Hacking Dios Mios Lite

[BIFFTAZ]

Something is up with the compatibility list, Its just random numbers & letters (Like source or something).

 

[Vague Rant]

Thanks for pointing that out, BIFF, just fixed it. Seems like it was some kind of vandalism or else a spambot gone very wrong.

 

[Burton]

I think the best way for Crediar to work up on those bugs is that people post their DML logs, no point in just posting game X doesn't work for me:

http://gbatemp.net/topic/307341-dios-mios-lite/page__view__findpost__p__4103997

 

[SifJar]

I find this situation rather shallow and pedantic.

No, really, this is freaking childish behavior. Making it so ModMii can't install DML anymore is really ridiculous. But all that means is that there will be a LOT less people using DML, so less people who end up donating to those who have worked on DML. It's ModMii's loss, the communities loss, and also your loss.

Xflak has made sure that every developer has a spot on the credits page with links to their paypal for donations.

Xflak and I were actually just talking the other day about who will be the next "Developer of the Week", and we both thought that crediar should be next in line and we were already starting to work on it. XFlak tries to make it that not all money goes to him, but so that people are encouraged to donate to other developers too.

I'll tell you, the money that xflak has made off of linkbucks is negligible, seriously, you be shocked.

WHat demands do you have for ModMii to fit by your requirements? Whats a happy middle ground? Why all of a sudden make a big deal about this?

The way I see it, it's not that the DML devs are going out of their way to exclude ModMii, it's more they're not going out of their way to support it. If ModMii gets a few changes, it should still be able to compile it.

 

[pepxl]

so basically the DML.elf wont be compiled and added to the googlecode page by the devs anymore, we have to compile it ourselves if we want to try/use DML, no problem for me but IMHO not many users know how to compile from source. To me this just sounds like people are spittin the dummy because ModMii MIGHT be earning more from Linkbucks than DML is earning in donations, so the only way is to stop this is to self compile from source instead of handing DML.elf out on a plate ready to patch.

My 2 cents, enough of that then.......

 

[XFlak]

Wow, I can't believe I had to wake up and catch up on all this drama directed at me.

I intend to make one post on this subject and drop it, I don't want to derail this topic because I still want DML development to continue and thrive.

Spoiler

First off, before crediar (ie. SanGor) started working on DML again after it went open source (ie. rev22+) WiiPower approached ME, and asked if I could add support for DML beta's to ModMii. I actually dropped the work I was doing on ModMii Skin to finish that first because I didn't want to slow down DML development. WiiPower and I went back and forth and I made further changes at his request (ie. ModMii's DML debug mode option). So it kinda bothers me that I was requested to add support and now all this happens. WiiPower even asked me to make sure I add a lot of text giving crediar credit (which I would have done anyways) and that when the ModMii update with DML support is released to post about it in the DML thread. This is a minor point, because WiiPower was obviously okay with ModMii support, but then when crediar re-joined the DML he wasn't okay with it, which isn't hypocritical or anything because he specifically never made me any promises. And I agree that it's more important to appease the leader the DML team so development continues, so I don't blame WiiPower at all for letting crediar call the shots re. ModMii's DML support.

The way this was sprung on me was really inconsiderate. Rev 22+ was not uploaded in the fashion WiiPower and I agreed upon. If you look back a few pages in this thread you'll see that I was even okay with that because I thought the DML team didn't want the average joe modmii user building the latest beta's when so many new beta's were being churned out by the hour.

When I noticed people sharing WADs of DML, I PM'd SanGor and WiiPower asking if they would consider adding ModMii support for the latest DML rev's in an effort to avoid this (ie. less motivation to share WADs if anyone can easily build them with ModMii). To this I received no response even though I know they got the message. Then last night, before anything was posted about the removal of ModMii DML support, I noticed that all the older versions of DML that ModMii WAS still able to download were depreciated (btw, ModMii purposely does not show depreciated downloads because I wanted to give total control to the DML team as to what revs are available in ModMii), so DML support in ModMii was totally broken. I PM'd SanGor and WiiPower again nicely asking about it (I even said something along the lines of "please let me know either way"). Even if they have issues with me or my program, it's common courtesy to at least tell me "to my face" before posting about it here. I think all this could have been avoided if it was handled differently. I would have considered removing linkbucks from ModMii, but the way went down I wouldn't count on it.

