Are we really need switch 2?

[Deleted member 737209]

For being "obsolete" at release the Switch has achieved something the other consoles can't even dream of.

Games from the other consoles are being released on Switch (why could that be?) -Nintendo and its fans know the answer-, how many Nintendo's IP games are being released on the other consoles?

I'd much rather see the next Zelda come out on PC where it would look magical but it won't happen in the foreseeable future. Only if Nintendo fucks up 2 hardware generations in a row like Sega did. As much as I love the Switch, deep down I wish it failed.

 

[BlusterBong]

If we're going to be honest, even the Steam Deck has already reached the point where it's more or less obsolete. More recent non-indie games (and even some high-end indie games) struggle to run on it, and games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter: Wilds simply require more powerful hardware than what the Steam Deck has. It's just kind of impossible to make any sort of handheld system that will remain relevant hardware-wise for more than a couple years at most.

Only thing that really matters for handheld systems is what they have to offer, since hardware is never going to be a big selling point (because if hardware with long-lasting relevance is the only goal, then you're better off buying top-of-the-line parts and building your own PC, which is obviously going to cost quite a bit).

it's a little worse when you consiter that the Steam Deck alongside most other handheld PCs don't even have games in physical media unlike the Switch and soon to be Switch 2 by the nature of how much the PC gaming side of the industry has largely left it behind to the point any recent game you could get physically on PC is just a disk that has a glorified steam installer with a steam code under the disk in the box, and the deck itself doesn't have any of Valve's games preloaded on it to flex how good thier Wine fork Proton is

and that's still not accounting for the fact you can buy a decent laptop or desktop for more general purposes for the same prices as a Steam Deck regardless of if it's an LCD or OLED model, though it will certainly breakthrough once the prices for all of the models cost less than a traditional prebuilt PC you can buy off Amazon or Newegg, is less of a headache for normies compared to a general PC, and has more value that cannot be beat by just using a laptop instead.

 

[nine0nine]

We need a switch 2 more than we needed a PS5 or whatever the newer xbox is called, at least from a hardware spec perspective.

Personally, I dont have much of an issue with the current hardware, It's not like the final sprint of the PS1, PS2 era where the hardware looked very dated compared to the newer hardware.
Some cross generation games are difficult to tell apart on PS4/PS5 and even PS5 pro, so for me its clear the need for new hardware is not the same as it was when we hopped from 8bit to 16bit to 32bit.

Sure, some games chugg, but for the most part games hold up well and a large percentage of the market has no compaints, even if the framerates dips every now and then.

However I am looking forward to seeing what else the machine has in store for us, I would be surprised if a spec bump and an optical sensor on the joycons are the only changes.

Anything that brings the next wave of Nintendo franchises will be bought, if it throws in a few new experiences, all the better.

 

[mrmagicm]

When I read you guyz, I'm beginning to think you all work for Nintendo promoting the Switch 2 (specially Nine0Line) but ...There is no real need for a Switch 2, it won't bring nothing real new innovation like the other did, worst, you will loose access to a good part your game library you had on Switch just in order to play newer games and will have to keep both consoles, that's the point of Nintendo making money, do you understand this? It's just for the hype and you're all in making this Thread. The Steam Deck is already better you know? Switch 2 will have the same success as the Wii U because the market is already crowded. Mostly, people who don't have a Switch already might be interested, or top gamers that want novelty but won't get a lot a novelties.

 

[balemoc]

So, I've seen their first look trailer, and i am don't sure about that this will be popular

Even when it's compared to the system that already on the market, switch 2 is actually

kinda lacks any new features.

For Example, Steam Deck:

A portable(hm, it's not portable as it looks) handheld system, that can be connected to the TV/Monitor, via hub. That allows to play games on it with the controller.

But the switch(AFAIK), was the first system that made that gimmick more popular to consumers, and better because it's don't required people to buy more controllers.

Okay, Steam Deck costs a lot. If we needed only a something that costs LESS, there's a market for a cheap emulation based consoles. They offer a way to connect a cheap system to the HDMI port and allow the same trick, but only they don't sometimes even require a controller. Because your console - is controller.

The problem is if we compare that emulation based systems, that is actually a problem. This guys don't have any homebrew software(AFAIK), so you will be forced to play only games and use software that designed for Oldschool hardware.

So,if you need to play Modern new games - you need Steam Deck. Retro Games - emulation based handhelds. Switch in a situation, that he has a lot of ports of modern games, but it's actually not Hi-End Device, so the ports are graphically inferior on PCs.

The switch 2 more likely have a modern games.Also, people gonna be waiting that someone will hack it up. And this means - the Switch may lack homebrews for a while.

If someone want to play a games on the start, they`ll be playing old ports that don't use full power of the switch 2. Also, you will have option to play old games from subscribtion based service.

So, Let's get back to the topic. I have a question(Actually it's in the thread title),


if we have switch already, wanting to play some old or modern games(not both), and we have some alternatives, why we should even buy a switch 2?


The gimmick that nintendo presented is already in some handhelds. A variation, but some devices have some sort of it.

The modern gamer will probably pick up Steam Deck.The Retro gamers, as i see addicted to the emulator handheld consoles(I don't love and even own one of this things,so i am not calling this retro handhelds.I have a retro handheld, but it's N3DS), and the switch 1.If you just wanted to play the Nintendo switch online's old games, that don't be on switch 2, why not just a buy a Steam Deck, or a emulator based handheld?

And if you need a system that will play switch games, you will probably buy a steam deck and emulate it.

They have a same gimmick, same games via emulator, so once again - referring to the threads name.


What are you guys think about my thoughts about the new switch?
Feel free to share your thoughts

I think you're underestimating the IP titles Nintendo have. The way they've branded their systems and the way people play.

You're looking at the NSWTCH2 from a modder's perspective.

Nintendo is looking at the Switch 2 as continued platform to advertise their IPs. ie. Mario Bros. Pokemon ...Mario revenue figures alone are in the billions per annum.

My borther and I only ended up with Nintendo hardware because Monster Hunter 3U/4U/GU and Rise were on it. We move where Capcom Monster Hunter goes

 

[Marc_LFD]

It's where Nintendo releases their games, so yes, it's necessary. NS1 was struggling.

Give us a new Zelda (not BotW3) and Mario Odyssey 2, and NS2 is a worthwhile purchase.

 

[sarkwalvein]

We don't need any game console or gaming device, it's all luxury just like the cherry on top of a cake.
Should you buy it?
Should you buy the cherry to put on top of the cake?

If you want... it will make the cake look fancier, sure.

 

[AshtonLee]

my console Switch Oled still good

 

[westlake0415]

my console Switch Oled still good

i think the same

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Yes.