Web browers: Google Chrome approaching 30% market share worldwide

Recent reports indicate that Google Chrome now absorbs nearly 30% of the web browser market share worldwide (source). Its main competitors are Internet Explorer with a little over 52% all versions included, and Firefox with now less than 12%.

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In fact, if you exclude Chinese web users (who are usually stuck with old pirated versions of Windows and awful IE-based browsers) the numbers are even more impressive:
1. Google Chrome: > 52%
2. Internet Explorer: > 15%
3. Firefox: > 15%
4. Safari: > 9%
(source)

Things have changed a lot over the past 10 years and it's impressive to realize how much Chrome has changed our browsing habits. What is your opinion on the subject? Do you use Google Chrome yourself? What is the best web browser?
 

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I hate Chrome. Mostly for it's association with the Data Mining giant, Google. It's privacy options are weak, no decent add-ons, no easy way to block scripts. I hate that it seems to track my usage patterns. I hate that it wants me to login to Google. Firefox with no-script, Ad block plus, and JS blocker is all I'll use.

Just an advice, try using ublock origin.
It's like adblock plus, but without the ads whitelist, so even more efficient at blocking ads,
and even it's open-source.
 

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I only prefer firefox because of how it does tabs. Chrome squishing them into teeny tiny slivers when you have too many is infuriatingly stupid. Firefox is a piece of shit though. I always have problems with it, whereas Chrome never gives me any problems. So, not too surprising to see Chrome doing so well.

It hurt my heart to see IE so high on that chart till you explained why, haha.
 
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All the "Chrome is eating all my RAM" nonsense never affected me, in fact, Firefox always used more than Chrome and was infinitely less stable. Chrome wins in my book hands down, its integration with services and add-ons is unbeatable and I have zero concerns with Google collecting data since that collected data provides me with a better, user-targeted browsing experience. It's fast, it's efficient, it's the best browser out there at present.

i hadn't have firefox crash on me in 8 or so years. stuff on chrome crashed, but due to the way its designed, the browser itself doesnt.
also, firefox with 5 tabs open (and about 30 addons active) = 400mb ram
chrome with two tabs (one empty) = 8 processes, using 540mb ram

it seems very random, but thats basically the experience I made on all of my machines so far
 
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i hadn't have firefox crash on me in 8 or so years. stuff on chrome crashed, but due to the way its designed, the browser itself doesnt.
also, firefox with 5 tabs open (and about 30 addons active) = 400mb ram
chrome with two tabs (one empty) = 8 processes, using 540mb ram

it seems very random, but thats basically the experience I made on all of my machines so far
540MB is considered hogging RAM now? Lord have mercy, RAM is cheapest it's ever been, if that footprint is a problem, I dread to think what's in your rig. My phone has 2GB for crying out loud.
Just an advice, try using ublock origin.
It's like adblock plus, but without the ads whitelist, so even more efficient at blocking ads,
and even it's open-source.
Erm, you can opt out of the whitelist, the non-intrusive ads and apply custom filters. Why fix what ain't broken?
 
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540MB is considered hogging RAM now? Lord have mercy, RAM is cheapest it's ever been, if that footprint is a problem, I dread to think what's in your rig. My phone has 2GB for crying out loud.
Erm, you can opt out of the whitelist, the non-intrusive ads and apply custom filters. Why fix what ain't broken?

Because it's just easier to uninstall Adblock and install uBlock Origin than do all you said.
Beside, uBlock is 100% open source, this already make it for me more trustworthy than adblock.
I see no reason to use adblock instead of ublock origin.
 
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Because it's just easier to uninstall Adblock and install uBlock Origin than do all you said.
Easier than two clicks? Because that's how much it takes to enter Adblock Plus' settings and change whatever you want.
Beside, uBlock is 100% open source, this already make it for me more trustworthy than adblock.
Sure, because open source software never fails. Why rely on carefully crafted and protected code when you can run something written by a million monkeys, for all you know. Besides, open source implementation is a disadvantage here since advertisers, y'know, have access to the source code, just like everybody else, making it trivial to circumvent.
I see no reason to use adblock instead of ublock origin.
I see no reason to switch and plenty of reasons against it despite never even using the extension.
 
