The situation in Ukraine...

[smf]

You really believe our leaders care about killings?
I will not disturb your dream then.

When listening to what you believe, I really worry about your mental health.

Of course you believe that you are more aware than anyone else, but that is also a sign of a mental health issue.

So let's not pretend that your arguments are valid, just because you believe them.

 

[smf]

Try to argue with facts rather than feelings next time, lol. (hint: go read about Socialism, what causes it, effects over private property, and how Communist states are born out of that). Marxism is also Socialism

Hysteria over communism is a great way of controlling the population, so you can steal from them.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

When listening to what you believe, I really worry about your mental health.

Of course you believe that you are more aware than anyone else, but that is also a sign of a mental health issue.

So let's not pretend that your arguments are valid, just because you believe them.

I am not more aware. Only a woke cuck speaks like that.
I just don´t have a Disney interpretation of what Western governments say.
If you think Western governments care about the lives of civilians, let me ask you a few questions:
a) Why are they okay with letting Afghani children starve? At least they could unfreeze the Afghani funds.
b) Why are they okay with supporting the bombing of people in Yemen? (biggest humanitarian crisis in the world for many years now)
c) Why was former Secretary of State Albright okay with killing half a million Iraqi children?
"The 60 Minutes interviewer, Leslie Stahl, asked Albright: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Former Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, replied: "I think this is a very hard choice. But the price–we think the price is worth it." (May, 1996)
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Articles/madalbright.html
(or look for the youtube video of this interview)

Western governments don´t give a shit about how many Ukrainians die. They are eager to inflict pain on "rogue nations" or "the axis of evil" and are willing to sacrifice any number of people.

 

[Xzi]

Western governments don´t give a shit about how many Ukrainians die.

Firstly, Western governments are made up of people with individual thoughts and opinions. Secondly, what difference does it really make? Imperialism and unprovoked aggression from a world superpower is unequivocally wrong and evil in every way. And yes, that includes what the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan, among many other examples. Whataboutism doesn't change the facts of what's happened to Ukraine and what's still happening now.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Firstly, Western governments are made up of people with individual thoughts and opinions. Secondly, what difference does it really make? Imperialism and unprovoked aggression from a world superpower is unequivocally wrong and evil in every way. And yes, that includes what the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan, among many other examples.

I am not arguing about differences. I am responding to the smf´s Hollywood view of the world.

 

[Coto]

Hysteria over communism is a great way of controlling the population, so you can steal from them.

You have a serious cognitive dissonance do you? I've already explained some posts back Chile is a Republic, and has been target of Socialist coups at least three times

edit:
Chemical weapons target Ukraine territory now

 

[djpannda]

You have a serious cognitive dissonance do you? I've already explained some posts back Chile is a Republic, and has been target of Socialist coups at least three times

edit:
Chemical weapons target Ukraine territory now

South America's view is different from the rest of the world. As South America has a ridiculous Amount of Coup in its history. The Fear of a Communist Coup is is a really possibility in South America ( looks at the Current President of Peru) but That Fear is not really shared in other parts of the world

 

[Coto]

exactly. Also be aware of United Nations disarm treaty because that took Chile's Armed Forces subdued to China, and has been a replica enactment law where all it takes is a legislation, spreads like a virus across local countries around here and enables China to decide wether your country should be armed or not.

 

[smf]

You have a serious cognitive dissonance do you? I've already explained some posts back Chile is a Republic, and has been target of Socialist coups at least three times

And? Chile is not the USA, what is your point?

I am not arguing about differences. I am responding to the smf´s Hollywood view of the world.

I've literally no idea what you're going on about there.

If western governments don't care about ukraine, then what deep conspiracy do you think is causing them to take action that are causing themselves harm?

 

[Dr_Faustus]

No, don't make me laugh. The Democratic party is a center-right, capitalist party through and through. If you're unable to distinguish them from actual Socialists who want to seize the means of production for the working class, that weakens your credibility by quite a lot.

Oh cool, someone else sees through the bullshit too.

The DNC is nothing but moderate shit anymore. They pay lip service for the radical left but don't really do much to actually make things better for everyone. At least not unless there's some interest involved to corporate entities.

