Hacking FakeDetector & FakeRecovery_v1.16a

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ricky23i said:
Can I use an M3 real to boot the fixer then insert the fake TTDS/DSTT?


see above Edit ..it will not work .....


Just use your TTDS card put the 1.15 kernel on and do the recovery
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you may want to backup any games and saves you have on there just in case but you don't have to
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You don't have to have a working flashcart, if you put this firmware on it http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=3603

the affected carts should be able to boot after a few attempts with the bricker 1.16 firmware, other firmwares don't ?seem? to boot at all on the bricked dstt's, so use the one linked above.. it should boot sucessfully in under 50 attempts,lol

then once the cart has booted to the normal dstt menu just run the recovery.nds file, make sure to have the firmware .bin file on the mem card too.

of course once the re-flash has been done, do not boot the dstt with the 'bricker' 1.16 on it, change the firmware straight away.


This got mine going.


For those using a good card to swap with i don't know if using 1.16 firmware to boot with is necessary, I would of thought that the recovery.nds could be run from any firmware.
 

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rajendra82 said:
This is total speculation on my part as to how this software does the recovery

It works because it simply reflashes the TTDS chip's (eprom) software with the uncorrupted .bin file (dump) thats in the recovery files
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Hello,

I wrote this tutorial for people who have a clone (fake) DSTT which stopped working after they updated their DSTT's with firmware 1.16 .

You'll need this: Fake/clone DSTT , Real (Genuine) DSTT (or any other working flashcard), MicroSD .


1. Download the recovery files HERE
2. Open DSTTRecovery.exe .
3. Fill in the path of your MicroSD, e.g. G: of E: , and click ''Install''
4. The files who will be needed to recover your DSTT will be placed on the MicroSD.
5. Put your MicroSD in a REAL (Genuine) DSTT, turn on your NDS and start ''FakeRecovery.nds'' .
6. The Recovery Utility will load things, this can take a while. After it's done loading it will ask you, to put your Fake DSTT in your NDS.
7. After you put your fake DSTT into your NDS you must press ''A'' , after a few secs it asks you to press ''A'' another time.
8. If the flashing is succeeded you'll see a message on your screen that the recovery was successful

Note : There doesn't have to be a MicroSD in your fake card.

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@MUDKiP you don't have to have an original/none fake TTDS card you can use the corrupted TTDS card
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nice addition to the thread though for those who are still unsure of what to do the auto installer is a nice touch
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Some people have reported that their damaged fake DSTT's won't load up at all, which means that you'd need a working cart to run the .nds file.

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Bri said:
Some people have reported that their damaged fake DSTT's won't load up at all, which means that you'd need a working cart to run the .nds file.

-Bri


not good
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the ones that I fixed were intermittent not permanent.... I would say 1 in about every 5 or 6 loads it didn't load correctly .. ghosting or just the lower screen loading they just took a few reloads to get it to load normally where I could load the recovery nds
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maby someone could figure out how to hack the fix to work on ANY CARD so they can perform the swap to the damaged one
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I'm a little surprised that you can't use other types of flash carts to repair a damaged DSTT. It seems like the .nds file should run on any flash cart unless it's actually copying files from the working DSTT's "TTMENU" folder.

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I guess the nds file checks for a dstt a startup so it needs to be run on one.... anyway

About the intermittent dstt's (i have fixed one without a good cart), it would only boot using the bricker firmware 1.16 occasionally, any other firmwares it simply refused to ever start up, no matter how many times I tried. I think this behaviour if it's correct needs to observed for people who think they may of been bricked.... try the first 1.16 firmware, linked above, and see if occasionally (1 in 30 attempts say) it will boot. If it does you should be able to fix it with the recovery procedure, without needing a fully working dstt.

There was another member on these boards who observed this behaviour with bricked dstt's and it was from his post I realised I needed to have the dodgey 1.16 firmware on to be able to boot at all... can't remember the nick tho.
 

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Bri said:
I'm a little surprised that you can't use other types of flash carts to repair a damaged DSTT. It seems like the .nds file should run on any flash cart unless it's actually copying files from the working DSTT's "TTMENU" folder.

-Bri


ok more Testing ...

RESULT!!! other cards it does work!

you really MUST PUT THEM IN THE ROOT FOLDER DOH!!!

You need the FAKERECOVERY.nds file and the DSTTDUMP.bin in the root of your mem card!

and run them from the ROOT of your memcard with whatever SLOT 1 flash card you are using!

works with R4/NPLAYER/M3 REAL and AK2.1

just remember SWAP SLOT 1 CARDS to the broken TTDS card you could KILL your card if you forget to swap!

you have been warned!
 

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Cool. Thanks for checking on that, kobykaan. Definitely good to know, but your warning should definitely be heeded since there's probably little if any checking to make sure you have a DSTT inserted (rather than some other flash cart) after you press that "A" button!