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Easier than two clicks? Because that's how much it takes to enter Adblock Plus' settings and change whatever you want.
Sure, because open source software never fails. Why rely on carefully crafted and protected code when you can run something written by a million monkeys, for all you know. Besides, open source implementation is a disadvantage here since advertisers, y'know, have access to the source code, just like everybody else, making it trivial to circumvent.
I see no reason to switch and plenty of reasons against it despite never even using the extension.

All you talk is speculation, why don't you just fucking try it before saying shit.
uBlock is more efficient than adBlock Plus, and if you don't believe just test yourself.
There was an extention called Adblock Edge, a fork of adBlock Plus, but you know why it got discontinued?
If not just check what they said:
Discontinued in favor of Ublock Origin, a general purpose blocker,
that not only outperforms Adblock Edge but is also available on other browsers and, of course,
without "Acceptable Ads Whitelist"
 
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All you talk is speculation, why don't you just fucking try it before saying shit.
uBlock is more efficient than adBlock Plus, and if you don't believe just test yourself.
There was an extention called Adblock Edge, a fork of adBlock Plus, but you know why it got discontinued?
If not just check what they said:
Discontinued in favor of Ublock Origin, a general purpose blocker,
that not only outperforms Adblock Edge but is also available on other browsers and, of course,
without "Acceptable Ads Whitelist"
...which again, you can disable before you finish saying "blueberry pies are great", and that's not speculation.

https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads#optout

All you're saying is nice and dandy, but at the end of the day you can turn the non-intrusive aka "acceptable ads" setting off within seconds. You're complaining about something that can be fixed with one checkbox.
 
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...which again, you can disable before you finish saying "blueberry pies are great", and that's not speculation.

https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads#optout

All you're saying is nice and dandy, but at the end of the day you can turn the non-intrusive aka "acceptable ads" setting off within seconds. You're complaining about something that can be fixed with one checkbox.

When I mentioned that it was opensource there was only one thing in my mind, trust.
They're opensource, which means that everything they use is avaiable and everyone can see,
it means there certainly isn't some obscure code running on background while I'm browsing.
Can I guarantee that with adBlock Plus? No. The fact that there is a whitelist on adBlock Plus
is reason enough for me not to trust in it.
Beside, why don't you just try uBlock Origin before talking about it.
I used adBlock for so long I can't remember, and I started using uBlock Origin recently,
so far I see no reason to go back to adBlock Plus.
 

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It's worrisome to see so many using Chrome. Mozilla's changing their extension system to mimic Chrome, even, which is going to alienate a lot of their users. A monopoly on browsers is not a good thing, and it'll result in abuse on Google's behalf. They have a vested interest in people's habits, personal information, and advertising. Chrome already listens for "Okay Google" on your microphone; how long before "anonymous" information is always shared with Google? Chrome is spyware, and Mozilla is willingly gimping its browser to follow suit...

It's sad that if Mozilla screws up their browser, there won't be any suitable browsers anymore. Webkit is an okay engine, but nothing matches the flexibility that Firefox has. Without the ability to protect my privacy and secure myself from ad networks and endless information gathering, I may have to skip out on 99% of my web browsing altogether.

There's always elinks or other browsers that can't do ECMAScript, I guess. Then selectively allow cookies, and that might get you somewhere approaching privacy in conjuction with a proxy or VPN.

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Easier than two clicks? Because that's how much it takes to enter Adblock Plus' settings and change whatever you want.
Sure, because open source software never fails. Why rely on carefully crafted and protected code when you can run something written by a million monkeys, for all you know. Besides, open source implementation is a disadvantage here since advertisers, y'know, have access to the source code, just like everybody else, making it trivial to circumvent.
I see no reason to switch and plenty of reasons against it despite never even using the extension.

