Digital Foundry details 1080p Nintendo Wii emulation on the Nvidia Shield

pedro702 · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
Prob with that is the more precise parts of levels (like where you have to drag Mario to precise points) will be a royal PITA to pull off

its all matter of getting used to it and maybe some auto aim when close to the pulling things, if you can shoot people while running on fps you can sure hell get used to grab those star things fairly easy.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

pedro702 said:
its all matter of getting used to it and maybe some auto aim when close to the pulling things, if you can shoot people while running on fps you can sure hell get used to grab those star things fairly easy.

IDK, just feels weird to me

pedro702 · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
IDK, just feels weird to me

how is it weird to move with right stick and aim with left stick? that is basicaly used on every aiming games.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

pedro702 said:
how is it weird to move with right stick and aim with left stick? that is basicaly used on every aiming games.

You saw the video for SMG2 right? That part where you have five points and need to drag Mario to get the star, seems like a PITA on the controller.

pedro702 · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
You saw the video for SMG2 right? That part where you have five points and need to drag Mario to get the star, seems like a PITA on the controller.

he himself said one could get used to it, it was his first time doing that.

AtlasFontaine · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
But we also need to keep in mind, the Shield and Switch run at different clock speeds, so I doubt it would run this well on Switch without sacrifices.

Edit: Hopefully more is known at E3.

According to people on switch's lakka thread, the switch cpu runs at stock X1 clock when running on linux (since it seems like the CPU underclock is software based), if that's the case then I doubt Nintendo can't release more higher-perfomance profiles for specific things (gamecube & wii would be one of those) and AFAIK there's already some unused perfomance modes hidden on switch's OS.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

AtlasFontaine said:
According to people on switch's lakka thread, the switch cpu runs at stock X1 clock when running on linux (since it seems like the CPU underclock is software based), if that's the case then I doubt Nintendo can't release more higher-perfomance profiles for specific things (gamecube & wii would be one of those) and AFAIK there's already some unused perfomance modes hidden on switch's OS.

And people think that running it at a higher performance won't make it run hotter or cut the battery life? Because that's what running it at a higher clock speed will do. Not worth running faster speeds and higher temps.

DeletedMember411838 · Jun 8, 2018

comput3rus3r said:
maybe the movement but not the pointer. I still very much like my wiimote+nunchuck setup for many wii games.

I guess you haven't played Splatoon? The Joycons are the better wiimote, the pointer does work

The joycon seemingly uses the same Ideas as Airmice, which Imo work much better than wiimote ever did.

comput3rus3r · Jun 8, 2018

Cyber_Locc said:
I guess you haven't played Splatoon? The Joycons are the better wiimote, the pointer does work.

I haven't. So does the switch also have an ir receiver?

AtlasFontaine · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
And people think that running it at a higher performance won't make it run hotter or cut the battery life? Because that's what running it at a higher clock speed will do. Not worth running faster speeds and higher temps.

Regardless, I haven't heard too many complaints about batery life on a hacked switch running another OS, don't know how would that translate to HorizonOS.

DeletedMember411838 · Jun 8, 2018

comput3rus3r said:
I haven't. So does the switch also have an ir receiver?

It doesn't need it, the gyros in the joycons are like Airmice, they can point without the need for IR. And while we don't have a game that shows the pointer yet, Airmice I have are way more accurate than the wiimote were.

I never liked the wiis IR system, especially as we play alot of our games on our PJ, you ever tried to play Wii with a 120 inch screen? And the IR sensor 3 feet below the center of the screen? It's horrid, the Airmice tech solves that issue.

The pointer tracks via the location of the remote, in a balanced postion, instead of relation to the IR bar.

comput3rus3r · Jun 8, 2018

Cyber_Locc said:
It doesn't need it, the gyros in the joycons are like Airmice, they can point without the need for IR. And while we don't have a game that shows the pointer yet, Airmice I have are way more accurate than the wiimote were.

I never liked the wiis IR system, especially as we play alot of our games on our PJ, you ever tried to play Wii with a 120 inch screen? And the IR sensor 3 feet below the center of the screen? It's horrid, the Airmice tech solves that issue.

The pointer tracks via the location of the remote, in a balanced postion, instead of relation to the IR bar.

so I looked it up.
What's the Point of the Nintendo Switch IR Camera? To pretend to eat a sandwich
The switch has been out for over a year and they've only used the ir for 1 minigame in 1,2 switch.
You would still need an IR receiver if you want to make it actually functional in games like mario galaxy. Hopefully we'll get one in the future.
edit: Nintendo labo also uses it somehow.
but it's definitely not a pointer.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

AtlasFontaine said:
Regardless, I haven't heard too many complaints about batery life on a hacked switch running another OS, don't know how would that translate to HorizonOS.

And heat can be an issue too so...

AtlasFontaine · Jun 8, 2018

comput3rus3r said:
so I looked it up.
What's the Point of the Nintendo Switch IR Camera? To pretend to eat a sandwich
The switch has been out for over a year and they've only used the ir for 1 minigame in 1,2 switch.
You would still need an IR receiver if you want to make it actually functional in games like mario galaxy. Hopefully we'll get one in the future.
edit: Nintendo labo also uses it somehow.
but it's definitely not a pointer.

IIRC switch's port of world of goo already works like that, check it out on youtube.

pedro702 · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
And people think that running it at a higher performance won't make it run hotter or cut the battery life? Because that's what running it at a higher clock speed will do. Not worth running faster speeds and higher temps.

im guessing when docked it will probably run just fine imo the switch barely gets hot as is.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

pedro702 said:
im guessing when docked it will probably run just fine imo the switch barely gets hot as is.

Running a higher clock speed though? I doubt we'll even see this outside of China, no thanks to Nintendo's being afraid of releasing it outside of said region -_-

pedro702 · Jun 8, 2018

the_randomizer said:
Running a higher clock speed though? I doubt we'll even see this outside of China, no thanks to Nintendo's being afraid of releasing it outside of said region -_-

nintendo can probably release a new system update and improve the cpu speed, what makes the switch and most pc,s hot is mostly the gpu, i dont think the cpu will generate much heat tbh, the gpu is the one that makes thing hot as hell, even on shield the gpu clocks down from intense heat while the cpu never does, so yeah using stock x1 speed(not overclock since its stock cpu speed the switch one is the one that is underclocked) wont make much diference, the gpu is the one that generates heat.

the_randomizer · Jun 8, 2018

pedro702 said:
nintendo can probably release a new system update and improve the cpu speed, what makes the switch and most pc,s hot is mostly the gpu, i dont think the cpu will generate much heat tbh, the gpu is the one that makes thing hot as hell, even on shield the gpu clocks down from intense heat while the cpu never does, so yeah using stock x1 speed(not overclock since its stock cpu speed the switch one is the one that is underclocked) wont make much diference, the gpu is the one that generates heat.

Granted, emulators rely almost entirely on CPU more than GPU, but I don't have a lot of hope in seeing their emulator outside of China.

I_AM_L_FORCE · Jun 8, 2018

Even though it was a Chinese or Russian leak of Sun and Moon. Lol

the_randomizer said:
Running a higher clock speed though? I doubt we'll even see this outside of China, no thanks to Nintendo's being afraid of releasing it outside of said region -_-

BlueFox gui · Jun 9, 2018

looks pretty cool

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