Roe V Wade has been repealed

[Deleted member 481923]

Degenerate? The only degenerates I see here are those anti-abortion creeps who think they're entitled to women's bodies. Like you.

I don't really care about abortion. When I see the type of people out marching around, I totally do not want them to reproduce.

 

[mituzora]

To live a short life of misery before being shot at a school. Because in your America, guns have more rights than women.

Or killing themselves because their parents didn't want them and take their anger out on the kid. It's pretty gross tbh

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I don't really care about abortion.

And yet you're here vocally expressing your opinion, therefore either you're a narcissist with a constant need to be engaged with, or a liar.

When I see the type of people out marching around, I totally do not want them to reproduce.

We would all be better off if religious nutcases and GQP traitors didn't reproduce.

 

[mrdude]

You can't kill something that isn't alive. And it takes time to detect a pregnancy.

At what poin does it become alive, do you think the egg is dead and the sperm is dead - before the egg is fertalised does it just come alive after 6 weeks or something, or do you think the cells are alive from day 1 when they start to divide?

 

[n00bsaib0t]

All that's happened is it's now the decision of each state - if you don't like the laws of the state you live in you can always move to another state where you prefer the laws.

That's not an option for 99% of the damn country dude. Come back to reality, the vast, VAST majority cannot afford to do that financially. You know what people opposed to abortion could do before this happened? Not get a fucking abortion.

At what point does that fertilised egg that is a growing baby become a baby, the moment of fetilisation or after 9 weeks, what about 8 weeks and 6 days? The thing is, at some point the egg is classed as a human, where do you draw the line? Nobody can stop a women going to a place where abortion is legal - you can have the abortion there, or you can just not have sex, or use contraception, the morning after pill etc - there's lots of choices available.

Actually yeah several states have passed laws to stop exactly that.

 

[mituzora]

At what poin does it become alive, do you think the egg is dead and the sperm is dead - before the egg is fertalised does it just come alive after 6 weeks or something, or do you think the cells are alive from day 1 when they start to divide?

By all accounts the sperm and the egg were never alive to begin with. it takes both cells to perform meiosis...

also, there's a definite definition, and a fetus doesn't become a baby until it's born.

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Wow, bunch incel fucks in here.

Let me break it down: This isn't about life, its about control. As many posts have stated, this is only the beginning. Also, if you don't have a uterus, you really shouldn't be making any decisions about people's bodies who have a uterus. it's not that hard.

Some of you say birth control is the way to go. Female birth control severely fucks with hormones and can cause a lot of issues. Condoms and other non-hormone based contraceptives are not 100 percent effective either, and guess what, I'm pretty sure if someone's forcing themselves on someone, they don't typically give a shit about protection.

You can't even get a historectomy in this country without a "good reason" (and a lot of times, it requires a fucking husband to sign off, and to have at least a kid or two, and that's fucking disgusting) but people with penises can get a vasectomy at any point. Adding on to the "it's about control point"

A embryo isn't alive until it's born by definition, if that bothers you then that's fine, but it's not up to your moral compass to make a definition, or to control someone else's body.

Also, are you going to pull a tapeworm out of you? it's alive, and it requires your body to live. if you cherish life so much then let that tapeworm suck you dry. An embryo by all definitions is a parasite until birth.

Lastly, and this is the one I have to stress the most. forcing people to have kids is a bad idea. Some people make mistakes, and then if they can't choose, then they have to raise a kid and totally fuck them up. That kid has a high statistic of either killing itself anyway, or hurting others because it didn't get the proper care it needed, because it's parent wasn't fit to be a parent. If it would have been aborted before that, it woudln't have even known it was alive, didn't have to feel the pain of being an unwanted child.

FFS y'all need to grow up and stop acting like you have a choice in their bodies.

also, all of this is coming from a cis white male. so if I can understand that, then the rest of you incel fucks can too.

"Killing babies isn't about killing babies it's actually about controlling women, incel!"

Okay, sweetheart.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

At what poin does it become alive, do you think the egg is dead and the sperm is dead - before the egg is fertalised does it just come alive after 6 weeks or something, or do you think the cells are alive from day 1 when they start to divide?

An amoeba is alive yet you wouldn't call it murder if you squashed one, would you?

 

[mituzora]

"Killing babies isn't about killing babies it's actually about controlling women, incel!"

Okay, sweetheart.

nothing logical to add. didin't think so.

okay incel.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Killing babies isn't about killing babies

A foetus isn't a baby, no matter how many times you repeat it, jack***. It's a well known tactic of your side, not gonna fool anyone here.

