Hacking cIOSX rev21: controller lag [FIXED!]

[Hielkenator]

Lacius, which usb-powered HDD is working for you ?
Because I begin to think like Etheboss (I'm also suspecting the RPM spin speed). My only working HDD is not USB powered; the 3 USB powered drives I tried (Seagate Expansion 500GB, Seagate FreeAgent Go 500GB and WD My Passport 250GB) have the lag issue. And if you look at the first page, most of the drives that are listed as lag-free are 3.5inch desktop drives and not 2.5inch portable drives.

Good point, I think the same.

Now I use Hermes cios as the standard cios. Very stable I think. Every game works and loads super fast.
The new USB loader gx 2.0 can be set to load with base 57 (slot 224 in my case ). Exception is MH tri Needs base 37/38 .Works perfect with my Packard Bell Silver 640 Gb USB powered Ext. HD.
Waninkoko, need to revise his CiosX

So Hermes 5.1 base 57 inslot 224 is my standard for loading usb games. It's the best for all drives.

 

[BBogey]

Has anybody considered this lag problem has to do something with HDD's with NO external power..?

A friend of mine tried a lot of different drives and it seems that the drives with NO external power are more unreliable.

The reverse is true for me.

And when we are talking about usb powered those has normally laptop HDDs (2.5").

If you have or have not this controller lag problem, can you check also your Load_Cycle_Count? You can check the smart data with smartmontools or with http://hddscan.com/ (Windows). With these tools you can set also acoustic settings, but I didn't notice any improvement. I think HD Tune shows data also, but I don't know if it's compatible with USB drives.

I noticed that when after heads are parked, i.e after 5 seconds idling, there's about 0.3 seconds lag. For example reading smart data takes 1.4 seconds, and when trying again after 5 seconds, it takes 1.7 seconds.
If I set hdparm -B 254, the lag disappers, and clicking of the HDD stops as well.

 

[netspy]

Ok, here are the S.M.A.R.T datas for the drives I still own (I've sent the Seagate Expansion 500GB back).

Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 500 GB USB 2.0 Desktop (NO LAG)
-> the new one I'm using (I've used it before to backup datas from my computer)
Hard Disk Model ID : WDC WD5000AAJB-00UHA0
Rotational Speed : 7200 RPM
Start/Stop Count : E5 (229)
Load/Unload Cycle Count : E5 (229)
Power on time : 12 days, 6 hours


Western Digital My Passport 250 GB (LAG)
-> the one I've always used until now with my Wii
Hard Disk Model ID : WDC WD2500BEVS-22VAT0
Rotational Speed : 5400 RPM
Start/Stop Count : 567 (1383)
Load/Unload Cycle Count : 703B (28731)
Power on time : 18 days, 8 hours

Seagate FreeAgent Go 500GB (LAG)
-> brand new one, almost never used
Hard Disk Model ID : ST9500325AS
Rotational Speed : 5400 RPM
Start/Stop Count : 12 (18)
Load/Unload Cycle Count : B6 (182)
Power on time : 0 day, 1 hour

 

[ZeroResist]

Been watching this topic for a while, so I thought I'd post my information as well.

Seagate Portable Expansion 250GB - WBFS Format

Under ciosx rev 21 - IOS249[56], cursor/controller lag appears at set intervals.
Using cios rev19 - IOS249[57], the lag disappears, but naturally things don't load at the same speed as base 56.
Using any Hermes IOS (222[38], 223[37], 224[57]), results in normal performance.


I had actually been using rev 21 base 56 for quite some time, and only discovered the lag when I played Trauma Team.
I had then realized that after hitting the home button while playing and going to the home menu, that the cursor would still continue to lag when there was HDD activity.
This is how I would check to see if using a particular IOS would cause the lag.

I suspect that it might be my HDD, unfortunately.
Maybe only certain drives can handle base 56.

 

[davebaol]

I would reverse your last sentence: base 56 can handle only certain drives LOL

Anyway I believe Waninkoko is too busy with ps3 to remove its fucking watchdog from base 56 or expose a api for loaders to make it optional.

 

[ZeroResist]

I would reverse your last sentence: base 56 can handle only certain drives LOL

Anyway I believe Waninkoko is too busy with ps3 to remove its fucking watchdog from base 56 or expose a api for loaders to make it optional.

I see. A question, though.

I'm sure plenty of people have installed rev 21 and have experienced no problems with it (Or chose to stay on rev 19 or lower),
but is there a possibility that my drive has begun to lag as a result of something I did?

Maybe something with DOP-Mii, or that my HDD is WBFS format, or maybe the drive needs a format, etc...

I apologize for my ignorance, but I just find this lag so vexing.

 

[netspy]

XFlak had a really great idea !
Just have a look HERE.

I created a cIOS249v21[56] with EHCI module from v19 (using XFlak's instructions, ModMii and Wii.cs Tools).
- "Warioland : Shake It" boots correctly and the lag disappeared.
- Rock Band 3 boots correctly, and I can play keyboard and guitar without lag, even with DLC songs stored on SDHC card.

Amazing ! Of course, more tests are still needed, but that looks promising.


@ZeroResist : read the previous pages of this topic, and you'll be sure it's not your fault, but an incompatibility between your HDD and cIOSX rev20+.

 

[davebaol]

cios249[56]-v21 modified with ehci module from rev19 works perfectly for me!!!!

And some vip users on the italian forum I moderate are all reporting positive feedback.

 

[nando]

too bad i can't run wii.cs tools on my mac.

 

[davebaol]

Here it is: [link removed by me LOL]

Install at your own risk!!!!
I'm joking, you can't brick with that.

 

[nando]

hmmm...

, ok i'll get in your van right after work...

are you allowed to shared that here?

 

[davebaol]

Umm... really don't know.
If it's not allowed please moderators remove the link and don't kill me LOL

 

[Yuan]

Umm... really don't know.
If it's not allowed please moderators remove the link and don't kill me LOL

It is not. Just explain how people can patch it themselves.

 

[davebaol]

ok sorry, link removed.

netspy has explained already how to get required info and tools.

 

[XFlak]

If enough ppl want to test this, I can build a special test version of ModMii capable of building the aforementioned cIOS, so that people can easily build the wad and test it without having to get their hands dirty... what do u guys think?

 

[nando]

i think that would be useful specially for some of us that don't have PCs.

i myself grabbed david's share before questioning whether it was allowed (share first ask questions later

). so i'm set.

 

[Yuan]

Tested XFlak's mod here and seems everything is working fine

Even booting it with wiiflow without problems. Smash stopped the pause bug, cooking mama is recognizing inputs right etc.

Thanks XFlak!

 

[Lacius]

I can also confirm that the lag problems are gone in Animal Crossing: City Folk. Thank you, XFlak.

 

[ZeroResist]

If enough ppl want to test this, I can build a special test version of ModMii capable of building the aforementioned cIOS, so that people can easily build the wad and test it without having to get their hands dirty... what do u guys think?

Firstly, I can't thank you enough for your time and input towards this problem.

I personally would love it if ModMii was able to build that cIOS.


EDIT: Built it, and nothing but tears of joy. No lag and base 56 speed.

Absolutely wonderful. Thank you again, XFlak.

 

[netspy]

If enough ppl want to test this, I can build a special test version of ModMii capable of building the aforementioned cIOS, so that people can easily build the wad and test it without having to get their hands dirty... what do u guys think?

Thanks so much for your awesome tip. Of course, I believe that a version of ModMii able to build this mixed cIOS would be more than welcomed, so many people have been annoyed by this lag issue !