Hacking bad news from yasu

[SkH]

So... everyone detached from Japan suffers cause you won't get off your high-horse SkH?

You're fucking kidding, right? Not that I'm not grateful of your work, but it's HIS software and he owns the intellectual property, he can do whatever he wants with his software. So bugger off already you twit.

Not only that, I find it so disrespectful for everyone's bashing against yasu; he's done way more for the DS scene that any of you.

And what's about Yasu's High-Horse, hah, he's a TWIT!

And then why do he need to be this arrogant, huh?

 

[Grimalkin]

He can have his high-horse cause he developed the software.

He can be a twit if he wants to, because he gets e-penis for developing software for everyone to use.

When you develop something that everyone can use, then you can be the biggest twit ever -- till then, stfu.

 

[SkH]

He can have his high-horse cause he developed the software.

He can be a twit if he wants to, because he gets e-penis for developing software for everyone to use.

When you develop something that everyone can use, then you can be the biggest twit ever -- till then, stfu.

He's such a .....

And I'll crack his software and I'll get the BIG Downloads so... that's how it's done.

 

[Sephi]

skH, stop the big talk and delete your uploads already...

 

[SkH]

skH, stop the big talk and delete your uploads already...

But most of the people including me DON'T WANT TO DELETE the files!!

 

[Sephi]

I thought the only thing you did was edit the language XMLs....

can't you just upload those instead?

 

[SkH]

I thought the only thing you did was edit the language XMLs....

can't you just upload those instead?

I'm not quite... I translated the EXE file, the 0.4 wich had jsut Japanese language inside it.

And I DIDN'T REMOEVD THE Yasu software text, and I INCLUDED it in my Thread too!! (by Yasu Software)

That's the thanks, Yasu?!

 

[Sephi]

he says not to redistribute his software. you should acknowledge that.

 

[MaHe]

SKH, it's his software and he can do whatever he damns wants, as long as it's free.
Maybe you don't agree with him (and I can understand that perfectly), but it's really just his own business what he does with his own work.

EDIT: Just saw the previous page, you're way to arrogant. He should be grateful for your translations? Why? Sure, it made a lot of Westerners use his applications, but according to his actions, he doesn't want that (for whatever reason).

 

[Sinkhead]

I am removing them now, please can somebody tell Yasu? I will also remove them if I see them again. The files are his property and it is therefore illegal for us to distribute them, it's pretty much the same as us hosting ROMs, but Yasu doesn't make profit whereas Nintendo would. We are still doing illegal things by hosting his files though.

Oops, I presumed they were in our download centre or something... Anyway, I can't see why Yasu is so angry... All SkH has done are good things...

 

[Sephi]

edit2: deleted anyways.

 

[DarkSpace]

So wait I"m confused, he doesn't want the downloads, and he doesn't want anyone to translate his work. I understand that, at least the first part, but the second part is where it's confusing. Why wouldn't you want anyone to translate. The point is that it's a translation, it's not like he's taking your work and posting it as his own. He's giving you credit and you're becoming renown. Basically you don't want popularity and you want to exclude others besides your people from getting your information. Sure, go ahead, but I have to say it's pretty selfish.

 

[Smiths]

Used to get into this argument with PSPUpdates when I would request them not to host files I worked on. They had the same irrational stance of Skh (re: MORE PEOPLE DOWNLOAD IT THIS WAY)

You know, for some of us programming out there it isn't about how many people are downloading it. He had specific requests relating to his files, you could have edited them and e-mailed them to him (which is what most people who modify sources/resource edit EXE files do), and let him do what he wanted with it.

No where was it your business to take it upon yourself to modify and "release" the files.

No one is crapping on what you did and how you "spread the word", but it was not your place to do as you pleased... and yasu made it clear from the get-go he did not was redistribution.

【再 配 布】 基本的に禁止。ホームページを紹介して下さい。 = Not for redistribution, link to the homepage instead

That should have been your first clue that you should have contacted him regardless of your intent to "spread the word".

In fact, I don't even see links to yasu's site in any of your "release" threads. Were you just looking to piss him off?

fyi: PSPU refused to stop hosting my files and refused to acknowledge my requests, so future releases from me had hardcoded screens and messages cursing them out for it. Downloads ceased being posted on their site after that happened, wouldn't ya know?

 

[DarkSpace]

Funny thing, I think SKH might just know enough to remove anything he didn't want. Anyway on a realistic note it's technically his work with your adaption, so you m au have to delete it. I still support SKH though. Also SMith did you get credit in your work?

