Hardware Baseless Nintendo NX speculation thread

[KingVamp]

I meant something more main stream and accessible. Btw, base on the past, the 3ds in backwards compatibility will be hacked soon after the handheld release.

 

[nintendarium]

gbatemp lost member because community is childish

 

[gameboy]

generally takes about 2-3 years for their handheld to get cracked. But thats why theyre going the online only route. Security will destroy it like what the vita did to itself

 

[nintendarium]

gbatemp lost member because community is childish

 

[gameboy]

theres something that exists called gateway

 

[Yil]

Nintendo nx will not do vr for the next 2 years if at all. They always arrive when the party is over. Nintendo usually invest in tech that no one else has.

Mario Maker is already a franchise killer, it killed 2d mario. They can no longer return to 2d mario or charge $60 for 2d mario because of mario maker.

3rd party support? what 3rd party?
yearly assassins creed, madden, nba 2k, mlb, farcry, same old same old. what else? This generation of gaming is the slowest and least creative, the graphics are nice tho, and most of the smaller teams went down the hole when they tried to develop for ps3.

So sony is directly responsible for the current crappy business model that ruin the industry.
Yet again unreal and cry fail to mimic mario galaxy's complex physics.

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theres something that exists called gateway

Are you refering to 3ds or communication technology.

 

[gameboy]

gateway was a reference for old games being played on the new unannounced maybe nonexistent upcoming handheld. I read that developing for sony ps3 and vita was so hard it screwed a lot of people over who couldnt handle it or were too ambitious and the system just coulndt handle it.

 

[KingVamp]

??
you want a open source VR head set ?
what is more accessible than having the drawings and the schematics ?
a lego-alike or Ikea-alike set you can order from amazon?

about 3ds why you are so sure there will be backwards compatibility?

Let me put it this way, I hope a big company makes a open source headset.


Considering there is no reason to change media and I doubt they'll go all digital, why wouldn't they have backwards compatibility?

 

[nintendarium]

gbatemp lost member because community is childish

 

[Yil]

gateway was a reference for old games being played on the new unannounced maybe nonexistent upcoming handheld. I read that developing for sony ps3 and vita was so hard it screwed a lot of people over who couldnt handle it or were too ambitious and the system just coulndt handle it.

Vita was hard? The hardware is indentical to those of an older iPhone/ mid range arm chip, and fully competible instructions.
PS3 might be the cause of all the yearly entries. And ps3's cpu was still good espcially if paired with modern manufactoring(7 nm?)

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ah ok.
but let me either put another way:
it needs more than one company.
it needs more like a Bluray alliance or HDMI alliance.
then you have a common set of rules all comapnies agree to follow.
Actually is not something Sony,Nintendo and Microsft, Google and Apple could sit down and decide, not to mention movie companies...

on 3ds that would be a nice fan service, but imo is more they want put more efforts on new features , for example they could really follow that patent and develop a new cartridge that can be used on home console too ... also ds and 3ds games could be sold on digital only, like the vWii they could make a vDS and a v3DS ...

Anyway i got 2 batteries for ds and 3ds in case the original ones fail, i think they will last long ...

I'm pretty sure having the same architecture makes everything relatively easy. Actually modern gpu slot is not as wide as snes cartridges, especially mxm and other custom connectors.
Is there really a fee for supporting last gen video output?

 

[gameboy]

Nintendo is trying to cater to the Uk and the USA. If there stuff cant support simple things like netflix, its done. If it cant stream simple html5, its done. If it cant do youtube its done.The games have never been the issue with Nintendo consoles, its always the media options.

Never has a N console been able to:
-watch dvds
-watch blu rays discs
-stream netflix or other apps properly
-stream youtube properly
-stream any sort of music file from usb
-stream any sort of video file from usb
-view any type of picture file on usb
-more stuff than this

THAT ALONE MERITS A HUGE LOSS ON AMOUNT BASE VALUE OF A CONSOLE.
example. NX announced base value = $500 (guess)
no web= -$50
no media apps= -$50
no dvd= -$20
no bulray= -$40
no ultra 4k bluray= -$80
no usb media playback= -$50
no controller= -$100
no second controller= $-20
no free game/subscription bundle= -$50
total of true value you should pay for it= $40 LOL i wish

Im sure itll be able to output in 4k but i bet it wont be able to play ultra4k bluray discs.

So what dictates a home console now? IT HAS TO ALSO HAVE SUPREME MEDIA OPTIONS IF ITS GONNA SIT IN THE LIVING ROOM!!!... Even xb1 allows mkv and flv. And thats the bottom line cuz stone cold said so!

 

[Yil]

Nintendo is trying to cater to the Uk and the USA. If there stuff cant support simple things like netflix, its done. If it cant stream simple html5, its done. If it cant do youtube its done.The games have never been the issue with Nintendo consoles, its always the media options.

