Gaming 3DS Game Dumps?

[Rydian]

How's a dumped game not about piracy?
It's pretty much definition.

Being able to disassemble a copy of a retail ROM can go far into hacking a system and helping developmental tools for it. Those unofficial specs and programming tools don't come from nowhere, they come from people taking the official shit apart and experimenting.

 

[Nollog]

How's a dumped game not about piracy?
It's pretty much definition.

Being able to disassemble a copy of a retail ROM can go far into hacking a system and helping developmental tools for it. Those unofficial specs and programming tools don't come from nowhere, they come from people taking the official shit apart and experimenting.

Piracy
Copyright infringement (or copyright violation) is the unauthorized or prohibited use of works covered by copyright law, in a way that violates one of the copyright owner's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_(media)

 

[DeMoN]

Even for the DS, the first releases were all nuked because they only worked on one particular flash cart.
So yeah, seeing any type of progress would be nice.

 

[Rydian]

How's a dumped game not about piracy?
It's pretty much definition.

Being able to disassemble a copy of a retail ROM can go far into hacking a system and helping developmental tools for it. Those unofficial specs and programming tools don't come from nowhere, they come from people taking the official shit apart and experimenting.

Piracy
Copyright infringement (or copyright violation) is the unauthorized or prohibited use of works covered by copyright law, in a way that violates one of the copyright owner's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_(media)

Are you claiming something such as devkitARM is piracy?

 

[Nollog]

Does it use code that belongs to someone else, and breaks the license of that code's holder?
Do they pay royalties?

 

[redact]

Does it use code that belongs to someone else, and breaks the license of that code's holder?
Do they pay royalties?

you don't know much about reverse engineering do you?
they dissassemble code (by hand) and study it to understand how the console works. they aren't just copy-pasting some random nintendo code...

 

[Nollog]

Does it use code that belongs to someone else, and breaks the license of that code's holder?
Do they pay royalties?

you don't know much about reverse engineering do you?
they dissassemble code (by hand) and study it to understand how the console works. they aren't just copy-pasting some random nintendo code...

I was reverse engineering while dingos were still eating your babies.
doesn't make it any less illegal.
(...to decompile a game, and use parts of its code)
Hell, even putting a rom on your computer is piracy, so why the argument?

 

[redact]

I was reverse engineering while dingos were still eating your babies.
so you're saying you haven't started yet?

doesn't make it any less illegal.
it's not illegal

(...to decompile a game, and use parts of its code)

you're saying that devkitarm contains copyrighted source code of closed-source nintendo software?
got any proof to back up this bullshit claim

QUOTE(Nollog @ Mar 24 2011, 08:03 PM)

Hell, even putting a rom on your computer is piracy, so why the argument?

i'm not talking about that, i'm referring to the post of yours that rydian quoted

 

[Apk07]

I was reverse engineering while dingos were still eating your babies.
doesn't make it any less illegal.
(...to decompile a game, and use parts of its code)
Hell, even putting a rom on your computer is piracy, so why the argument?

Not if you physically own the rom...

If you physically own it, why can't you take it apart?

I guess I'll never buy a computer again cause its super illegal to change out the parts

 

[Nollog]

I was reverse engineering while dingos were still eating your babies.
so you're saying you haven't started yet?

doesn't make it any less illegal.
it's not illegal

(...to decompile a game, and use parts of its code)
you're saying that devkitarm contains copyrighted source code of closed-source nintendo software?
got any proof to back up this bullshit claim

Hell, even putting a rom on your computer is piracy, so why the argument?
i'm not talking about that, i'm referring to the post of yours that rydian quoted

I reversed engineers some stuff 6 or 8 years ago.
see below. If they DO use code from somebody and don't pay royalties or whatever they need to give them in order to use it, then it is illegal.
Looks like somebody is confusing questions for statements.
I thought that post was straight forward. It's a definition of piracy.

QUOTE(Apk07 @ Mar 24 2011, 12:13 PM)

QUOTE(Nollog @ Mar 24 2011, 08:03 AM)

I was reverse engineering while dingos were still eating your babies.
doesn't make it any less illegal.
(...to decompile a game, and use parts of its code)
Hell, even putting a rom on your computer is piracy, so why the argument?

Not if you physically own the rom...

If you physically own it, why can't you take it apart?

I guess I'll never buy a computer again cause its super illegal to change out the parts

you never own the code contained within a cartridge.
you own the physical cartridge.
the code remains the property of activision, thq, whoever.

