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Trump is the most corrupt US president in history

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"So [you’re] not concerned about the appearance of corruption with this?”
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[Trump]: “I can’t say, because– I can’t say– I’m not concerned. I don’t— I’d rather not have you ask the question. But I let you ask it. You just came to me and you said, ‘Can I ask another question?’ And I said, yeah. ... I don’t mind. Did I let you do it? I coulda walked away. I didn’t have to answer this question. I’m proud to answer the question.”
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In a normal presidency, I think if I told you this is from November, it would be obvious which scandal is being referred to. I mean, can you imagine having so many allegations of corruption that people lose track?

Spoilers for the curious: Trump pardoning a crypto CEO convicted of helping ISIS and Hamas launder money, shortly after said CEO's company invested $2 billion into (one of) Trump's crypto projects.

This is from an interview where Trump stated that he didn't know anything about him, just that "good people" (his lobbyists) said he should be pardoned.
Some of these lobbyists also work directly for the Trump crypto project used in the deal.
 
Here's Todd Blanche literally saying the president is allowed to pardon anyone, no matter th blatant corruption, self dealing, quid-pro-quo, etc.

Blanche: Who the president chooses to pardon is not a problem, period.

Ivey: what's the legal basis for that statement?

Blanche: The Constitution

Ivey: The Constitution does not give him the authority to pardon in exchange for payments. It does not permit bribery.

Blanche: Yes it does (Interrupting Ivey while trying to give the president blanket pardon power no matter the blatant quid-pro-quo).

The US continues to flush itself down the toilet, and the world is watching.
 
SeltzerMist said:
He's gonna duck out again
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Highly possible. But I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

To say there were some "real doozies" would mean that he had more than one hugely corrupt things that a president has done directly in mind.

I couldn't find anything that came close, so I wanted to see if his are comparible, false equivalencies, or he's just saying that in hopes that over 250 years something worse may have happened.
 
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Here's Todd Blanche literally saying the president is allowed to pardon anyone, no matter th blatant corruption, self-dealing, quid-pro-quo, etc.

Blanche: Who the president chooses to pardon is not a problem, period.

Ivey: What's the legal basis for that statement?

Blanche: The Constitution

Ivey: The Constitution does not give him the authority to pardon in exchange for payments. It does not permit bribery.

Blanche: Yes it does (Interrupting Ivey while trying to give the president blanket pardon power no matter the blatant quid-pro-quo).

The US continues to flush itself down the toilet, and the world is watching.
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Yup watching from the outside it's a proper horror show happening in the states
 
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DiscostewSM said:
If the US were more like Albania in terms of dealing with politics.....

Not saying the US should be just like Albania in general, but they are going beyond friendly protests.
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Oh, is that the protests about the private island? Sounds like they know how to deal with Trump family members.
 
titan_tim said:
Oh, is that the protests about the private island? Sounds like they know how to deal with Trump family members.
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Not so much a private island, but the uninhabited island of Sazan that is part of protected ecological land, along with the Zvërnec peninsula. The Albanian parliament changed the law to allow it, claiming it was for the benefit of tourism. The citizens of Albania have other ideas to deal with the sellout, including violence and arson.
 
Hanafuda said:
Sure. They're all corrupt to an extent and Trump's no exception. "Most corrupt?" US Presidential history has some real doozies, so I think that's a bit hyperbolic but I'm not here to argue. Whether you like him, hate him, or you're ambivalent and just thought he was the better of bad options, this too shall pass.
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So you've had some time to present these "Doozies". Is there anything that comes to mind? You said it as if examples directly came to mind when talking about US presidential corruption. I was asking in good faith to learn if others had been equally or more blatantly corrupt to be less ignorant on American history.

If there really aren't examples, then it makes the original claim that Trump is the most corrupt US president much less hyperbolic, and just objective reality.

If you prefer to stay silent on the matter, then you can live with that newly learned (or willfully ignored) reality.
 
titan_tim said:
So you've had some time to present these "Doozies". Is there anything that comes to mind? You said it as if examples directly came to mind when talking about US presidential corruption. I was asking in good faith to learn if others had been equally or more blatantly corrupt to be less ignorant on American history.

If there really aren't examples, then it makes the original claim that Trump is the most corrupt US president much less hyperbolic, and just objective reality.

If you prefer to stay silent on the matter, then you can live with that newly learned (or willfully ignored) reality.
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Told ya in that last post that I'm not here to argue/debate anymore. I did reply to a post from Ansem about Megyn Kelly :shit:, but it wasn't argumentative and it wasn't an invitation. You want to talk video games, find me elsewhere on the forum.
 
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Here's Todd Blanche literally saying the president is allowed to pardon anyone, no matter th blatant corruption, self dealing, quid-pro-quo, etc.

Blanche: Who the president chooses to pardon is not a problem, period.

Ivey: what's the legal basis for that statement?

Blanche: The Constitution

Ivey: The Constitution does not give him the authority to pardon in exchange for payments. It does not permit bribery.

Blanche: Yes it does (Interrupting Ivey while trying to give the president blanket pardon power no matter the blatant quid-pro-quo).

The US continues to flush itself down the toilet, and the world is watching.
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Always worth mentioning that Todd Blanche, the interim US Attorney General, is also Trump's personal attorney.
 
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im not so sure about that.
he is pretty horrendous but with him its that he is not even trying to hide it, all the other presidents had the common decency to be crooks in secret, he does it in plain sight.
is he the worst president?
Yeah, i think so, but without a lot more data on the others that came before its hard to judge if he is really the most corrupt.

remember that a lot of US presidents were slave owners, thats kinda tough to beat.
 
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Nakamichi said:
im not so sure about that.
he is pretty horrendous but with him its that he is not even trying to hide it, all the other president had the common decency to be crooks in secret, he does it in plain sight.
is he the worst president?
Yeah, i think so, but without a lot more data on the others that came before its hard to judge if he is really the most corrupt.

remember that a lot of US presidents were slave owners, thats kinda tough to beat.
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Trump has on numerous occasions, used undocumented migrants for construction projects and sweat shops for various product lines. Given the passage of time it's somewhat equivalent since he actively pursues a similar route.
 
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Hanafuda said:
Told ya in that last post that I'm not here to argue/debate anymore. I did reply to a post from Ansem about Megyn Kelly :shit:, but it wasn't argumentative and it wasn't an invitation. You want to talk video games, find me elsewhere on the forum.
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If you aren't here to discuss the matter, then please don't come in and lie. Even the most basic questions of scrutiny on your position will make you stomp away in protest? That's either lazy, dishonest, or both. There were no "doozies", that was just you hoping upon hope that your current leader wasn't as bad as you're being told. He is, and there is no comparison even remotely close.

The same can be said about your Megyn Kelly and Tucker post (I can't believe I'm defending them here). It's not about the "Joos", as you lied about, it's about the ongoing genocide a government is engaged in, and your government still supporting that genocide.

I understand though. It's impossible to defend the indefensible.
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Nakamichi said:
im not so sure about that.
he is pretty horrendous but with him its that he is not even trying to hide it, all the other presidents had the common decency to be crooks in secret, he does it in plain sight.
is he the worst president?
Yeah, i think so, but without a lot more data on the others that came before its hard to judge if he is really the most corrupt.
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A picture is worth a thousand words:

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Try to find any previous president who's net worth went up that insanely in a matter of a single year. That's what happens when you have foreign governments putting billions into your fake meme coin and you blatantly manipulate the stock market.
 

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