All ROMs are illegal

[paul3100]

How did this turn into a my country is better than yours thread?

That would have been me

and yes the uk is better than SH*TTY usa (only teasing)

paul

 

[xDlmaoxD]

Look what matters at the end of the day is that, the dude that made the thread STILL will continue downloading "backups".
Second if he doesn't , that means he can't only reason for someone to bitch about "backups" is if they dont have a hack console to play them in.
Also how old is the guy that made the thread? I don't feel like being schooled by a freaking 16 year old.
Lastly everyone that is saying its wrong are damn right hypocrites, why because you do it to.
Don't know why people bother stating the obvious, you are ignorant because we "Americans" never said it was legal to do it.
You must have read wrong, or read from some idiot that wrote it somewhere, remember not to judge everyone by one persons actions.
What next your going to tell me not to have sex until i get married just because you can't get laid?

 

[SoLuckys]

in my country its not illegal, there is a store in my town that installs modchips in ps2es and sells ps2 backups too

 

[Vater Unser]

Since when did people care about obeying the law?
It's all just about not getting yourself into trouble, not about being a good citizen. Since pirates are rarely prosecuted, nobody gives a shit.
How many adolescents under the age of 21 are drinking alcohol anyway? How many people (especially in america) don't give a shit about pot being illegal? How many times did any of you people drive too fast?
The only time people actually care about the law is when there's a police officer around or when their common sense tells them what they're doing is wrong.
Piracy seems pretty harmless compared to some of the stuff that many, many people frequently do in spite of it being forbidden, or even compared to a lot of stuff that's perfectly legal.

Now that the Pirate Bay has been convicted and piracy in general is a hot topic again, I'm just outraged by all the bullshit people tell about pirates and piracy outside of places like the GBAtemp...Some people actually believe the bullshit lies the MPAA are spreading about damages caused by piracy, or more specifically the Pirate Bay, and they actually hoped for longer prison sentences. Can you believe that?

Yet when it comes to disregarding the road traffic regulations, one of few the things that actually make sense, nobody seems to give a shit.
Chinese rip-off products seem to be quite popular all over the world, too. Who cares if it's making those people poor who actually invented the products you're buying? Yeah, but how dare those filthy pirates to download stuff they'd never ever spend any money on in the first place. What about the products that were fabricated by children? What about the products that were harvested by people who get paid virtually nothing, just so we don't have to pay shit? It's them who provide us with the stuff we need, yet somehow, they're poor and we're rich as fuck, how ironic.
But as long as people can enjoy the convenience of paying the minimum price for their stuff, all of that suddenly seems to be okay. From a moral perspective, buying sugar or coffee at dumping prices from a third world country is a lot worse than piracy will ever potentially be. Hell, even driving a car is a lot worse, let alone buying products that aren't "green", let alone boarding a plane, actively ruining the future of our children and ourselves (as in: billions of people, not some fucking lobbyists who just want to become even richer).
I'm not saying those 'equations' are accurate, since I'm not an economist or an ecologist, but anyone who tells me I'm a bad person for pirating a half-assed cash-in game that's nowhere near worth the money can still kiss my ass.

 

[InuYasha]

Honestly theres more issues that require attention in the world then whos downloading crap off the internet for free....

 

[RPG Hacker]

I don't think golden tried to enforce the law in this forum. Hell, that would be impossible. He just wanted to clarify, that ROMs ARE illegal, since many people say, that they would be legal, as long as you have the original (which they aren't). He also wanted to point out, that everyone who says something else is just ignorant. And yeah, I agree to him. And no, I do not stop playing backups. And I don't think that he isn't playing backups, either. He never said he didn't.

 

[golden]

WOW PEOPLE. You have got me all wrong. I don't say people shouldn't pirate or that I am anti piracy. And LMAO at someone calling me a Jahova's Witness. Honestly, you can't pirate anymore than I already do. I am such a huge pirate and I don't care and I don't hide it. THAT WASN'T THE POINT OF THE THREAD THOUGH YOU GUYS MISUNDERSTAND. My point was to ask why do people try to justify their DLs of ROMs by saying "I own all of these" when it's still illegal to DL them if you own all of them? Why not just say "I don't care". The question of this thread was asking "why do people justify their DLs by saying it's legal when they are not". That was my point. I didn't say don't pirate. I didn't say it's bad. I don't care at all. All you guys misunderstood why I made the thread.

It is perfectly fine to own a rom/iso of a game I own. Just as it is to rip a copy of a cd/dvd. I am even allowed to make backup copies of my pc games for personal use.

Also lols at 1983 which is 26 years ago. Dumping atari games. It was probably illegal back then because you needed extra hardware. Lols at magnetic media. Cassette tapes really.
no you're wrong. i made this thread because of the people like you that still think this nonsense. I made the thread to ask "Why are people like you think it's legal? Are you just ignorant?". Your logic is so horrible and flawed. I made this thread EXACTLY for people like you with your mindset.

Guys, I think you got him wrong.
He's saying that making a backup of a game you own is still illegal. It's still called pirating.
I totally agree with him.

/summaryTHANK YOU. Finally. Someone gets it. Thanks. First person on the thread to understand. thanks thanks thanks.

