Homebrew Clarification Thread - What is going on?

[motezazer]

Then I wonder how they did the GW emulation plugin ^^
I think that with a firmware update that should work.

Do you have their keys? ^^

 

[mathieulh]

Isn't the workaround the point of that part of the talk?

No, this hack is used to get other keys, it's early enough to get values required to generate 0x25 keyX for example (which would have been useful had it not already been leaked), it is also used as a way to gain kernel9 execution, it's more of an academic hack than a practical one, it was never meant to decrypt newer kernel9. As to the uses of getting early ARM9 code execution, I will let you take guesses about that.

 

[JustPingo]

No, this hack is used to get other keys, it's early enough to get values required to generate 0x25 keyX for example (which would have been useful had it not already been leaked), it is also used as a way to gain kernel9 execution, it's more of an academic hack than a practical one, it was never meant to decrypt newer kernel9. As to the uses of getting early ARM9 code execution, I will let you take guesses about that.

So arm9loaderhax isn't early enough to get the interesting keys, am I correct?

 

[motezazer]

So arm9loaderhax isn't early enough to get the interesting keys, am I correct?

You would need a bootromhax to be early enough on a N3DS FIRM.

 

[GalladeGuy]

this is better than your undertale songs:

I feel like I've heard that before, but I've never seen that video.

 

[mathieulh]

So arm9loaderhax isn't early enough to get the interesting keys, am I correct?

It depends on what you qualify as "interesting", you get more keys, just not the ones that allow 9.6+ emunand (which you would be interested in). As a reverse engineer, the more keys you have access to, the more content you can look into, the better.

 

[CeeDee]

Thank you based @smealum for downgrade sploits!

 

[Hyura]

I've installed Ironhax a long time ago, I'm not even sure which version of the hax I have.
I downloaded the ironhax pack from smea's github again and installed it again (using my old ironhax to access the installer). Is there any way to check if things are working?

My 3DS XL firmware is 10.1.

 

[DeslotlCL]

Can't wait to finally downgrade my 10.3 o3ds to be able to piracy! All what i'll say is to the developers: take all the time you need, thank you so much for your hard work!

 

[GalladeGuy]

I don't like piracy. -Smealum

Gives us emuNAND on latest firmware.

 

[Rosselman]

I don't like piracy. -Smealum

Gives us emuNAND on latest firmware.

Maybe it was his plan is to make the Nintendo engineers patch the exploit now, and leave no exploits for the 3DS end of life. Truly evil.

 

[damos1212]

So stuff like SNShax probably won't be out for a couple of days/weeks right?
Just asking so I don't destroy my f5 button ^^

 

[ChaosRipple]

I don't like piracy. -Smealum

Gives us emuNAND on latest firmware.

Well, it was a security conference so there was some flaw he had to talk about with the 3DS. He could have spoken about all the old flaws but chose to speak about the new flaws. Why? I don't think anyone knows. Not only did we gain information, Nintendo also has access to what they said. If Smealum honestly cares about piracy, then I can say he won't be releasing any code, compiled or not, for these vulnerabilities to be taken advantage of.

 

[Deleted-236924]

Then I wonder how they did the GW emulation plugin ^^
I think that with a firmware update that should work.

Wouldn't any flashcard that can be updated to change the header info work, then?
I'm (pretty) sure that flashcards updated to work on newer firmwares whenever they were blocked by changing which game they were spoofing as, so technically it should be possible to change that to anything, yeah?
Then nearly all flashcards died down as they eventually ran out of games that could have their header info exploited while the DSTwo could continually update and keep working while never having to change their Alex Rider header.

If I'm understanding this correctly we (or SC team) would have to code some kind of firmware update for their flashcard that would change its header to something that would trigger ntrcardhax when the 3DS reads it, yeah?

Probably a lot more hassle than it's worth just to gain ARM9 access on newer firmwares, when we can just downgrade. Also would it render the flashcard unuseable for anything other than starting up ntrcardhax?

 

[Xenon Hacks]

Wouldn't any flashcard that can be updated to change the header info work, then?
I'm (pretty) sure that flashcards updated to work on newer firmwares whenever they were blocked by changing which game they were spoofing as, so technically it should be possible to change that to anything, yeah?
Then nearly all flashcards died down as they eventually ran out of games that could have their header info exploited while the DSTwo could continually update and keep working while never having to change their Alex Rider header.

If I'm understanding this correctly we (or SC team) would have to code some kind of firmware update for their flashcard that would change its header to something that would trigger ntrcardhax when the 3DS reads it, yeah?

Probably a lot more hassle than it's worth just to gain ARM9 access on newer firmwares, when we can just downgrade. Also would it render the flashcard unuseable for anything other than starting up ntrcardhax?

Have a feeling Gateway will look into this.

 

[DutchyDutch]

So technically we have piracy on 9.9?? And O3DS?? YAYAYAY

 

[dankzegriefer]

When will we get memchunkhax2?
I needa downgrade on my O3DS because SNShax dun't work.

 

[Deleted User]

When will we get memchunkhax2?
I needa downgrade on my O3DS because SNShax dun't work.

Wait, SNShax is released??

 

[Lycan911]

When will we get memchunkhax2?
I needa downgrade on my O3DS because SNShax dun't work.

Soon™

 

[TuxSH]

*"Won't work"

And as I said if GW still wants to make money they will have to respond quickly.