 

[Coto]

No, don't make me laugh. The Democratic party is a center-right, capitalist party through and through. If you're unable to distinguish them from actual Socialists who want to seize the means of production for the working class, that weakens your credibility by quite a lot.

bullshit

DNC Chairman: Socialism Is the Future of Our Party​

 

[Deleted member 586536]

bullshit

hmm. a website that claims it the truth? and a website nobody has heard of?
Let's go a step further and look for the owner
ah

so it's meant to be conservitive, for conservatives, claiming it's the truth.
you know how easy it is to grift on conservatives?
extremely easy

 

[Deleted member 586536]

As for a rebuttable

bullshit

here's nancy polosi on the record stating they are capitalist, when an individual essentially actually tries asking about socialist policies.

 

[Coto]

so it's meant to be conservitive

you got a brain tumor when you tried to quote actual sources, so i'll help you read through the site, and check their sources so you don't get lost again ok?

DNC Chairman: Socialism Is the Future of Our Party​

The chairman of the Democratic National Committee said Tuesday that Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is “the future of our party.”

The liberal talk host asked Perez about Ocasio-Cortez’s surprising primary victory last week over 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York’s 14th Congressional District.

“What does this tell you about where the Democratic Party is going today?” Press said.

Perez responded by saying his daughters “were both texting me about their excitement over Alexandria, because she really, she represents the future of our party.”

And now

The 28-year-old Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, who want to abolish capitalism in favor of an economy run by the state or “the workers.”

Last week, the New York City DSA also called for the abolition of borders and prisons.

And now pictures:


I'll help you to read what's in the link contents so you don't get lost ok?

https://www.dsausa.org/toward_freedom

The Democratic Socialists of America is the largest socialist organization in the United States, with over 90,000 members. We believe that working people should run both the economy and society democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few.

This democratic commitment to social pluralism does not negate the need for a democratic state that would ensure the rule of law, protect the environment, and insure a basic level of equity for each citizen. It is predominantly through cooperative, voluntary relationships that people will develop the social bonds that render life meaningful. In these institutions, there will be different roles conforming to the varied talents citizens bring to different pursuits.

 

[Xzi]

bullshit

AOC gets sidelined and railroaded by the Democratic party constantly. Same treatment Bernie Sanders got for his entire career. Two people out of hundreds of representatives in DC does not a Socialist party make.

New York City DSA

The DSA is not affiliated with the Democratic party. They might try to push the party left on some issues, but again, with two whole representatives their reach and influence is extremely limited.

Repeating myself here: the US spends fuck all on social services. Until that spending at least manages to match our annual corporate handouts, we're as polar opposite from a Socialist country as you can possibly get. We're on the decline toward oligarchy.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

AOC gets sidelined and railroaded by the Democratic party constantly. Same treatment Bernie Sanders got for his entire career. Two people out of hundreds of representatives in DC does not a Socialist party make.

AOC is fake eye candy. She acted as if she is tough, but then she toed the line like everyone else. Look up "force the vote".

 

[djpannda]

so if Putin is committing War Crimes on Civilians because it was afraid that Ukriane would join NATO....
I wonder what it will do to stop Finland from Joining...


:::HINT::: most likely nothing... because it was ever about NATO.. just an excuse for land grab to raise Putins legacy

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

If Korea united and joined Nato, China would do the same. There are red lines when it comes to enemies at your gate. The US would do the same to its neighbors. Russian or Chinese missiles in Canada or Mexico pointing at Washington is unacceptable.

 

[linuxares]

If Korea united and joined Nato, China would do the same. There are red lines when it comes to enemies at your gate. The US would do the same to its neighbors. Russian or Chinese missiles in Canada or Mexico pointing at Washington is unacceptable.

When was the last time the US invaded their neighbors? I can tell when Russia did.

 

[djpannda]

If Korea united and joined Nato, China would do the same. There are red lines when it comes to enemies at your gate. The US would do the same to its neighbors. Russian or Chinese missiles in Canada or Mexico pointing at Washington is unacceptable.

fear mongering at best... NATO=North Atlantic Treaty Organization

Korea is the Pacific South.....
also complete BS as USA has Thousands of missiles Pointed at China as we speak in Japan... soo yea...



ANNDDD



so look at that area next to the NATO GREEN Alaska.... that Grey landmass is... :rumroll:: RUSSIA. 50miles aways.....
and you are NAIVE as F$K as you don't think Russia and US has A BUTT LOAD OF missiles/Nukes Pointed at each other in that area