On a side note, I just want to mention that my wife insists we donate 11% of our household income to charity. And I decided to also give ALL my linkbucks money (probably about $100/year) to charity in addition to the 11%. My mom has MS and that's one of the big charities I donate to. I don't care if u don't believe me, those who know me well know that I don't bullshit, and those who don't can think whatever they want. I honestly would have considered dropping linkbucks entirely from ModMii if I was approached man to man on the subject. But now I see the MS Society as a more worthy cause than appeasing a couple people. Don't get me wrong, if it was the ONLY way to continue to support DML in ModMii, then I would drop linkbucks... see where this is going? DML is open source, so it can be shared and uploaded to other places as long as the source is available (if crediar hadn't sold DML, then I would have no choice in the matter). I've already got someone hosting them somewhere who actually supports ModMii and I can count on him to continue to upload the latest rev's of DML without trying to pull a fast one on me and break ModMii DML support. So in the end what did this all accomplish? Absolutely nothing, but going forward the DML team will not have control over what rev's are available or featured in ModMii, instead that priviledge will fall on someone else (for now he will remain nameless as I'm not sure he wants me to get him involved in all this).

So you can expect to see a ModMii update with DML support fixed in the next few days. And I want to reiterate that even after all this I have nothing against crediar or WiiPower or any of the DML team. If you would still like some changes made to ModMii, please give me the courtesy of replying to one of my PMs and we can discuss it further in private.

 

[themanuel]

so basically the DML.elf wont be compiled and added to the googlecode page by the devs anymore, we have to compile it ourselves if we want to try/use DML, no problem for me but IMHO not many users know how to compile from source. To me this just sounds like people are spittin the dummy because ModMii MIGHT be earning more from Linkbucks than DML is earning in donations, so the only way is to stop this is to self compile from source instead of handing DML.elf out on a plate ready to patch.

My 2 cents, enough of that then.......

Why not just ask XFlak not to provide DML in ModMii?
Never mind. Bad timing on my post. I can get my answers from XFlak's post above.

 

[qwertymodo]

*facepalm* iosmodule.elf is perfectly legal to redistribute. Build it and pack it into ModMii like you do with the cIOS modules. It literally takes 10 seconds to build on my crappy laptop. It's that simple.

note: umm... just be sure to include the source, mmkay?

 

[DeadlyFoez]

The way I see it, it's not that the DML devs are going out of their way to exclude ModMii, it's more they're not going out of their way to support it. If ModMii gets a few changes, it should still be able to compile it.

They kind of did by going out of their way to depreciate the older revs so it broke modmii support.

As of Monday, Feb 13th DML is no longer supporting ModMii bc of the way ModMii is distributed, if the distribution of ModMii changes support will come back. Hope you understand.

So apparently they are willing to go out of their way, again, to have modmii support if XFlak drops linkbucks....

 

[Burton]

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[G0dLiKe]

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Orly?

 

[Etheboss]

I was very happy to see the community (devs. and users) work together with D2X cIOS and new possibilities that came with it like IOS reload blocking.
Too bad this already seems to be forgotten. The start of DML as open source was promising though..I hope people start working together again.
Lets keep it positive...and not destroy it on trivial things like this.

 

[XFlak]

I'm sure crediar is quite capable of having a gbatemp account that cannot be traced back to him. I've always been under the impression that SanGor is crediar's alias on the 'temp and I know others share my suspicions. If I'm mistaken then I'm mistaken, but I've even asked SanGor in the past if he's crediar, and he replied to my other questions but avoided that one in particular. So consider this a formal statement from me that I do not know 100% that SanGor is crediar, it's just my best guess + speculation.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Edit: Ignore this post.

 

[SifJar]

The way I see it, it's not that the DML devs are going out of their way to exclude ModMii, it's more they're not going out of their way to support it. If ModMii gets a few changes, it should still be able to compile it.

They kind of did by going out of their way to depreciate the older revs so it broke modmii support.

I did not know about that part when I made my post, I retract what I said. (Except the part about with a few changes, it should still be able to compile - but I think XFlak is probably too nice to do this, out of respect for crediar et al)

LOL is it my imagination or you just revealed Crediar is Sangor in that post!?

