Aaargh! Stumped with five games

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  1. regnad
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    I have a Japanese 4.3J Wii, soft modded with HBC, Wiiflow, USB Loader GX, CFG, and Gecko. I also have it hard modded with a Wode and Wodeflow.

    I have five games I can't get to work no matter what. I've tried multiple dumps of both NTSC and PAL versions, every loader I have, and never have success:

    Punch Out
    A Boy And His Blob
    Go Vacation
    Munchables
    Kirby's Return to Dreamland (called Kirby Wii in EU)

    That last one has some form of AP if I'm not mistaken, but I have no idea how to get around it. The other four I haven't a clue. It should be said I have no trouble with virtually every back up I've tried. It's just these five.

    Has anyone had success with these five? Any ideas?
     
  2. Cyan

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    still asking the same questions? ;)

    I already replied in all your previous threads/posts about kirby.
    Disable all patches (return to, cheatcode, etc.) and use the same game region than the console.


    my version of A Boy and his blob (SBLE5G) works with no special setup on my PAL+480p+16:9 Wii. (Tested 5min ago on USBLoaderGX 1231 + d2x v8[56], return to UNEO, no cheat, video game default)
    I don't have the other games to test.
     
  3. Foxi4

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    Re-try booting the games using the different cIOS and make sure you're running the lastes d2x and Hermes versions, that's all you can do.
     
  4. regnad
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    Thanks for the responses both of you!

    I have tried all of those things you recommend, Cyan, except using only versions from my Wii's region. My Wii is Japanese. I'd rather not play these in Japanese as my kanji reading skills are poor. And some, like Boy And His Blob and Munchables, don't exist in Japanese region versions. Anyhow region differences don't seem to have affected everything else I've tried.

    Foxi4: I have tried using different cIOS. How do I update d2x and Hermes? Or how can I tell if I have the latest versions if these?

    Wouldn't the WODE run these games regardless of cIOS version, as it is a modchip that should work without softmodding anyway?
     
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    ^


    So what do you expect? A miracle?
    Fact is Fact, you can't meet the criteria, you cant run the game.
    You only hope is to change to a game with the same region as your Wii or change your Wii's region. But changing a Wii's region is a risky procedure, I wouldn't trust you on it.

    These 5 games are the odd ones for you, why would you compare them to the rest of your collections?

    Edit: oh, there is one more option for you, try EmuNand
     
  6. regnad
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    No need to belittle me.

    I don't expect a miracle, I just thought there's something I was missing. I've had problems with other games, asked for help, gotten help, and successfully run those games that were previously problematic.
     
  7. Cyan

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    Metafortress protected game are checking memory all the times, if you run the game through a loader you MUST disable ALL memory patches (game region patch is part of the check, that's why the NTSC-U version is not working on your NTSC-J console).


    another method to allow the game to be patched is to use gameconfig.txt method.

    put Crediar's gameconfig.txt file on the root of your SD card, or in the cheat path of the loaders (or anywhere else where the loader you are using is loading it from), and launch the game.
    USBLoaderGX is still not configured to autoload this file if you don't enable at least one cheatcode, so ... you'll have to cheat (if you don't want to cheat, choose a not invasive one, or maybe try an empty cheat with no effect, it only require that a .gct is loaded to also load gameconfig.txt file). I plan to change that in a future revision to not be forced to enable ocarina to load that file.

    The gameconfig was created to use Classic Controller instead of Wiimote, so it includes the metafortress fix (anti anti-patch).


    or you can use this converted gameconfig.txt code to Ocarina format directly from the Ocarina menu, which is a good cheat which doesn't affect game's difficulty.
    Classic Controller [crediar
     
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    That's odd. I never had any trouble playing Kirby's Adventure. Didn't even realize it had AP.
     
  9. AbdallahTerro

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    Ideas factory :)
    yeah me too Kirby, punch out and A Boy & His Blob worked with default settings!
     
  10. Thomas83Lin

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    The Classic Controller code doesn't contain the Metafortress protection patch. its totally separate from the protection patch and won't help here.
     
  11. Cyan

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    ah, thanks for the info :)
     
  12. regnad
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    Well, I suppose in the end it's my Japanese Wii causing the problems.

    I updated the D2X and Hermes cIOSs and tried these all again with all of my loaders, and still no luck.

    Regarding the Kirby Wii -- it makes it as far as the main title screen and then after that I get a white screen and it freezes.
     
  13. Foxi4

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    Post a SysCheck. There's no reason why they wouldn't work on a fully updated Wii.
     
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    Thanks very much for having a look!

    sysCheck v2.1.0b13 by Double_A and R2-D2199
    ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

    Region: NTSC-J
    System Menu 4.3J (v512)
    Priilaoder installed
    Homebrew Channel 1.0.0 running on IOS0
    Hollywood v0x11
    Console ID: 58746427
    Boot2 v4
    Found 161 titles.
    Found 56 IOS on this console. 8 of them are stub.

    IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug ES Identify Flash Access NAND Access
    IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access
    IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
    IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
    IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    IOS59 (rev 9249): No Patches
    IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS202[60] (rev 65535 Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS224[57] (rev 65535 Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access
    IOS245[37] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS246[38] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug ES Identify NAND Access
    IOS247[53] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS248[55] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS249[37] (rev 21006 Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS250 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS251[58] (rev 21008 Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6
    MIOS v65535

    Report generated on 2014/09/07.
     
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    use 'any region changer' to change the "Game Region Setting" to USA to run a boy and his blob and kirby (don't touch any other settings, as you could get a semi brick)
    i'm on J too, you don't need to change your system menu (and it doesn't fix it even if you do)
     
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    Let's start with the fact that changing the System Menu's region can lead to a brick. My personal recommendation would be installing PriiLoader and selecting the Region patch, then trying again. You should have PriiLoader installed anyways in case of an emergency. As for changing the game's region, I never had to do that with any game - most USB loaders have region manipulation options already built-in. In USBLoader GX it's under "Patch Country Strings".
     
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    I would try EmuNand first. No guarantee though

    I have only one Jap game that won't work on my US console (Region changed from Jap and the Jap game works before the change). I don't care about the game so I never tried it on EmuNand myself.

    Region changing is really not for noobs.
     
  18. regnad
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    Well, I'm not going to do the region changing then. I'd rather do without these five games than brick the Wii. :wacko:

    I'll try changing Priiloader region patch settings (although I feel I've done this already) and patch country strings and see how that goes.

    Excuse my noobish question, but what is EmuNand?
     
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    Replace it with the d2x v8 (or v10) based on IOS56 & try to run those games using this cIOS.
     
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    Ugh, I swear I just did this. I have no idea why it isn't updated.

    I used this 3.1 installer: https://code.google.com/p/d2x-cios/wiki/How_To_Install

    And I chose v10-beta52 from here: https://code.google.com/p/d2x-cios/

    When installing I selected it for 249. Is there something I did wrong? It certainly does seem not to have updated on the syscheck.