Hacking Arm9Loaderhax and GW 3DS

[artur3004]

Ok because nobody answered the same question in gbatemp ASK! I'm going to ask here.

Can I still use my Gateway 3DS Flashcard if I install arm9loaderhax? Would it work even if I update sysnand up to 10.6 with a9lh?

 

[Scarlet]

I don't believe you can if you have sysNAND 10.6. However, if you have arm9loaderhax booting into emuNAND, you can have it so Menuhax loads if you hold L (booting into sysNAND).

 

[artur3004]

I thought with arm9loaderhax you don't need emunand anymore.
Btw my n3ds is on 9.0, using menuhax to boot ctrmanager and various cfw loader.

 

[Scarlet]

I thought with arm9loaderhax you don't need emunand anymore.
Btw my n3ds is on 9.0, using menuhax to boot ctrmanager and various cfw loader.

Yeah, arm9loaderhax doesn't need emuNAND, I just don't believe Gateway is naively supported by a9lh

 

[artur3004]

So there is no way for using gw 3ds (not even in sysnand mode?) if I'm using a9lh? Well that sucks a bit - let's wait until gateway team maybe will do something in the future

 

[Akurosia]

Yes u can use gw when having a9lh installed. Just boot in a 9x firm and start gw as usualy.

 

[Hakujou]

You can keep your SysNAND on 9.2, or setup an EmuNAND on 9.2 and boot it with A9LH (after that you'll be able to go to GW)

 

[artur3004]

If I want to use a9lh I don't want to use emunand anymore - menuhax has for me pretty well boot rate. So I wouldn't really benefit a9hl, or am I wrong?

 

[Hakujou]

But Gateway uses EmuNAND...
And A9LH is a huge improvement over MenuHax anyway : It can be used to recover from most SysNAND bricks.

 

[artur3004]

gateway works in sysnand, too, in the launcher, just hold B while pressing A to start GW Mode.

I'm most of the time in emunand, so if sysnand stays untouched, it won't brick by itself.

 

[rainparadesamurai]

Ok because nobody answered the same question in gbatemp ASK! I'm going to ask here.

Can I still use my Gateway 3DS Flashcard if I install arm9loaderhax? Would it work even if I update sysnand up to 10.6 with a9lh?

http://gbatemp.net/threads/nands-are-swichted-and-install-gateway.416786/ I installed gateway on my arm9loaderhax with aureinand cfw and it loaded as it should after looking and asking how to do so on gbatemp

 

[Bu2d85]

You can use a9lh to boot AuReinand emunand and a sigpatched sysnand. That's pretty much it except for the boot manager that I don't use.

If you only want to play cia games it will boot directly into emunand if you want to play games off your GW card or use their cheat function hold "L" to boot into your sysnand and menuhax. Launch and use GW as you normally do now.

Do not update your sysnand because there is really no point right now unless you really want to play GBA games without installing them twice.

This is how I am currently setup.

 

[Ronhero]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/nands-are-swichted-and-install-gateway.416786/#post-6121041

This is the best setup for arm9. Launch using L boot on sysnand

You can always menuhax on L boot to load GW

 

[20mark]

ok i also want to boot gw on arm9hax. i know now i just cant, but what about BootCtr9? on menuhax i use BootCtr to load gw.3dsx, can i just setup BootCtr9 and load gw.3dsx as usual?

 

[Ronhero]

ok i also want to boot gw on arm9hax. i know now i just cant, but what about BootCtr9? on menuhax i use BootCtr to load gw.3dsx, can i just setup BootCtr9 and load gw.3dsx as usual?

With aurei I was able to setup menuhax for L trigger to load and have that load GW. I then made R trigger by pass menuhax for gba / dsi

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

ok i also want to boot gw on arm9hax. i know now i just cant, but what about BootCtr9? on menuhax i use BootCtr to load gw.3dsx, can i just setup BootCtr9 and load gw.3dsx as usual?

Its not possible to tun 3dsx files on arm9, the 3dsx files need the kernel and services running to work, but maybe gateway will release a a9lh payload in future, till then simply use sys or emunand on 9.2 for gateway booting, and maybe start gateway only, if you need its features(I mostly use it for the cheat finding, for everything else I use a cfw and installed cias)

 

[20mark]

With aurei I was able to setup menuhax for L trigger to load and have that load GW. I then made R trigger by pass menuhax for gba / dsi

nice setup. thanks!

Its not possible to tun 3dsx files on arm9, the 3dsx files need the kernel and services running to work, but maybe gateway will release a a9lh payload in future, till then simply use sys or emunand on 9.2 for gateway booting, and maybe start gateway only, if you need its features(I mostly use it for the cheat finding, for everything else I use a cfw and installed cias)

thank you RednaxelaNnamtra, i didn't know that.
But why i cant boot the gw.dat payload with bootctr9?
I cant figure out what i can do with BootCtr9,even reading the github page...

 

[GothicIII]

Its not possible to tun 3dsx files on arm9, the 3dsx files need the kernel and services running to work, but maybe gateway will release a a9lh payload in future, till then simply use sys or emunand on 9.2 for gateway booting, and maybe start gateway only, if you need its features(I mostly use it for the cheat finding, for everything else I use a cfw and installed cias)

Finally an answer that says why it doesnt work. Thank you.

As far as I understand bootctr9 uses a different payload to gain access to the system. If I understood it correctly, bootctr9 is run before the system boots completely thus making .3dsx/.dat files not runnable because the kernel the files require is still not loaded. Only special programmed homebrews will run. (Like Aureinands .dat and decrypt9)

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

nice setup. thanks!


thank you RednaxelaNnamtra, i didn't know that.
But why i cant boot the gw.dat payload with bootctr9?
I cant figure out what i can do with BootCtr9,even reading the github page...

I haven't updated the readme yet, because I would count all current releases as pre releases, I will create a thread and add a full readme after I added everything I want.
But its possible to use it like bootctr, but only directly at boot, and the payloads need to have an updated start.s to work correctly on a9lh.

Finally an answer that says why it doesnt work. Thank you.

As far as I understand bootctr9 uses a different payload to gain access to the system. If I understood it correctly, bootctr9 is run before the system boots completely thus making .3dsx/.dat files not runnable because the kernel the files require is still not loaded. Only special programmed homebrews will run. (Like Aureinands .dat and decrypt9)

Its possible to use aureinands .dat, also every other .dat with updated mpu settings in the start.s, but not everything that does decryption works, since the keys aren't setup before firmlaunch.

 

[20mark]

@RednaxelaNnamtra thanks for clarification. Now it makes sense to me.