholic church, Islamic State, etc), thing that most people confuses about.
 

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If we think the world is a complex program then it hard to believe we can reach this far based solely on randomness code without crashing it. It's like you point a bunch of random dot and in the end it end up become a beautiful landscape picture.

So it's reasonable for some people to not believe in those randomness. Maybe there is no randomness, maybe all of this was a big plan of someone, someone with the power to put in the code and point those dot to a big picture. As far as we know, we could only answer the question of how it happen, we never have a real answer for why it happen. Why in a bunch of option we end up with this? Is it real just by chance?
 

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I'm absolutely astonished that this comparison of the KKK to Muslims has gotten this far
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Why is suicide a sin? I'm not for suicide but saying killing someone else and killing yourself are on the same level and deserve the same punishment is ridiculous.
Because your life isn't yours to take. It's Gods. He made you for a reason, and that reason was not to kill yourself. This isn't me talking, this is what Christians believe. And still, there is no way to forgive it because you can't even ask for forgiveness.
 

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If we think the world is a complex program then it hard to believe we can reach this far based solely on randomness code without crashing it. It's like you point a bunch of random dot and in the end it end up become a beautiful landscape picture.

So it's reasonable for some people to not believe in those randomness. Maybe there is no randomness, maybe all of this was a big plan of someone, someone with the power to put in the code and point those dot to a big picture. As far as we know, we could only answer the question of how it happen, we never have a real answer for why it happen. Why in a bunch of option we end up with this? Is it real just by chance?

Reality itself is both the hardware and software, and data. All our physics are just program, and we live as infinitely complex yet simple construct of information, or precisely numbers. But the fundamental of reality is far beyond what our computer have today. It is not binary, it has no bottleneck, the ram and storage is infinite, the programing is infinitely paralleled, data transfer happen in the same instance (actually time do not exist), it has no physical body and it just keeps going. I wonder how does physics came to being since the only thing that exist before it is existence. And before this how would a sentience came into being. And since the status before existence is non-existence (which is logically contradicting how I refer to non-existence make it exist), which is beyond logic we may never understand. And perhaps there are more than one being of sentience that are directly derived from existence. And for the purpose I think the first sentience is just lonely.
Anything in form of information, including our imagination is existing and thus real.
And what ever try to gather believers to increase their power are only to be considered low gods (sorry for pointing out, whoever believed the old religions).
 
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Because your life isn't yours to take. It's Gods. He made you for a reason, and that reason was not to kill yourself. This isn't me talking, this is what Christians believe. And still, there is no way to forgive it because you can't even ask for forgiveness.
So I understand that it isn't just you talking, but is that what you also believe?
 

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So I understand that it isn't just you talking, but is that what you also believe?
Not at all. As I said earlier, I'm on the border between atheist and agnostic. Just like being gay seems to be hard wired into the brain, some people are more prone to depression and what not. Anybody who COULD commit suicide can only do so because of the way their brain is wired and if there was a creator... guess what? He made you that way. Religions are hypocritical all over the place and MY brain is wired to think logically. Religion just doesn't compute.

And you could continue to add on to the shittiness of suicide by not simply stopping at the fact that you've taken away something that God created... you are also inflicting emotional harm on countless others. And of course, you aren't around to apologize and/or atone for that either.
 
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This has all been fluff up until now. The real question is: Are there video games in heaven?
If there's an afterlife, there better be video games.
The question that that invariably brings up is what would be the point? You could literally do anything you wanted for all of eternity, if you wanted to you could probably actually be in a physical version of said games
 
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