The person you replied to was talking about trustworthiness. When you have access to source code, you can audit it and verify that it does what it says it does. Proprietary software can't (easily or legally) be inspected and verified, and in the case of an ad blocker could easily be bribed by advertisers. Trust is a big deal when dealing with software that's supposed to protect you, and that's a big reason why security or privacy software tends to be libre software; it can be inspected and verified. If any holes are found, they can be quickly patched. This is one of the key reasons that encryption algorithms are publicly published: to make sure there aren't any vulnerabilities.

As for advertisers circumventing adblockers, I have yet to see it done. As soon as one does it, their method gets added to the list of filters and they must continue to find other methods. In the event an ad-blocker's not enough, there's not much you can do to stop it at the DNS level. A user that intends on viewing the Web without ads *will* find a way, and there's nothing ad networks can do about it.

EDIT: Cool, my double-post was merged. I was worried about that; good to see the software corrects it automatically!
 
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When I mentioned that it was opensource there was only one thing in my mind, trust.
They're opensource, which means that everything they use is avaiable and everyone can see,
it means there certainly isn't some obscure code running on background while I'm browsing.
Can I guarantee that with adBlock Plus? No. The fact that there is a whitelist on adBlock Plus
is reason enough for me not to trust in it.
Beside, why don't you just try uBlock Origin before talking about it.
I used adBlock for so long I can't remember, and I started using uBlock Origin recently,
so far I see no reason to go back to adBlock Plus.
You also can't guarantee that with Windows, yet it continues to be the no.1 OS for PC users because of one simple reason - it's well-adopted. I don't have to switch because ABP is working and has been working for years, that's all I need to verify. I don't understand the compulsion to assume that code is malicious if you can't read the source code - the great majority of the open source circle jerk army can't even read source code in whatever language, they just want to have the veneer of open source warriors. Closed source isn't bad nor is it untrustworthy - what's trustworthy is an extension that keeps working year after year after year with zero issues.
It's worrisome to see so many using Chrome. Mozilla's changing their extension system to mimic Chrome, even, which is going to alienate a lot of their users. A monopoly on browsers is not a good thing, and it'll result in abuse on Google's behalf. They have a vested interest in people's habits, personal information, and advertising. Chrome already listens for "Okay Google" on your microphone; how long before "anonymous" information is always shared with Google? Chrome is spyware, and Mozilla is willingly gimping its browser to follow suit...
That's the stupidest thing I've heard today. If you're confusing voice commands for spying, you need anxiety medication. Same goes for data collection which has nothing to do with spying and everything to do with targeted search results - when I search for Pizza Hut, I want the one next door to my present location pop up at the top of the list because I value convenience.

As for browser dominance, I have no problems with one leading the pack - it motivates others to improve. This isn't the first time Google steamrolls over the competition, Android did the same with iOS and Windows Mobile, the latter of which doesn't even exist anymore.
 
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No matter what browser, operating system, or behavior you enforce online, companies will always get your information.
Might as well give up and enjoy the benefits of having your personal information stored online.
 
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540MB is considered hogging RAM now? Lord have mercy, RAM is cheapest it's ever been, if that footprint is a problem, I dread to think what's in your rig. My phone has 2GB for crying out loud.
Erm, you can opt out of the whitelist, the non-intrusive ads and apply custom filters. Why fix what ain't broken?

that's not the argument we're having. chrome is hogging more ram than firefox is (unless i go to pixiv for an hour, but chrome doesn't do too well with pixiv either) and it easily reaches a gb when i open more tabs.

ram is cheap as its ever been but that's not helping me when its soldered in and can't be upped in my laptop.
 
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that's not the argument we're having. chrome is hogging more ram than firefox is (unless i go to pixiv for an hour, but chrome doesn't do too well with pixiv either) and it easily reaches a gb when i open more tabs.

ram is cheap as its ever been but that's not helping me when its soldered in and can't be upped in my laptop.
I've got two tabs open in Chrome right now, one with my gmail, one with this thread, and Chrome's using 50MB of RAM. I'd say that's not a huge amount.
 

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