Never has a N console been able to:
-watch dvds
-watch blu rays discs
-stream netflix or other apps properly
-stream youtube properly
-stream any sort of music file from usb
-stream any sort of video file from usb
-view any type of picture file on usb
-more stuff than this

THAT ALONE MERITS A HUGE LOSS ON AMOUNT BASE VALUE OF A CONSOLE.
example. NX announced base value = $500 (guess)
no web= -$50
no media apps= -$50
no dvd= -$20
no bulray= -$40
no ultra 4k bluray= -$80
no usb media playback= -$50
no controller= -$100
no second controller= $-20
no free game/subscription bundle= -$50
total of true value you should pay for it= $40 LOL i wish

Im sure itll be able to output in 4k but i bet it wont be able to play ultra4k bluray discs.

So what dictates a home console now? IT HAS TO ALSO HAVE SUPREME MEDIA OPTIONS IF ITS GONNA SIT IN THE LIVING ROOM!!!... Even xb1 allows mkv and flv. And thats the bottom line cuz stone cold said so!

Chill out. You never had those on older consoles anyway, or does it? Or Nintendo simply want to avoid another CD-I.
Excuuuse me, prinncess

 

[grossaffe]

Nintendo is trying to cater to the Uk and the USA. If there stuff cant support simple things like netflix, its done. If it cant stream simple html5, its done. If it cant do youtube its done.The games have never been the issue with Nintendo consoles, its always the media options.

Never has a N console been able to:
-watch dvds
-watch blu rays discs
-stream netflix or other apps properly
-stream youtube properly
-stream any sort of music file from usb
-stream any sort of video file from usb
-view any type of picture file on usb
-more stuff than this

THAT ALONE MERITS A HUGE LOSS ON AMOUNT BASE VALUE OF A CONSOLE.
example. NX announced base value = $500 (guess)
no web= -$50
no media apps= -$50
no dvd= -$20
no bulray= -$40
no ultra 4k bluray= -$80
no usb media playback= -$50
no controller= -$100
no second controller= $-20
no free game/subscription bundle= -$50
total of true value you should pay for it= $40 LOL i wish

Im sure itll be able to output in 4k but i bet it wont be able to play ultra4k bluray discs.

So what dictates a home console now? IT HAS TO ALSO HAVE SUPREME MEDIA OPTIONS IF ITS GONNA SIT IN THE LIVING ROOM!!!... Even xb1 allows mkv and flv. And thats the bottom line cuz stone cold said so!

It's a ****ing game console. You can do all of that stuff on a billion other devices already in the house.

 

[gameboy]

you cant really say im wrong tho except for the price thing.

$200 for game console plus $50 for 500gb = $250 honest pricing. (shouldnt be able to charge more for no media)

Imagine if you already have an xbox1. The thing is bigger than an 80s vcr AND it comes with a power brick and camera. It would look like a trainwreck to put another console next to it that only does 'not as good as xbox' games.

 

[grossaffe]

you cant really say im wrong tho except for the price thing.

$200 for game console plus $50 for 500gb = $250 honest pricing. (shouldnt be able to charge more for no media)

Or maybe you don't need a 500 GB HDD for your console. Or maybe you already have a HDD to use with your console. Or maybe you want a 1TB HDD for your console and you don't have to pay the extra $50 that including a 500GB HDD would come with only for you to pull it out and have to pay even more for the larger HDD that suits your needs.

 

[gameboy]

Or maybe i just this product to be good, thats all anybody wants from nintendo. Gimme on-par console standards and a honest price that can compete with its market and games that actually try to go above and beyond.

Im gonna assume it will be $450 with zelda/luigi mansion as it first party debut game(based on rumor) and it will come with a free digital download of one of the rumored wiiu port if you get both games. its what they did with the $150 pikachu 3dsXL to get things going for that system. crappy year of luigi bullcrap thats still going...

 

[EarlAB]

LET IT GO! LET IT GOOO!!! WE CAN'T WAIT ANY MOREEEE!!! NINTY PLEASE!

 

[nintendarium]

gbatemp lost member because community is childish

 

[Yil]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51658...e-rumored-use-14nm-polaris-gpu-amd/index.html
If this is true, nx will use gcn 4.0 and possibly zen, and polaris 11 should have 2.5 teraflop single precision(fp32)
And they run at 50w and come equiped with gddr5x, which double the bandwidth.
That was rather powerful, but only 480x will be able to run vr.

 

[gameboy]

nintendo wont venture into vr.

what i meant by the example of the price model was that the consumer never pays for the hard drive but the company charges them to add one in. A good example is the ps3, the prices varied based on how big a hard drive was wanted later in its cycle.

my fake example how a company probably determines charge price

PS3 2006
game system $200
blu ray player $150
60 gb hard drive $100
multi media support $50
extras fanboys asked for $50
just cuz sonys greed $50

final price = $600

NX 2016----------------Fan NX system
game system $200------game sysem $200
no 4k bluray $0---------with 4k bluray $100
no hard drive $0--------with 500gb hdd $50
no media $0------------with meda support $50
no fanboy extras $0-----with extra $50
nintendos greed $300----with honest greed $50

final price = $500-------reasonable final price = $500

and so you see that nintendo should reasonably charge only $200 for a core game system, and if they decide to add an internal hdd theyll probably charge money making the systems reasonable charge price of $250