DS #3468: 7th Dragon (Japan)

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ah darn
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i was hoping for a retro mode, it be good to play games in goold old gameboy color, esp since my old gameboy-color is broken
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Sorry to disappoint, but it needed to be debunked before it got out of hand. Apparently the art was done for a competition last month or something.

It would have been a neat novelty, but I don't mind the game as it is. It's certainly attractive and has a unique, almost Earthbound-like art style. And I like color, despite being a loving b/w gameboy fan.

Apparently this game DOES have some sort of 8-bit soundtrack in it. Not sure what it is or how to get it.

http://toastyfrog.com/verbalspew/archives/entry_1144.php
 

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deathfisaro said:
Jap is not a proper abbreviation for Japan or Japanese. There are Japanese people in the forum. One of the "forum-trolling dickweeds" is just being considerate.
Being politically correct seems to be a big thing down there, but you have a problem with calling Japanese people politically correctly? What's that, human rights moving backwards?

I'm sorry.... I didn't know that..... My friends and I have always been using the term 'jap' so i got used to it
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By the way, does this game have any language barrier? Because I don't understand a single word of Japanese....
 

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deathfisaro said:
Jap is not a proper abbreviation for Japan or Japanese. There are Japanese people in the forum. One of the "forum-trolling dickweeds" is just being considerate.
Being politically correct seems to be a big thing down there, but you have a problem with calling Japanese people politically correctly? What's that, human rights moving backwards?
That's a not entirely accurate. Some Japanese-Americans consider it a slur, but it is widely-used in Singapore and Hong Kong as a contraction of 'japanese' with no other connotations. Many international news services and businesses likewise use it freely, and in Japan itself few people care -- some Japanese businesses even use it in various contexts.

In other words, by attacking people on the internet for using a term that may be perfectly inoffensive in their countries, you are actually taking a fairly culturally insensitive position yourself; you are insisting that the entire world accept U.S. standards and U.S. English meanings instead of their own. This is comparable to insisting that, for instance, the British should not use the word 'fags' to refer to sticks or cigarettes.

Notice that x.domination, above, is from Singapore -- in his country 'Jap' has no negative connotations. Are you saying that his country must defer to U.S. interpretations and U.S. meanings when using words?
 

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yup, i been using jap for such a long time, and i didn't know that it has racist meaning to it, so for now, i am trying to switch over to typing japanese language instead.

@granville: ya, that was my first impression, i thought i was playing cave story and etrian odyssey mixed together, i mean it is pretty obvious where certain elements of the game comes from
 

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Agreed, Jap is a reference for the Japanese. It is just a shorter way of saying 'Japanese'. People in the U.K. use it too. It is not meant to be offensive in anyway.
 

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Hillsy_ said:
Agreed, Jap is a reference for the Japanese. It is just a shorter way of saying 'Japanese'. People in the U.K. use it too. It is not meant to be offensive in anyway.
its considered "offensive" in the way that it was used during WW2 and the kinds of connotations placed upon it by American propagnda at the time. its just that those sentiments are still carried over into todays society
 

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Raven Darkheart said:
its just that those sentiments are still carried over into todays society
And now apparently it is being propagated by folks who have absolutely no direct ties to things that occurred during that time... I take personal offense to the limitations of my rights of expression, be it an innocent abbreviation or a statement of personal opinion - certain things can be found in the constitution for a good reason. I think a listing of offensive/banned terms and an explanation of exactly why they are offensive/banned would be a very good thing to link from the site rules, as such explanations would mitigate most of my personal offense to being a part of a (more and more?) censored community and explain these things to folks who would innocently use them without knowing they are being enforced in any way shape or form.

On that note, I'm a Cad, from CDN, living in Canada. About the only way I'd take offense to either of those innocuous abbreviations is if the statement surrounding it referred to some embarassing or hurtful historical context rather than... a bloody game. You know, I was willing to keep this to myself and meekly walk on not using said "offensive" term but I really wanted to know what you folks thought of this game (ie: 7th dragon, remember the topic?) and whether anyone had found out if it was going to any regions beyond JPN (sure hope so! looks good, thanks to those who post screenies and vids!)... but then I came across this debate mingling with the discussion here {insert: polite request to moderators to move this stuff off to the edge if not off to oblivion, perhaps see if someone would be willing to do the above for the site rules, and perhaps remind folks that it is the moderators place to deal with such things and folks should use the report button instead of 'policing by posting'}. Food for thought.

Anyway, thanks Ruri for some common sense - time to toss another fag on the fireplace.
 

