Hacking BootMii

[coolbho3000]

since it said that they have full control over the wii, does that mean the laser too?

I believe the DVD drive's firmware controls this. But you need to clarify on what you mean by "laser."

 

[Slowking]

He means that he has no idea what he's talking about and didn't bother to read up on it...

 

[pelago]

He's probably wondering if BootMii will help obtain 6x DVD speed reading for copied games without a drive chip, which it won't.

 

[kedest]

He's probably wondering if BootMii will help obtain 6x DVD speed reading for copied games without a drive chip, which it won't.

Because they don't want to get involved with piracy or because it is really impossible? The article claims this will get full control of the Wii hardware.

 

[WiiCrazy]

He's probably wondering if BootMii will help obtain 6x DVD speed reading for copied games without a drive chip, which it won't.

Because they don't want to get involved with piracy of because it is really impossible? The article claims this will get full control of the Wii hardware.

Yeah full hardware yet with it's limitations...
for example sd slot of the wii is not compatible with mmc cards, this app can't make it support
wii drive has firmware that caps the speed for copy dvds, this app can't change that... if it's hackable then that hack can probably be implemented as custom ios too...

 

[FGOD]

Actually that's not true. The drive's firmware limits it because of the dvd video thing. But with full control of starlet and the wii hardware it might be possible to let copied games run at normal mode

 

[Jacobeian]

Actually that's not true. The drive's firmware limits it because of the dvd video thing. But with full control of starlet and the wii hardware it might be possible to let copied games run at normal mode

and speculation starts again

you are wrong, the correct sentence is : the dvd video mode limit is because of the drive firmware

and bootMii can do nothing onthe drive firmware, it only allow you to bypass "low-level" Wii boot process and gives you the ability to run your own code on Starlet but obviously access ONLY what Starlet can control

 

[FGOD]

i know, that's why i said the problem is at the video mode which is being used now. i don't speculate. i tell what is going on. and as marcan said on hackmii it is possible to make backups run on the disc channel and with more speed but then they should use another way instead of the video mode which is limited at 3X.

it is about making it possible to play backups in normal mode like i said then it would be at 6x instead of 3x cause then the firmware won't be limiting it to 3x

 

[Jacobeian]

i know, that's why i said the problem is at the video mode which is being used now. i don't speculate. i tell what is going on. and as marcan said on hackmii it is possible to make backups run on the disc channel and with more speed but then they should use another way instead of the video mode which is limited at 3X.

it is about making it possible to play backups in normal mode like i said then it would be at 6x instead of 3x cause then the firmware won't be limiting it to 3x

the fact it could be possible to run backup fom the system menu (ie modified disc channel) does NOT mean it could be possible to play backup in "Wii DVD" mode
remember that in this mode, the firmware will reject any uunrecognized disc

and seriously, it as already been explained that the 3X limit should not be an issue for most games, bugs come from the loader, not from the 3x limit

 

[denzil]

it is about making it possible to play backups in normal mode

Which has absolutely zilch to do with BootMii. BootMii is not a "more direct" way to run homebrew, it does not allow any more functions than those which are possible with regularly started homebrew. The point of BootMii is when it allows to run homebrew, and that is before the system menu starts. Which allows a) homebrew to repair things that make the system menu go apeshit, and b) to start homebrew directly and saving the time to load and go through the system menu.

But, hey, facts did never stop you from speculating, right?

 

[FGOD]

the fact is that there is more access to the hardware with bootmii but nvm guys, i'm not to one to start a fight like most threads like this end up.

 

[denzil]

the fact is that there is more access to the hardware with bootmii but nvm

By all means, explain how BootMii allows "more access" to the hardware. Please.

 

[djdynamite123]

guess its one of them threads again which always gets smuthered in posts about the same thing, more easier just to read from the original site. You get the info required there.

 

[noobwarrior7]

I was wondering, will BootMii allow us to get a "True" NAND dump?

 

[Jacobeian]

the fact is that there is more access to the hardware with bootmii but nvm guys, i'm not to one to start a fight like most threads like this end up.

no, bootMii allows you to run software BEFORE IOS has been loaded on starlet, system menu loaded on PowerPC, etc...
this is what means "givng full access to the Wii", that mean you can get ride of all IOS restrictions

of course, this can already done via IOS patching, BootMii is just a more practical way to do it
but still, former hardware restrictions remain

think of it as if you have two functionnal CPU ready to run any code you want to throw at it, less than 1s after you hitted the pwoer button

QUOTEI was wondering, will BootMii allow us to get a "True" NAND dump?

what is the problem with current NAND dumps ?

 

[FGOD]

the fact is that there is more access to the hardware with bootmii but nvm

By all means, explain how BootMii allows "more access" to the hardware. Please.

i'm not going to flame so let it rest, if you want information go and read the article on bootmii... you'll see that bootmii platform gives more access to starlet and other hardware/software

 

[denzil]

if you want information go and read the article on bootmii...
Follow your own advice, I dare you.

you'll see that bootmii platform gives more access to starlet
That much is sort of true. It allows to feed a blank starlet rather than hollowing it out from the inside. However, BootMii does not allow Starlet to do anything different than, Jacobeian already said it, is already possible today by patching or amending an existing IOS.

QUOTE

and other hardware/software

Define "other hardware", please. All hardware access that is of any concern to this discussion goes through Starlet, and BootMii doesn't change anything about any of its possibilities or limitations.

You seem to be under the impression that current limits are imposed by a piece of software, the IOS. That is not the case anymore ever since it is possible to patch it and extend it with modules. Current limitations are imposed by hardware or peripheral firmware the Wii's system does not have access to.

 

[linkinworm]

why are people on gbatemp trying to give advice about stuff they have no idea works, or what it can actualy do in the future?

 

[Richy Freeway]

why are people on gbatemp trying to give advice about stuff they have no idea works, or what it can actualy do in the future?

You must be new here.

 

[noobwarrior7]

I was wondering, will BootMii allow us to get a "True" NAND dump?

what is the problem with current NAND dumps ?

current NAND dumpers, as explained by bushing, are trying to dump while writing to the NAND is taking place.
Therefore, every dump done through software so far is actually somewhat corrupt, at least in the sector where data was being written.
the only way demoed to do a true dump was by causing a special crash and doing some other stuff that is beyond me.

I also thought this might be the reason why I was getting an error code -11 while trying to use yawnd...
as -12 is bad blcoks, I was unable to find out what -11 was....NAND_Dumper displayed an error at the same point,
but went by so fast I couldn't read it, and continued to dump instead of failing and restarting the wii as yawnd does.

It is my hope, but not an assumption I'm ready to make, that BootMii will allow us to use external (SD) software to do a static NAND dump.

so....now that I've clarified....I await some kind of answer/explanation.