This is impossible bc crediar is german not us resident. also crediar isnt admin here

What's being admin got to do with anything? (I'm not commenting on whether SanGor is or is not crediar, I'm just confused as to the relevance of that particular statement).

 

[themanuel]

I was very happy to see the community (devs. and users) work together with D2X cIOS and new possibilities that came with it like IOS reload blocking.
Too bad this already seems to be forgotten. The start of DML as open source was promising though..I hope people start working together again.
Lets keep it positive...and not destroy it on trivial things like this.

I don't think d2x is dead. Davebaol still shows up and comments on the google code issues page every once in a while. I think he is just busy. During the last surge of activity, I brought to his attention the fact that you can play emunand games online using d2x with forwarder ISO's and he agreed to look into it with WiiPower and others, so that it could be made to work without forwarder ISO's. I don't know what become of that, but that was one of the things where I was most enthusiastic to see future progress.

I'm sure crediar is quite capable of having a gbatemp account that cannot be traced back to him. I've always been under the impression that SanGor is crediar's alias on the 'temp and I know others share my suspicions. If I'm mistaken then I'm mistaken, but I've even asked SanGor in the past if he's crediar, and he replied to my other questions but avoided that one in particular. So consider this a formal statement from me that I do not know 100% that SanGor is crediar, it's just my best guess + speculation.

I have my theories on this crediar fellow.
I think he is one of several possibilities:
1. A virtuoso computer engineering student abducted by SanGor, strapped to a desk in a basement, fed with intravenous fluids and drugs that keep him constantly awake, and forced to work on DML under the constant threat of electrocution
2. A self-aware virtual being created by accident by Wii hackers
3. An alien being that is providing Gamecube SD loading in exchange for body parts for alien research experiments
4. A whimsical demi-god that has acquired an interest in humans, particularly, video gaming
5. A disgruntled Nintendo programmer
6. Chuck Norris
His absence from the forums just adds to his mystique.
In all seriousness though, I'm a big fan of this guy, whoever he is, for accomplishing something I wanted to see done on Wii hacking for a long time. Kudos for achieving what surely must take considerable amounts of effort and talent.



Totally unnecessary. Now you are just trying to inflame.

 

[G0dLiKe]

The way I see it, it's not that the DML devs are going out of their way to exclude ModMii, it's more they're not going out of their way to support it. If ModMii gets a few changes, it should still be able to compile it.

They kind of did by going out of their way to depreciate the older revs so it broke modmii support.

As of Monday, Feb 13th DML is no longer supporting ModMii bc of the way ModMii is distributed, if the distribution of ModMii changes support will come back. Hope you understand.

So apparently they are willing to go out of their way, again, to have modmii support if XFlak drops linkbucks....

Ok, to make this clear once and for all, the way of distribution is not correct in my opinion. DML will not be uploaded in DMLrxx.zip anymore. If XFlak wishes to continue to have DML in ModMii then he is welcome to add a workaround which can make use of DML supported as DML.elf period. And if XFlak decides to not continue with DML in ModMii this is fine with me.

On a side note, I just want to mention that my wife insists we donate 11% of our household income to charity. And I decided to also give ALL my linkbucks money (probably about $100/year) to charity in addition to the 11%. My mom has MS and that's one of the big charities I donate to.

Why are you spamming this thread Joostin? reported.

And btw, I can not be held responsible if XFlak donates his earnings from ModMii to charity, therefor i am not taking from charity.

 

[JoostinOnline]

LOL is it my imagination or you just revealed Crediar is Sangor in that post!?

This is impossible bc crediar is german not us resident. also crediar isnt admin here

What's being admin got to do with anything? (I'm not commenting on whether SanGor is or is not crediar, I'm just confused as to the relevance of that particular statement).

Lol, plus it's hardly impossible to fake where you live. As of 30 seconds ago, I'm from Albania.

Edit: Sorry, wasn't trying to spam the thread. I'll remove the comment about charity.

 

[G0dLiKe]

What's being admin got to do with anything? (I'm not commenting on whether SanGor is or is not crediar, I'm just confused as to the relevance of that particular statement).

Sangor is admin here on gbatemp.

 

[tueidj]

Sangor is admin here on gbatemp.

No he's not, I am! Look at my user title!