 

[Armadillo]

Meh , don't even use any of this software , but there seems to be a hell of a lot of hypocrites in this thread. Yasu didn't want them redistributed , their his files etc , you should respect that etc. All the while you sit their with your flash cards downloading roms etc , I'm sure the companies don't want you downloading and distributing their games , do you respect that? , no.

 

[oldskoolnesgamer]

Meh , don't even use any of this software , but there seems to be a hell of a lot of hypocrites in this thread. Yasu didn't want them redistributed , their his files etc , you should respect that etc. All the while you sit their with your flash cards downloading roms etc , I'm sure the companies don't want you downloading and distributing their games , do you respect that? , no.

Agreed.

The condensed version seems to be:
1) Yasu creates a useful program
2) Yasu's program is in Japanese
3) Yasu says he doesn't care if it's useless to English-speaking users
4) SkH translates program into English anyway, making it usable for English-speakers
5) SkH puts links to the translated program on his site
6) Yasu gets mad that SkH is hosting the translated version of his program
7) Yasu stops allowing downloads of the updated software for non-Japan IPs
8) Yasu demands SkH remove download links & says support will not be restored until it happens
9) GBATemp forum users get all up in arms that they can't download the updated software
10) GBATemp forum users want SkH to remove the files so they can download the software again
11) Yasu's program is in Japanese and without translation, is useless to GBATemp forum users
12) Yasu says he doesn't care about non-Japan users
13) Yasu probably won't make translated versions of updated software, even if SkH removes his hosted files

Sounds pretty circular to me.

 

[Grimalkin]

Umm... Yasu translates some of his programs.

 

[Seina]

I wonder if YSMenu, if he's planning to make another one, will be in nihongo only and what parts will be affected. It probably won't matter much if you know your way around the menu.

 

[Sephi]

I don't think he would remove the ini part for what text appears and for settings, probably just make it so only Japanese ip's can download

 

[Smiths]

Meh , don't even use any of this software , but there seems to be a hell of a lot of hypocrites in this thread. Yasu didn't want them redistributed , their his files etc , you should respect that etc. All the while you sit their with your flash cards downloading roms etc , I'm sure the companies don't want you downloading and distributing their games , do you respect that? , no.

Of course that's not respected, it's not the 'hypocritical' part we're talking about.

The hypocritical part is the person/people saying "we don't have to respect the author's direct wishes because we do what we want".
If Nintendo contacted GBATemp because they were hosting their intellectual property without permission (can be anything, ROMs or just segments of code), I don't think GBATemp's staff would be going "screw them, we have it and we do what we want because we provide people with it!"

Again, this is not an issue of yasu saying "he modified my programs, I'm stopping developing".

He's only pissed off with the uploading and distributing modified binaries without permission. Hell, like I said, he didn't even include a link to the original homepage.

That's simply "credit whoring".

I am consistently modifying the AceKard RPG's source code. There are groups of developers working together on RPG projects. Should we see some code from someone else's programs, we contact the author regarding using/distributing the code (or programs featuring the code).
this is even evident from yasu's site, where Normmatt made sure to contact him regarding the R4 decrypting routines currently in the RPG binaries.

Don't miss the boat on what this "issue" is about at its core: a program was modified (seems okay for personal use according to yasu's files), but was redistributed in violation of both the author's terms: 1) Do not redistribute and 2) Link to the official homepage.

It could all have been avoided should SkH have contacted yasu in private (his e-mail is published and his English is up to snuff) saying what he was doing and seen what the author wanted done. for all we know, it could have been hosted on yasu's official site, SkH could publish his threads here at GBATemp with links to yasu's site, and nothing would have happened.

Hell, my FAS1 utility was basically based off of much of the source to tftpds, and after making it ready for a release state I made sure to contact the original author and express how I basically "raped" his code and "gutted" it to the point of being a shell of its former self. He was fine with me releasing it so long as his program was mentioned. You'll notice the readme still contains links to his posts on GBADev.

And again, in response to the originally quoted text: Yes, we play ROMs. Yes, we know Nintendo isn't being respected because we do so. Should Nintendo announce they are no longer making games because of this, would we piss and moan that they are in the wrong?

DarkSpace: They stopped hosting my files after that, simply because they were scared of what could be inside of them. I also stopped developing for the PSP due to that site in general... too much $$$ motivations from them. I only returned to a little PSP-Dev when POPStation debuted in the PSP firmware, in just figuring out how it worked and making a simply frontend for creating PSX Eboots. I stopped with that once my GUI reached a level I was happy with, and custom PSP firmware was released with a command-line builder that did a lot of the hacks the frontends were doing.