U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

[Rena_to84]

Those same rights also list forced pregnancy as a crime against humanity
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/crimes-against-humanity.shtml

I asked you a rather simple question about the field of medicine that you study under. If you are a doctor, that shouldn't be an issue to disclose. So far, you've only presented some basic medical jargon that one would learn in middle/high school. The rest of your posts have been conspiracies, conjectures, and misquoting. You claimed to be a doctor but you act more like one of the regulars we commonly see making dupe accounts.

I haven't specified the "United Abomination's notion of human rights" for a reason, you know? They put Venezuelan regime puppets to chair the "human rights' council". That says it all.

But do you want to know how long should a patient be on a dual-antiplatelet therapy after going through a primary angioplasty with drug-eluting stents on his left anterior descending coronary artery? Do you want to know the dosage of IV Adenosine to reverse a supraventricular tachycardia in the ER?

Or do you want me to explain to you again why the baby inside a woman's womb is a human being, which you shall not murder?

 

[osaka35]

The right to live is the first golden rule in any set of "human rights" (you probably don't know the origin of this term you use so much).
The baby inside the mother's womb is an INDIVIDUAL with its own unique DNA, which can not become a monkey, can not become a dog, can not become a tree, can not become a unicorn, it can only become a human being, because IT IS a human being, with THE RIGHT TO LIVE.

"can become" is different than "is". You can't conflate the two just because. A fertilized egg is a blueprint for a human, it is not a human itself. The final results will be different than the blueprints based on the resources used to build the actual human from the blueprints (environment, nutrition, etc.).

It's like saying you have to "save this forest" when you just have a hand full of seeds. Saying you have to "save this forest" as an argument for planting the seeds where you want the forest to grow is...well, it's a bit circular.

That, and "right to live" doesn't mean at the expense of others. You can't go around stealing people's kidneys to save other people's lives. Even if both will live that way, the "right to live" doesn't negate personal autonomy.

 

[The Catboy]

I haven't specified the "United Abomination's notion of human rights" for a reason, you know? They put Venezuelan regime puppets to chair the "human rights' council". That says it all.

But do you want to know how long should a patient be on a dual-antiplatelet therapy after going through a primary angioplasty with drug-eluting stents on his left anterior descending coronary artery? Do you want to know the dosage of IV Adenosine to reverse a supraventricular tachycardia in the ER?

Or do you want me to explain to you again why the baby inside a woman's womb is a human being, which you shall not murder?

Damn dude, that’s a lot of words to not answer a very simple question

 

[Rena_to84]

"can become" is different than "is". You can't conflate the two just because. A fertilized egg is a blueprint for a human, it is not a human itself. The final results will be different than the blueprints based on the resources used to build the actual human from the blueprints (environment, nutrition, etc.).

It's like saying you have to "save this forest" when you just have a hand full of seeds. Saying you have to "save this forest" as an argument for planting the seeds where you want the forest to grow is...well, it's a bit circular.

That, and "right to live" doesn't mean at the expense of others. You can't go around stealing people's kidneys to save other people's lives. Even if both will live that way, the "right to live" doesn't override personal autonomy.

What you're saying to me is that I can murder a 1 month old baby. Postnatal. That's definitely human sacrifice. It's the most REGRESSIVE thing you can do to a civilization.

 

[SG854]

@BitMasterPlus

You know what's so stupid about the don't have sex argument. What if its a married couple having sex wearing protection and yet some accident happens and the woman gets pregnant like a condom accidently ripping or something.

The fit the bill of conservative logic that they are married. And use protection. And yet by dumbass conservative logic they should be forced to take care of a kid they never intended. This kid can have financial consequences on the family if they cant afford it or mental consequences on a family that didn't want kids.

So should married couples never have sex ever? Only have sex to produce a child or however many they want and then never have sex ever again for the rest of their life. This is pure stupidity. But I'm sure a loser like you who never had sex wouldn't understand this.

 

[osaka35]

What you're saying to me is that I can murder a 1 month old baby. Postnatal. That's definitely human sacrifice. It's the most REGRESSIVE thing you can do to a civilization.

Which part of what i said made you feel like this was a logical conclusion?

 

[Rena_to84]

@BitMasterPlus

You know what's so stupid about the don't have sex argument. What if its a married couple having sex wearing protection and yet some accident happens and the woman gets pregnant like a condom accidently ripping or something.

The fit the bill of conservative logic that they are married. And use protection. And yet by dumbass conservative logic they should be forced to take care of a kid they never intended. This kid can have financial consequences on the family if they cant afford it or mental consequences on a family that didn't want kids.

So should married couples never have sex ever? Only have sex to produce a child or however many they want and then never have sex ever again for the rest of their life. This is pure stupidity. But I'm sure a loser like you who never had sex wouldn't understand this.