Looks like somebody is confusing physical objects for intellectual properties.(no offense, just going with a post theme)

 

[Rydian]

Nollog, stop trolling.

You claim you've been reverse-engineering things for years (and use the claim as a platform to insult others), but you obviously don't know that much about lower-level programming. Last I checked Nintendo did not own the ARM architecture, so hush.

 

[spotanjo3]

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that we haven't seen any 3DS games dumped yet? I mean, the media has had US games for weeks now, and Japanese games have been at retail for well over a month. What is taking so long?

Go and buy 3DS games because if you want to piracy it then do it yourself. THINK! It is just too new and there are no tools to do it right now. Just like DS when it was first arrive and no tools available to dump it. For now, just buy the games to support the companies, you cheapskate thief!

 

[DiscostewSM]

Nollog, stop trolling.

You claim you've been reverse-engineering things for years (and use the claim as a platform to insult others), but you obviously don't know that much about lower-level programming. Last I checked Nintendo did not own the ARM architecture, so hush.

This. Most definitely this.

And here's the proof of that.

GBATek

What does this contain? It contains all the reverse-engineered information about the GBA and DS that we know of. Everything you see there is based on exact knowledge of what each known memory-mapped register does, and how they interact with the system. No Nintendo API or code is used at all. All interaction with the device is done directly. All that DevkitARM does is compile to the specific ARM machine code (which is not own by Nintendo as Rydian already said). How it organizes everything is based on the information from the above link, and put as a baseline for DevKitARM.

 

[Nollog]

Nollog, stop trolling.

You claim you've been reverse-engineering things for years (and use the claim as a platform to insult others), but you obviously don't know that much about lower-level programming. Last I checked Nintendo did not own the ARM architecture, so hush.

You're being silly now.
I said I did some reverse engineering years ago.
I said this to tell the person that I am informed on what it is and how it works.
I didn't insult the person, I jokingly referenced a difference between what they seemed to understand that I said devkit was illegal, rather than what I actually did which was ASK if it was using code attained illegally.
ARM architecture is an architecture, it's not a game's code.
ARM UK owns ARM, not Nintendo.

 

[Pong20302000]

Did you find some way to dump 3DS cartridges? --Popoffka 09:15, 1 June 2011 (CEST)
Yes, someone found a way to dump the data on 3DS cards. Unfortunately the method cannot be disclosed, and at this point dumping is not really useful since most of the information is encrypted. Neimod 10:03, 1 June 2011 (CEST)

its done through a method of connecting some extra cables on the motherboard pinouts to a computer and then you can dump the data

not recommended as its requires hard modding your 3DS currently

 

[Melter]

joined in 2003, 60 posts ???

 

[ccfreak2k]

Did you find some way to dump 3DS cartridges? --Popoffka 09:15, 1 June 2011 (CEST)
Yes, someone found a way to dump the data on 3DS cards. Unfortunately the method cannot be disclosed, and at this point dumping is not really useful since most of the information is encrypted. Neimod 10:03, 1 June 2011 (CEST)

its done through a method of connecting some extra cables on the motherboard pinouts to a computer and then you can dump the data

not recommended as its requires hard modding your 3DS currently

If it involves logic analyzers, it's even more hairy than that because of the speed/width of some of the buses. JTAG is a bit easier. IIRC there was mention of possible test points on the motherboard. What became of that?

As for the OP: 3DS games are apparently not that hard to dump (one existing program can do it already), but the ROM content is encrypted, making the dumps useless for now.

 

[spotanjo3]

If you cannot afford to buy games but hope to have someone dump it just for piracy just for free then you shouldn't buy 3DS. Save your money for something else you can afford. A piracy is like a thief and its wrong. Correct me if I am wrong and a proof why the piracy is not illegal.

 

[ferret7463]

If you cannot afford to buy games but hope to have someone dump it just for piracy then you shouldn't buy 3DS. Save your money for something else you can afford. A piracy is like a thief and its wrong. Correct me if I am wrong and a proof why the piracy is not illegal.

If you have those types of feelings than you don't need to be reading these forums. Your name suggest that you like the SNES game Mega man and Forte', Don't BS me and say you have an actual copy of this game. You most likely "Down Loaded" the rom and patched it. AKA you pirated as well. It kinda bugs me when we are on a "Hacking" site , we tend to get these "I'm holier than Thou" jerks talking down to people who are at least honest about what they want a hack for.

P.S.: if you say you have the GBA version it's called "Mega Man and Bass"

 

[chris888222]

Sorta off topic but...

Even if they managed to dump a 3DS file, i only wonder the file size. 1GB?