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You cannot put them onto OTHER CARTRIDGES!! This says nothing about putting them on a PC and using the raw binarys, or putting them on a console they were not meant to be on (XBOX+Emu, or Wii+Emu).

Actually your wrong. If you look at my second source it clarifies that you cannot even copy them. It's not specific to destination. The act of copying them is forbidden completely.

 

[purplesludge]

Didn't realise you made this thread for people who rip their own isos. Congrats on being a dbag.

 

[Vater Unser]

I'm sure more than one people understood your concern, golden, it's just that this topic turned into a whole different discussion after only like 2 posts or so.

 

[golden]

Didn't realise you made this thread for people who rip their own isos. Congrats on being a dbag.

go tell that to the government. thanks.

 

[RPG Hacker]

I'm sure more than one people understood your concern, golden, it's just that this topic turned into a whole different discussion after only like 2 posts or so.

Yep! From a discussion about ROMs to a discussion about the law and even about how one country is better then another. Seriously! No country is better then Germany! How are you people so ignorant not to see that? Only thinking about that is a sin! This is sarcasm by the way.

 

[xDlmaoxD]

Why the hell make a thread then if you are a "big pirate fan".
Then try to feel superior by telling people that no that, that is also not legal.
Just go get laid.

BTW Its funny if another country says they are better, but its not funny if Germany is that country, forgot the Holocaust, the thing that didn't exit AHAH.
Sorry being sarcastic there too xD

 

[purplesludge]

Go tell the government you made this thread?Or that anyone that rips their own isos is ignorant? No one has ever been convicted for just ripping their own isos. Also a EULA will NEVER hold up in court.
If you would have read right below the private ownership part you would have read this It is, of course, legal to purchase a ROM image which has been licensed to you by the rights holder. For example, Atari once made a number of their original arcade games available in ROM format which is compatible with the MAME emulator through the online ROM retailer Star ROMs. Nintendo provides a service on their 7th generation console, the Wii, that allows players to purchase old games from various systems, such as the NES, which will download a ROM image and emulator upon purchase (see Virtual Console).

 

[deethebee]

weed,meth,coke(etc) is also illegal in the U.S but people will still be doing it even if is illegal

 

[Vater Unser]

Yeah, I kinda said that already

 

[golden]

Why the hell make a thread then if you are a "big pirate fan".
Then try to feel superior by telling people that no that, that is also not legal.
Just go get laid.

BTW Its funny if another country says they are better, but its not funny if Germany is that country, forgot the Holocaust, the thing that didn't exit AHAH.
Sorry being sarcastic there too xD
I would tell you to go take your own advice and don't assume things:
Just go get laid.

I'm not doing this to feel superior, I guess you aren't smart enough to understand that.

Go tell the government you made this thread?Or that anyone that rips their own isos is ignorant? No one has ever been convicted for just ripping their own isos. Also a EULA will NEVER hold up in court.
If you would have read right below the private ownership part you would have read this It is, of course, legal to purchase a ROM image which has been licensed to you by the rights holder. For example, Atari once made a number of their original arcade games available in ROM format which is compatible with the MAME emulator through the online ROM retailer Star ROMs. Nintendo provides a service on their 7th generation console, the Wii, that allows players to purchase old games from various systems, such as the NES, which will download a ROM image and emulator upon purchase (see Virtual Console).
this is where you people are very very very very ignorant. Not only have people been convicted of ripping their own things before like music and games but they have been convicted by the same companies that you guys all love and buy things from like sony. so not only is what i am saying 100% true that anyone the backs up anything is a pirate but people have been convicted for it as well. You people need to open your eyes.


http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/new...-world-plus-dog
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Sony reckons everyone's a pirate
Back-ups are stealing
By Nick Farrell: Wednesday, 03 October 2007, 3:26 PM
SONY has new definition of what it considers software piracy which will criminalise most of the world.
In testimony in the flagship Capitol Records, et al versus Jammie Thomas Jennifer Pariser, case, the head of litigation for Sony BMG told the world that it was piracy for someone to back-up a CD they have bought or upload it onto their MP3 player.
If this were true, then more people would be pirates than there would be legitimate users.
She said that when an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, Sony can say he stole a song." Making "a copy" of a purchased song is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'.
This suggests that punters have no 'fair use' rights to make backups of the music that they have purchased.

 

[Maz7006]

Well what if you live in a country that doesn't even care, like me. I mean piracy is in many areas in Lebanon here. I honestly think that the government doesn't care, i mean if it did, the many shops in which i go to would have closed down ages ago.

 

[Joey Ravn]

What's your take on this?

My take on this? Well, if you ask me, I don't give a damn. And I don't see why you would give a damn about what I think about this.

Call the police and the government if that bothers you.

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[mucus]

What?
Since when have roms been illegal?

Does this mean that I can't even download a copy of a game I already own? Even just to have it as a back up?

What crap

Of course it's illegal, if uploading/downloading roms was legal then how would any of the game companies make any money?

This is a crap topic.

Everyone knows that it's illegal

not that it means someone is going to come to your house and check your hard drive for illegal crap.

god i can't handle this

 

[purplesludge]

Can you even show a single conviction?