Hacking Backup Launcher by Wiigator

[goku1980]

thanx taz almost forgot

 

[digitydogs]

oh no what if he finds this thread so funny now that he intentionally delays the release for more laughs... we better get serious guys, hehe

 

[alphax13]

I think wiigator is enjoying the craziness, hes been on thread for quite awhile now.
And no fair saying i can join when id have to take a plane or boat ride to join you. Teasing about cmoke is against the 420 rules of ettiquette!

He probably thinks were fucking stupid.

 

[Cyberxion]

That said, I respect his decision. I think it speaks well to his character that he's not jumping at the chance for a little internet fame by releasing a product that would make stupid people cry.

he already has fame from that autoloader option in the beta - thats just class - big respect for that alone in my opinion

Well f*ck me running. The more you know, right?

But yeah, even if he hadn't done that, he'd definitely have my respect for not just tossing an unfinished product out there just to say he beat Wiigator to the punch. The dude seems like a stand-up guy.

 

[nicksasa]

well some guys here are stupid .....

im just kidding XD

 

[ShadowXP]

Time to get a real hobby guys.

 

[Forsaekn]

so games will be reading at 6x ? cause it uses the wii disc channel
the di module is what is actually limited to 3x. If the original DI commands were kept (which could only be used on legitimate pressed discs btw), then retail games could read at 6x. the di module in cIOS works some *magic* and makes changes to these functions to make use of the dvd-rom functions left in the wii during development, which (with some wanin/wiigator voodoo)allow nonpressed (backups) to run. These functions are limited to 3x by a hardware register for the dvd drive, and is related to Starlet.

Long story short, as long as this register is unchanged, and cIOS is used, games will only read at 3x (but wiigator does some great cacheing and it feels like 6x anyways). Also to clear something up, wiigator's launcher is not launched when you run a game from the disc channel...the wii is using the apploader it was designed with (Essentially, wiigator's backup launcher tried to simulate the launching of a game as closely as possble, but of course, its not perfect and there are bugs...launching directly from the menu uses the wii's game launching code, which is perfect). You dont need the launcher anymore, but you can install it and use it to Force videomodes for certain import games, etc. I know im holding on to it.

QUOTE(goku1980 @ Nov 13 2008, 05:04 PM) so a true cutom firmware just woundering then would that make hbc useless or would we still need it to run other hb?

Possibly down the line (far far in the future) when I get more efficient at visually modifying the menu, I may implement a homebrew loading menu similar to that of the HBC, accessible right from the main channel page (probly a tab or something). Its on the list.

 

[madtamski]

I think wiigator is enjoying the craziness, hes been on thread for quite awhile now.
And no fair saying i can join when id have to take a plane or boat ride to join you. Teasing about cmoke is against the 420 rules of ettiquette!

He probably thinks were fucking stupid.

lmao...now that was the first time I lol'd

Cheers for that!

 

[alphax13]

I think wiigator is enjoying the craziness, hes been on thread for quite awhile now.
And no fair saying i can join when id have to take a plane or boat ride to join you. Teasing about cmoke is against the 420 rules of ettiquette!

He probably thinks were fucking stupid.

lmao...now that was the first time I lol'd

Cheers for that!

Your welcumed...

 

[goku1980]

sounds like u took a lot of time with this ill test when ur ready 4 a release i have got a ntsc usa wii

 

[deshwasi]

@Forsaekn, very interesting. may i ask what was this breakthrough that enabled you to use the Wii app to load backups as well as originals? i am sure WiiGator would have loved to do it the same way as it seems to be the best possible loader (well, maybe not best, but Nintendo built)

 

[alphax13]

WIIGATOR you been on the board 4ever.... Can you post an update or comment or anything?

 

[agimann]

gamma is (hopefully) out tomorrow
nite-night z.zzzzz.zzz

 

[nicksasa]

i think i have an idea for you forsaekn ... with your csm if you start a backup from the disc channel that if you hold B or somthing like that that it launches wiigator 0.3 gamma (when its released) but the dol must liken on the sd in /csm/gamma.dol so that you could maximum compability

 

[djtaz]

WIIGATOR you been on the board 4ever.... Can you post an update or comment or anything?

he is more than likely writing a big long thread ..... about his life in thailand

 

[scizo]

he fell asleep after playing mass games that we are waiting for them to work and is prolly laughing in his sleep

 

[nicksasa]

ah er zitten hier toch nog belgen

ya his likly fall into sleep or he is writing a loooooooong speech foor gamma

 

[alphax13]

he fell asleep after playing mass games that we are waiting for them to work and is prolly laughing in his sleep

prob-a`fucking-ly....
this is getting retarded....
I think he just is a attention whore... " omg, i haz 50,000 topic comments....60,000 till i post ze gamma!"

 

[WiiGator]

WIIGATOR you been on the board 4ever.... Can you post an update or comment or anything?

Maybe when you post your pictures, I will release something

Waninkoko wants to finish something before we will release it.

 

[Forsaekn]

@Forsaekn, very interesting. may i ask what was this breakthrough that enabled you to use the Wii app to load backups as well as originals? i am sure WiiGator would have loved to do it the same way as it seems to be the best possible loader (well, maybe not best, but Nintendo built)

WiiGator actually is the one who came up with this fix, and its used in gamma's reload function. The thing is that his reloader makes the changes in memory and reloads the menu, whereas mine is permanent in NAND from the get go. His fix really is genius, It's way simpler than what I had been writing the last week or so haha, so i scrapped mine and implemented it. Its kind of sad that we only had to change 8 bytes... :X

Im sure he'll want to explain it when he releases his work, so i'll leave that to him.

Fors