Question 3DS emulation on Switch

Discussion in 'Switch - Emulation, Homebrew & Software Projects' started by AshenWolf, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. monkeyman4412

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    Think everyone is forgetting that most emulators for the switch at the moment are using only interpreter, not jit or a recompiler. (or is wip recompiler) I personally believe the switch should be able to run 3ds games no problem, but I think both the emulation on the switch side, along with the citra emulator itself still needs to be optimized. It's not crazy to ask that, it is crazy however to ask for xbone, xbox 360 and ps3 or ps4 emulation. Highly doubt that would ever exist.
     
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  2. comput3rus3r

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    just buy a 3ds. they're well worth it.
     
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  3. orangpelupa

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    yeah, 3DS GPU also obscure "pica 2k"

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    can someone make car analogy to illustrate how irrelevant that reasoning is?
     
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  4. Fusion

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    And you also are forgetting my friend, that Citra is not even officially ON Android yet, that is unofficial (and untrustworthy imo personally, even citra team said to AVOID for now) which hasn't had any extra work put into it other then port as an emulator, since it's using x86 code. I'm talking about basically a translation of 3ds arm to Switch arm code partly for the CPU, the rest will still need emulation obviously.
     
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  5. Techjunky90

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    If it were that simple, Citra would be running on smart phones and tablets, but it's not that simple & that's why developers haven't bothered
     
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    They haven't bothered because it's easier to develop on x86_64. There aren't even "stable" builds available yet, and of course Citra on PC has a higher priority than a potential Android port.
     
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  7. AshenWolf
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    You're overreacting.
     
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    What is the reason for that?
    Do they just don't have access to that yet or are they still trying to figure out how the switch works entirely?
     
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  9. monkeyman4412

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    The switch hacking scene is still relatively in it's infancy. So it's not that they haven't figured it out, but more either lack of intrest to develop a recompiler, or some important requirements are not met and said requirments are being developed on. Such as having opengl drivers (which was met a while back. But before that emulators only ran in lakka, which was running linux. And I'm using this as as example)
     
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  10. AshenWolf
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    Based on your posts, can I safely assume that switch's hardware can do it? Its just that there are too many hurdles right now on the software side.
     
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  11. FanNintendo

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    Switch Pro coming this summer possible have 3DS core
     
  12. Techjunky90

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    False.
     
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  13. ZachyCatGames

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    Hell
    If a 3ds Retroarch core is practical on the current model, why wouldn’t it be practical on a more powerful model :unsure: (If someone somehow manages to hack it)
     
  14. Techjunky90

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    There is absolutely zero proof of a more powerful switch. All that is known is that Nintendo are doing a revision. Given that the switch is a hybrid, there's a chance Nintendo will release a newer better version, like they did with portables such as ds & 3ds. There's also the possibility that Nintendo does not release a better version, like how they didn't release a newer better N64, GameCube, Wii, Wii U. In reality there is no reason for Nintendo to release a more powerful switch, reason being, Nintendo is not in competition with Sony or Microsoft. It makes sense to do a revision, just to get rid of that exploitable chipset, but that's it. Personally, I can see Nintendo copying Sony & releasing Nintendo TV, a switch built into a dock, no battery, no screen etc. would lower the price drastically.
     
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    Oh, you meant that there may not be a Switch Pro. I misunderstood, my bad
     
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    https://community.citra-emu.org/t/pokemon-x-not-working-only-showing-white-screen-on-android/60611

    Where have they said to avoid it? All they've said is that it's unofficial but are working with that developer. If they were untrustworthy, why would the Citra team be working with them?
     
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    Hum, i think they are gonna make a less powered switch, only portable, no hd vibration etc, so they can take the price low, like to cover the 3ds level.
    Nintendo knows his point is the portable market, hybrid or just portable. Competing again with the same against ps4 and Xbox doesnt have any sense.
     
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    I'd say it's likely to happen eventually, but it took a while for 3DS games to become playable on PC, so it's not likely to happen on Switch for a while as there is no good 3DS emulator for ARM.
     
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  19. Rahkeesh

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    There's zero "proof" of revisions either, just evidence.

    We do have one point of evidence of an enhanced performance switch, the Samurai Spirits presentation that specifically referenced supporting it. Also at least modest improvements seem like a no-brainer if they are moving off of 20 nm given how underclocked the X1 is.

    Not that I expect it to make much difference to 3DS emulation either way.
     
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  20. ZachyCatGames

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    Mariko exist, but it appears to just be a more secure and slightly improved version of what we currently have, it’ll still be a “revision” though ;)
     
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