BTW, you can probably put "FAKERECOVERY.nds" anywhere you want (the NDS has no way of distinguishing where a .nds file is run from), but the "DSTTDUMP.bin" would have to go on the root or it won't find it.

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ok results time.

using a REAL DSTT, I put the recovery nds file on the root, along with the fake detector and the DSTTDUMP.bin using official firm 1.16. booted the REAL DSTT, loaded fake detector. When prompted, I swapped FAKE 1 in and it verifies it was a fake. Rebooted REAL card, loaded recovery nds file. Swapped the Fake when prompted with no memory card in the FAKE . Used a new memory card with the fake v1.17A loader, and it booted just fine.

Now, I did everything with my second non-working card. The detector said my second card was "true", which i think means real. Yet this card does not load at all. When in a DS, the card does not autoboot, it just loads the DS as if normal, and the DS does not detect the DSTT. Its as if there is no cart in. I tried using the recovery NDS file anyways, but it said it was unable too. (I think the recovery nds file only works on fake DSTTs, but not 100% sure.) So I have a "REAL" Dstt that does not load at all, anyone have any clues on this, or did DSTT number 2 just die on me?
 

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mega man x said:
ok results time.

using a REAL DSTT, I put the recovery nds file on the root, along with the fake detector and the DSTTDUMP.bin using official firm 1.16. booted the REAL DSTT, loaded fake detector. When prompted, I swapped FAKE 1 in and it verifies it was a fake. Rebooted REAL card, loaded recovery nds file. Swapped the Fake when prompted with no memory card in the FAKE . Used a new memory card with the fake v1.17A loader, and it booted just fine.

Now, I did everything with my second non-working card. The detector said my second card was "true", which i think means real. Yet this card does not load at all. When in a DS, the card does not autoboot, it just loads the DS as if normal, and the DS does not detect the DSTT. Its as if there is no cart in. I tried using the recovery NDS file anyways, but it said it was unable too. (I think the recovery nds file only works on fake DSTTs, but not 100% sure.) So I have a "REAL" Dstt that does not load at all, anyone have any clues on this, or did DSTT number 2 just die on me?

The second flashcart sounds like it is genuine, but faulty. The fake recovery program can't fix that. Have you opened it to see if it is a genuine DSTT like the program says it is?
 

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As rajendra82 said, your description of the second one sounds like a contact problem. So it's probably real or else the contact problem is causing the detector to give a false positive. Either way, trying to restore it won't fix the problem you described.

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The cart does not match any real or fake pic that I've seen. It died on me after I put v1.16 and Chrono Trigger on it. I played CT for over 7 hours on the cart before it stopped loading with the symptoms of the fake carts.
 

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Post a picture of it (preferably opened). How old is the flash cart? The symptoms you posted (going to the NDS menu instead of autobooting) are not indicative of a fake -- they are indicative of contact problems.

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mega man x said:
I just find it funny that the fake tester actually reads the cart, yet the DS doesnt

that does not make any sense at all !?

the DS is reading the mem card obviously as it can use the fake detector and the detector is an NDS file that no doubt you are running from the TTDS menu!?


so which is correct !? its working or its not working??

and if its not how are you even running the fake detector !?

1.17 kernel is from the fake/clone ttds advance card

you need to be running the 1.15 kernel files!
 

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mega man x said:
I just find it funny that the fake tester actually reads the cart, yet the DS doesnt

Or giving a false positive. Maybe if it can't read the cart it tells you it's real by default. We don't know how the detector works or what kind of error checking it does.

QUOTE(kobykaan @ Dec 23 2008, 04:37 PM) that does not make any sense at all !?

the DS is reading the mem card obviously as it can use the fake detector and the detector is an NDS file that no doubt you are running from the TTDS menu!?

He's running the fake detector program from a real cart that doesn't have contact problems. He then switches in the cart with the contact problems and the detector is reporting that the cart with the contact problems is real.

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MUDKiP said:
Hello,

I wrote this tutorial for people who have a clone (fake) DSTT which stopped working after they updated their DSTT's with firmware 1.16 .


...why have you included a hidden 4.11mb mp3 file in your self extracting rar file?

Yann Tiersen - Amelie - 04 - Comptine d'Un Autre Ete .mp3

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are you sharing this on your collectors acct and trying to get you bigger download hits!?

suggest remove it as its no doubt copyright anyhow and make the file smaller compressed with winzip its just 2.097mb

saving almost 3mb! pn your 5.609mb original file!

QUOTEHe's running the fake detector program from a real cart that doesn't have contact problems. He then switches in the cart with the contact problems and the detector is reporting that the cart with the contact problems is real.

-Bri

ok i get that but still it must be making sufficient contact for it to read/get connection from the ds to read the card to give a result surely?
 

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