Dude, if you think there's such a thing as "conservative logic" or "socialist logic", you don't know what logic is. Sorry, but you don't.

 

[YamiZee]

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

...

All life huh. What about that steak on your plate?

 

[SG854]

Dude, if you think there's such a thing as "conservative logic" or "socialist logic", you don't know what logic is. Sorry, but you don't.

Nice way to avoid what I said

 

[Rena_to84]

Which part of what i said made you feel like this was a logical conclusion?

You're comparing a plant that's starting to grow, and will eventually become a tree, with a 1 month old baby that will eventually become a human being. Can you see how lunatic your arguments were?

All life huh. What about that steak on your plate?

Human life. Yes, humans are special. I suggest you read Chesterton's "Everlasting Man", it's brilliant.
If you don't, I hope you don't kill yourself after realizing how many bacteria you kill every time you go to the bathroom, ok?

Nice way to avoid what I said

Every civilization in which total "sexual liberation" starts to spread, there's regression and chaos, until eventually that civilization dies.
My comrade, tell me, what do you think about the Chinese Communist Party, Iranian and Stalin's USSR laws that prohibited homosexual behavior with really hard punishments? Is it fair in those cases? Tell me, comrade.

 

[YamiZee]

Human life. Yes, humans are special. I suggest you read Chesterton's "Everlasting Man", it's brilliant.
If you don't, I hope you don't kill yourself after realizing how many bacteria you kill every time you go to the bathroom, ok?

Humans aren't special. However all sentient and intelligent life is. Bacteria is neither, and as it turns out, neither are human fetuses. Having an abortion is actually on the same level of morality as eating a shrimp scampi.

 

[SG854]

Every civilization in which total "sexual liberation" starts to spread, there's regression and chaos, until eventually that civilization dies.
My comrade, tell me, what do you think about the Chinese Communist Party, Iranian and Stalin's USSR laws that prohibited homosexual behavior with really hard punishments? Is it fair in those cases? Tell me, comrade.

What to go to sound unhinged. This is an argument about Abortion.

 

[Rena_to84]

Humans aren't special. However all sentient and intelligent life is. Bacteria is neither, and as it turns out, neither are human fetuses. Having an abortion is actually on the same level of morality as eating a shrimp scampi.

While you sleep, I'm gonna kill you to exercise my freedom of killing any "non-sentient and non-intelligent life". It's gonna be fun, isn't it?

What to go to sound unhinged. This is an argument about Abortion.

You were talking about sexual liberation. Stop lying (or being a socialist, which is the same thing).

Humans aren't special. However all sentient and intelligent life is. Bacteria is neither, and as it turns out, neither are human fetuses. Having an abortion is actually on the same level of morality as eating a shrimp scampi.

Oh, what about a covid patient that's sedated and on mechanical ventilation? We should stop spending all that money with all of them, since those are all unintelligent non-sentient clump of cells, aren't they? Are they or not?

 

[osaka35]

While you sleep, I'm gonna kill you to exercise my freedom of killing any "non-sentient and non-intelligent life". It's gonna be fun, isn't it?

please stop comparing things to literally killing someone here. if you do it again, it'll be considered an actual threat and you'll be banned.

 

[Rena_to84]

please stop comparing things to literally killing someone here. if you do it again, it'll be considered an actual threat and you'll be banned.

Stop crying when someone doesn't accept your arbitrary words and notions for what a small unique human being inside a woman's womb is.
If you really believe in "reason" and understand what it is, try showing me some of it, please. I love reasonable exchange of ideas. Arguing about words is not one of them.

 

[The Catboy]

Dude, if you think there's such a thing as "conservative logic" or "socialist logic", you don't know what logic is. Sorry, but you don't.

Why do you keep avoiding my question? What field do you practice under? For a doctor, you sure seem embarrassed by your practice

 

[osaka35]

Stop crying when someone doesn't accept your arbitrary words and notions for what a small unique human being inside a woman's womb is.
If you really believe in "reason" and understand what it is, try showing me some of it, please. I love reasonable exchange of ideas. Arguing about words is not one of them.

that's fine, just don't say threaten people you're talking with is all. These things can get heated and it's best to ensure no one feels like they're actually in danger or anything.

 

[SG854]

Why do you keep avoiding my question? What field do you practice under? For a doctor, you sure seem embarrassed by your practice

He's a Witch Doctor that's what he is.

 

[The Catboy]

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

Does this include the lives of LGBT+ folks, poor people, people on government support, and medical support? What about the life of a potential parent who needs an abortion due to complications that risk killing them?

 

[Stone_Wings]

Dude, if you think there's such a thing as "conservative logic" or "socialist logic", you don't know what logic is. Sorry, but you don't.

Dude, if you are anti-abortion, you don't know what freedom is. Sorry, but you don't. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.