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cory1492 said:
Raven Darkheart said:
its just that those sentiments are still carried over into todays society
And now apparently it is being propagated by folks who have absolutely no direct ties to things that occurred during that time... I take personal offense to the limitations of my rights of expression, be it an innocent abbreviation or a statement of personal opinion - certain things can be found in the constitution for a good reason. I think a listing of offensive/banned terms and an explanation of exactly why they are offensive/banned would be a very good thing to link from the site rules, as such explanations would mitigate most of my personal offense to being a part of a (more and more?) censored community and explain these things to folks who would innocently use them without knowing they are being enforced in any way shape or form.

On that note, I'm a Cad, from CDN, living in Canada. About the only way I'd take offense to either of those innocuous abbreviations is if the statement surrounding it referred to some embarassing or hurtful historical context rather than... a bloody game. You know, I was willing to keep this to myself and meekly walk on not using said "offensive" term but I really wanted to know what you folks thought of this game (ie: 7th dragon, remember the topic?) and whether anyone had found out if it was going to any regions beyond JPN (sure hope so! looks good, thanks to those who post screenies and vids!)... but then I came across this debate mingling with the discussion here {insert: polite request to moderators to move this stuff off to the edge if not off to oblivion, perhaps see if someone would be willing to do the above for the site rules, and perhaps remind folks that it is the moderators place to deal with such things and folks should use the report button instead of 'policing by posting'}. Food for thought, reporting my own post and hoping I don't get banned for the request.

Anyway, thanks Ruri for some common sense - time to toss another fag on the fireplace.
i agree with everything that you say. i was just pointing out the reason why so many people flinch at the term
 

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cory1492 said:
On that note, I'm a Cad, from CDN, living in Canada. About the only way I'd take offense to either of those innocuous abbreviations is if the statement surrounding it referred to some embarassing or hurtful historical context rather than... a bloody game.

Damned Canuck. Puckhead. Angie or Beaver-beater.
Man, the slurs for Canadians SUCK.

I'm only writing because while "jap" certainly can have some lingering stigma to a limited group, I don't know how many women would like to be called "broads" (it's in the thread).
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Here's a list if you want to be really careful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_slur

Anyway...I agree on retro mode, though I think I'd get annoyed with it sooner rather than later. And I do get tired of all these cool-looking games being Japanese-only. How come Japan never gets exclusive whateverz games? They could have had Homiez Rollerz. I wouldn't have asked for a localization of that. I know they do get some local-only crap games, but not like we Yanks do.

This one looks cool.
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Anyone have a list of the major translation projects that actually bore fruit?
 

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lavalamp said:
cory1492 said:
On that note, I'm a Cad, from CDN, living in Canada. About the only way I'd take offense to either of those innocuous abbreviations is if the statement surrounding it referred to some embarassing or hurtful historical context rather than... a bloody game.

Damned Canuck. Puckhead. Angie or Beaver-beater.
Man, the slurs for Canadians SUCK.

I'm only writing because while "jap" certainly can have some lingering stigma to a limited group, I don't know how many women would like to be called "broads" (it's in the thread).
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Here's a list if you want to be really careful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_slur

Anyway...I agree on retro mode, though I think I'd get annoyed with it sooner rather than later. And I do get tired of all these cool-looking games being Japanese-only. How come Japan never gets exclusive whateverz games? They could have had Homiez Rollerz. I wouldn't have asked for a localization of that. I know they do get some local-only crap games, but not like we Yanks do.

This one looks cool.
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Anyone have a list of the major translation projects that actually bore fruit?

Theres a BIG HUGE sticky right on the translation forum...
 

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-Mew- said:
Theres a BIG HUGE sticky right on the translation forum...

You mean the hentai forum.
Thanks, though. I'm a dumbass and didn't even know there was a translation forum.
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Okay, I'm guilty of saying broad, but in my defense I used it like a child would... didn't know the meaning exactly but the word has a nice ring to it...

For the record broad wasn't originaly a derogative term. It was actually used to refer to a pretty or beautiful woman and it was considered a compliment in the late 30's. So me using doesn't mean I'm sexist, just that I'm a misinformed 90 year old! [It's not like I used c*nt or anything...]
 

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NO ONE in this thread meant JAP in a offensive way so just drop the PC bullsh!t

Along time ago the abbreviations for the regions were USA JAP AND EUR alot of people still say JAP

they changed it now though
 

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damn straight it does
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the only reason why i am playing this
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other then the cool looking cave story like characters and pixels
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By the way, does anyone knows what is the 3rd beginner quest? i saw something something bridge? so am i supposed to go over to the next town or?
 

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I hate to admit it, but I checked this out because of the Samurai class as well... same with Disgaea. It's just so satisfying about being able to choose something instead of a normal fantasy warrior or knight or whatever.

About the third quest, I'm not sure exactly which one people are talking about, but if it's the 2 stars quest, then yeah, you do need to go to the town all the way to the east to complete it. Sorry I can't give specifics, I'm worrying more about when some giant overleveled monster is going to come out and stop this game from being fun.
 

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