Homebrew Clarification Thread - What is going on?

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Does anybody know who found which exploit. Or maybe it was a collaboration of all three. And maybe releasing the knowledge of how to achieve the exploits when they released it was maybe the safest time to release it. (Thinking Nintendo lawsuits here). also I note gateway have said they have been pursuing an exploit to allow full control off all systems upto and including 10.3 for and I quote "over a week".......​
 
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Does anybody know who found which exploit. Or maybe it was a collaboration of all three. And maybe releasing the knowledge of how to achieve the exploits when they released it was maybe the safest time to release it. (Thinking Nintendo lawsuits here). also I note gateway have said they have been pursuing an exploit to allow full control off all systems upto and including 10.3 for and I quote "over a week".......​
Smealum found snshax, derreck found memchunkhax2, and plutoo found ntrcardhax and arm9loaderhax.
More than likely gateway will just use memchunk2hax for their 10.3 support rather that using a whole new exploit.
 

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Well whoever did what hopefully the book will be a great read. N. Mind it'll be copyrighted........yohoho
 

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Does anybody know who found which exploit. Or maybe it was a collaboration of all three. And maybe releasing the knowledge of how to achieve the exploits when they released it was maybe the safest time to release it. (Thinking Nintendo lawsuits here). also I note gateway have said they have been pursuing an exploit to allow full control off all systems upto and including 10.3 for and I quote "over a week".......​
Well, releasing an exploit that doesn't DIRECTLY support piracy (i.e snshax and memchunkhax 2) is something nintendo can't really go after. All of the hax were disclosed to nintendo before they were released, but it seems the only way to get them to listen is to post it publicly so for arm9loaderhax and ntrcardhax I'm pretty sure the only reason they released them was to make nintendo do something about it... arm9loaderhax has the potential to brick a system with bad instuctions if the user doesn't have a NAND mod and a previous NAND backup, and ntrcardhax is, frankly, not feasible for someone without an expensive piece of hardware (like a gateway) and will most likely only be used by them and a few other manufacturers looking to make a quick buck... but really look at the FW range of memchunkhax and the other exploits, it was 4.x-9.2 which is a HUGE range... so, what they've done is:
1. Burn a rather rare arm11 kernel exploit
2. Burn what will probably be one of the only hax that needs hardware to exploit
3. Teach Nintendo how to properly check their encryption, or rather what to do after the decryption happens (read: actually checking the file is valid after decryption, though it was more a case of them not following their own usual standards regarding it)
4. Ensure that the piracy caused by it was contained to a small firmware range, 9.3-10.3
 

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Well whoever did what hopefully the book will be a great read. N. Mind it'll be copyrighted........yohoho
Was also thinking gateway might use red card for ntrcardhax since it might sell a few carts.....bringing out a brand new cart we'd be a big fail in my opinion...or they may be faced with the knowledge that a straight up date to there launcher may be better because of all the talented opposition....just a guess.....

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Well I hope they're not all sitting down to tea with Mr. Myamoto next week .....talking over jobsn contracts n who's turn is it to buy the coffee cremes this week.
 

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4. Ensure that the piracy caused by it was contained to a small firmware range, 9.3-10.3
The types of people who would update to 10.4 while knowing about full system control are the types of plebs Nintendo actually makes their money off of anyways (i.e. people with the same mindset of my sister.)
 
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The types of people who would update to 10.4 while knowing about full system control are the types of plebs Nintendo actually makes their money off of anyways (i.e. people with the same mindset of my sister.)
Well accidents happen, as well as people who update without thinking, or knowing, what is really out there. Then they see something while doing research about the system and come here to whine about just updating their 3ds, or not having/buying one on exploitable FW... At least that's what I see a lot of
 
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Well accidents happen, as well as people who update without thinking, or knowing, what is really out there. Then they see something while doing research about the system and come here to whine about just updating their 3ds, or not having/buying one on exploitable FW... At least that's what I see a lot of

The biggest annoyance for me is being unable to play multiplayer Smash Bros. I think I can forego that to wait for the ability to never have to worry again once I get access to EmuNAND :P
 

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I'm unsure if I should downgrade the first day possible but then loose my legit TBOI: Rebirth and I have to start Smash Bros also with a cryptofixed update or if I should waut and see if the Gateway exploid is full 10.3 support and not also downgrading...
 

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I'm unsure if I should downgrade the first day possible but then loose my legit TBOI: Rebirth and I have to start Smash Bros also with a cryptofixed update or if I should waut and see if the Gateway exploid is full 10.3 support and not also downgrading...

If the money isn't an issue, gateway may be an better option for you if losing Issac bothers you. I wouldn't recommend downgrading first day though, better to wait a day and let people with hardmods etc. test it out a bit.
 
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If the money isn't an issue, gateway may be an better option for you if losing Issac bothers you. I wouldn't recommend downgrading first day though, better to wait a day and let people with hardmods etc. test it out a bit.
@JustPingo is making a noob friendly downgrader for the exploit so i dont think we have t worry about too many bricks
 

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If the money isn't an issue, gateway may be an better option for you if losing Issac bothers you. I wouldn't recommend downgrading first day though, better to wait a day and let people with hardmods etc. test it out a bit.
I have my Gateway since 2014, because I also have a O3DS on 9.2 so the money isn't a problem. Thanks for the answer ! I will wait
 

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Well accidents happen
Whitch is why I'll never let anybody play on my 3DS besides me...:yay3ds:

as well as people who update without thinking, or knowing, what is really out there. Then they see something while doing research about the system and come here to whine about just updating their 3ds, or not having/buying one on exploitable FW...
Those are the exact plebs I was talking about, the types of people who get all bitchy and throw a fit about it like it's thier fucking right to have such an exploit.
 
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