 

[Deleted member 481923]

Degenerate? The only degenerates I see here are those anti-abortion creeps who think they're entitled to women's bodies. Like you.

I misspoke. I shouldn't have used the word 'degenerate'. There are plenty of legit abortions. Im talking about the people who use abortion a birth control.
This is no better than someone just assuming I am a 'white trumper' because I think differently.

 

[Elodain]

You know what people opposed to abortion could do before this happened? Not get a fucking abortion

Odds are though is they took 5 seconds to put a condom on for take a pill. Try to prevent the need for an abortion before it arose.

It might not be 100% effective, but at least they tried unlike the party girls at my high school I mentioned in a previous post, who didn't care because "oh! I don't have to sacrifice my irresponsible life style! Mommy and Daddy will pay for an abortion so I can have my cake and eat it!"

 

[mrdude]

We would all be better off if religious nutcases and GQP traitors didn't reproduce.

People in every country have been religious since time began, for thousands of years every civilisation has had it's own gods and own religions - you are the end product from one of these ancestors that you have that have been religious. If they didn't reproduce you me and every single person on the planet wouldn't be here and the human race would be long extinct.

 

[n00bsaib0t]

"Killing babies isn't about killing babies it's actually about controlling women, incel!"

Okay, sweetheart.

Luckily, for those of us living in reality, a zygote isn't a baby.

 

[n00bsaib0t]

Odds are though is they took 5 seconds to put a condom on for take a pill. Try to prevent the need for an abortion before it arose.

It might not be 100% effective, but at least they tried unlike the party girls at my high school I mentioned in a previous post...

So going back to my previous post, it's about using children as a punishment then. You didn't do X, therefore your punishment is Y. And when that's your stance, you forfeit the "pro life" and "the babies are sacred" arguments because you openly admitted its about control and punishment.

 

[SyphenFreht]

It says 600,000 abortions on average

I mean, your second link don't have any sort of accurate data for children murdered but its certainly less than 600,000

Because you're not going to get accurate statistics on children murdered by assault rifles. It's too narrow among a broad range of what is considered an assault rifle and by extension, how these sites define concepts like murder, gun violence, and child.

I was a planned and wanted pregnancy and that still happened. Life can be unfair sometimes. I'm still happy I had the chance to live, despite having dropped the ball several times, growing up in borderline squalor and being severely depressed as an adult, needing pharmaceuticals and the occasional joint to keep myself stable.

I was an unplanned pregnancy that was unwanted at time of actual birth, when they found out I wasn't the gender they wanted. Instead of giving me up for adoption, they stuck by their Christian values and kept me, subjecting me to a life of abuse in many forms. Do I wish I had been aborted? Irrelevant, because I made my life happier, something many other people having gone through similar experiences never achieve. But if I had been? Who cares. Would've saved me years of suffering.

While I applaud your resistance and hope you continue to prosper, I don't (and can't,) hold my biased beliefs to other people and their lives. What women do with their bodies and whatever stage of development their fetus may be in is no one's business but theirs, and detracting from that in any way is a gross invasion of privacy, at best.

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

A foetus isn't a baby, no matter how many times you repeat it, jack***. It's a well known tactic of your side, not gonna fool anyone here.

If I run up to a pregnant woman and punt her in the gut and she misscarries did I just kill her baby/unborn child?

Or did I just kill "a clump of cells" or whatever it is you psychotics claim it is.

 

[mituzora]

So going back to my previous post, it's about using children as a punishment then. You didn't do X, therefore your punishment is Y. And when that's your stance, you forfeit the "pro life" and "the babies are sacred" arguments because you openly admitted its about control and punishment.

I'd like to add that it's just punishing the working class mind you because I guarantee you the upper class will still have safe options to remove unwanted embryos. I think it's more about control than punishment personally, but I agree at the same time

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Because you're not going to get accurate statistics on children murdered by assault rifles. It's too narrow among a broad range of what is considered an assault rifle and by extension, how these sites define concepts like murder, gun violence, and child.

Why can't we get that? Shouldn't it be incredibly easy? It's literally less than 100 a year.

 

[Lacius]

Odds are though is they took 5 seconds to put a condom on for take a pill. Try to prevent the need for an abortion before it arose.

It might not be 100% effective, but at least they tried unlike the party girls at my high school I mentioned in a previous post, who didn't care because "oh! I don't have to sacrifice my irresponsible life style! Mommy and Daddy will pay for an abortion so I can have my cake and eat it!"

Contraception is not readily accessible for everyone, sex education in the US is a joke because of the political right, and the political right is trying to reduce or eliminate access to many forms of contraception.