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Rockstar is helping in killing physical media... GTA 6 physical copies won't have a disc. Code in a Box.

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SunBleachd said:
Honestly as much as I doubt this will be the case, I kind of hope that GTA 6 will not live up to the hype.
I'm about to say something very unique and niche so bear with me but I'm so fucking tired of every faucet of life now a days just being over run by corporate greed, and eagerly await the day that all these companies will start to bleed money and are forced to actually make decisions that show respect to the very people that are buying and funding them in the first place.
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There are too much lowbrow plain shit eaters. Maybe have backlash from a group that suddenly grew some eyes, like with Starfield, but even this game was successful enough and had a lot of Stockholm defenders.
 
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MrQQ said:
Lots of words to end up wrong. Again you are talking about something you are clueless about. How does one split an encrypted xvd package over 3 discs and maintain the encryption? You are all so eager to say " well they could split it voer 3-4 discs" ehhh no....that isnt how it works
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You're inventing problems and making up excuses for companies' shitty behavior. This is really not that hard to figure out. If previous consoles were able to figure it out then modern consoles should be able to as well. They can simply package it as main game + update or main game + DLC. It doesn't need to be a single package.
 
GTA6 was always gonna do insane pre-order numbers, if people didn't give a shit that the price of essentially the base game is $100, they certainly weren't gonna give a shit about digital only. That's why it's not Rockstar but Sony that's primarily to blame for killing physical games, they shouldn't have been using this particular game as a bellwether to begin with. Not to mention that they created disc-based media (in collaboration with other companies) in the first place, so they also ultimately control the timing of its demise.
 
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The Real Jdbye said:
You're inventing problems and making up excuses for companies' shitty behavior. This is really not that hard to figure out. If previous consoles were able to figure it out then modern consoles should be able to as well. They can simply package it as main game + update or main game + DLC. It doesn't need to be a single package.
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Except it does as this is the entire premise as to why games are packaged in containers that are encrypted now. You are clueless as to how games are actually pressed and made so why comment? I also noticed you didnt answer my question. How does one split an encrypted container and maintain that? I will answer it for you! Its not possible due to how the encryption was implemented. Having multiple packages doesnt get around that issue
 
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Except it does as this is the entire premise as to why games are packaged in containers that are encrypted now. You are clueless as to how games are actually pressed and made so why comment? I also noticed you didnt answer my question. How does one split an encrypted container and maintain that? I will answer it for you! Its not possible due to how the encryption was implemented. Having multiple packages doesnt get around that issue
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Game and update data/DLC can be separated. There's no reason they can't. When you download a digital game they are separate.
 
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Game and update data/DLC can be separated. There's no reason they can't. When you download a digital game they are separate.
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Does that take care of my original point?? noooo. It cannot be done or split due to encryption. Dlc/updates sure....so i will ask again....how does one split a massive 200gb package over two blu rays and maintain said encryption? I will answer for you again....it is not possible! You are at this point being ignorant in the face of facts!
 
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Does that take care of my original point?? noooo. It cannot be done or split due to encryption. Dlc/updates sure....so i will ask again....how does one split a massive 200gb package over two blu rays and maintain said encryption? I will answer for you again....it is not possible! You are at this point being ignorant in the face of facts!
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It's not one package though. Updates and DLC are separate packages. You split the game into the "base game" on one disc, and the other discs contains the rest of the files masquerading as update/DLC content. Then you install them one by one. Are you even reading my posts? I don't know how I could make this any clearer for you. Your entire assumption that it has to be one package is wrong. This is already a solved problem. Within the very update/DLC system itself, which has worked the same way for generations, is the solution.
 
Reploid said:
There are too much lowbrow plain shit eaters. Maybe have backlash from a group that suddenly grew some eyes, like with Starfield, but even this game was successful enough and had a lot of Stockholm defenders.
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yea fair enough... a man can dream.
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MrQQ said:
Lots of words to end up wrong. Again you are talking about something you are clueless about. How does one split an encrypted xvd package over 3 discs and maintain the encryption? You are all so eager to say " well they could split it voer 3-4 discs" ehhh no....that isnt how it works
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I don't know much of what that means but aren't there examples of modern games being split among multiple cd's such as Baldur's Gate 3? If they could do it, I'm sure Rockstar can too.
 
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SunBleachd said:
yea fair enough... a man can dream.
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I don't know much of what that means but aren't there examples of modern games being split among multiple cd's such as Baldur's Gate 3? If they could do it, I'm sure Rockstar can too.
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Yes and its not just modern it has been done since the PS1 era with like the FInal Fantasy trio on the hardware. Gamecube did it due to the idiotic paranoia made 1.5GB mini dvds too with the REsident Evil games, MGS, Tales of Symphonia. The modern hardware, PS I know has a few multidisc games, don't recall which but saw people discussing it with examples.

There's no reason why it could not be done other than not wanting to and being control freaks with excuses to push digital harder. I could see it being a costly nightmare with like 2x switch 2 cards, but optical doesn't cost crap comparatively.
 
I honestly think the biggest reason Rockstar going this route is Piracy and Leaks. With digital, they can track every single digital game copy issued, and know there's no way anyone is playing it early. Even when it comes to PC in the next year or so, it gonna be digital also/maybe, or have serial numbers embedded on disks like MS does, then it require online license verification of sorts. So I see this as they're way of trying to fight Piracy mostly, not them just being dicks withholding physical.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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BigOnYa said:
I honestly think the biggest reason Rockstar going this route is Piracy and Leaks. With digital, they can track every single digital game copy issued, and know there's no way anyone is playing it early. Even when it comes to PC in the next year or so, it gonna be digital, n require online license verification of sorts. So I see this as they're way of trying to fight Piracy mostly, not them just being dicks withholding physical.
Just my 2 cents.
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EVEN on PC - let's be honest, after 5. MOST people are gonna get it for GTA Online over the main single player thing and that's where piracy is thwarted automatically with all those checks. Physicals with unique keys - even if someone cracks em, if cracked key isn't registering with the server then its an automatic ban like Nintenderp been doing with USB cables for Swatch 2. That probelm's been solved for a while.

Like I said before, good single player games are more than welcome, but the only real way to combat piracy is adding enticing online features like co-op at the least that will require server key check and that's that.

Otherwise just launching on consoles that are predominantly for the mouth-breather public will net sales if kept exclusive to long enough. It's like big movies in the theaters - Hollywoo studios don't ever count on DVD revenue to ROI their budgets spent - it's all about quality, hype, and theatrical runs.
 
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