The situation in Ukraine...

[Viri]

Moldova is nervously sweating!

 

[KuntilanakMerah]

Long Life Putin
Bravo Russia

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.

 

[pustal]

Putin doesn't want an additional NATO country at his border, that's a FACT.
What guarantees that he will stop at Ukraine? The NATO. Really, it's that simple. Sign the agreement that Ukraine will not join NATO, and the war is over. It's that simple. No more bloodshed. That's a reasonable price for saving thousands of lives and saving this planet from a possible nuclear war.

Remember when, during the cold war, a russian warship with nuclear warheads was on it's way to Cuba to build up the silos there? Remember how USA threatened the soviets with a nuclear war when they won't turn around? We're in the same situation right now, only with role reversal.

Guaranteeing that Ukraine won't join the NATO, is such a minor sacrifice, considering how many human lives can be saved by that act. Everyone can keep what they already have, Ukraine will stay a sovereign country, the west can still earn a lot of money by providing Ukraine with a lot of military equipment, and Russia shuts the fuck up. That would be the best possible outcome considering how the situation heats up right now.

Moldova, Finland and Sweden do not belong to NATO, and Putin already threatened the later two this week.

Putin will want more than that, he'll want and independent territory and limitations to the army and he'll continue to feed insurrectionists.

Ukraine will probably sign that deal if it's not given assurances it'll be accepted in NATO, but that will mean that Ukraine will be forever a puppet state of Russia and the same will happen if any of the other 3 countries decide to join NATO. Also, until when Russia decide to take another Crimea out of the Ukraine?

This is what Putin wants, to show weakness in NATO and the West and that he is the de facto power in the region.

 

[djpannda]

They need to treat them like North Korean defectors. They are held in special housing (hotel quality) until they are completely vetted.

But yea that is amazing idea.. they have been plenty of Russian just giving up knowing they will be ruffed up… offer them a better life and they’ll hand over their rifles in droves

Oh look it’s starting

Russian soldiers offered 5 million rubles in cryptocurrency for surrendering to Ukrainian army.​

 

[djpannda]

You know you done and FU$K up when Switzerland says you are the bad Guy..

Swiss adopt EU sanctions against Russia in break with pastNeutral Switzerland will adopt European Union sanctions against Russians involved in Moscow's invasion of Ukraine and freeze their assets, the government said on Monday in a sharp deviation from the...

 

[pustal]

Oh look it’s starting

Russian soldiers offered 5 million rubles in cryptocurrency for surrendering to Ukrainian army.​

Well the "in criptocurrency" may mean they are offering 50 million rubles worth, or 75, or 30. Bitcoin has been as stable as Russian satellite states.

 

[Dr_Faustus]

Well the "in criptocurrency" may mean they are offering 50 million rubles worth, or 75, or 30. Bitcoin has been as stable as Russian satellite states.

Its currently more stable than the Russian Ruble right now, and that alone is saying something.

 

[almmiron]

Just to express my feelings: I'm brazilian, graduated in History. 99% of the academics here hate Bolsonaro, so no, we (common people) are not neutral Like he Says.

We hate war and violence, and Russia is terribly wrong to engage, aside legitimate concerns about the frontiers and NATO. About the Siege Russia did to Ukraine, before the invasion, when the all media of the world became nuts: This is Like Russia feels all these decades after NATO 1949. Surrounded. But no one cares, but Russia itself, you see?

I think diplomacy could resolve this, it's hard, but it could. Putin is far from being a good diplomat, though.

 

[pustal]

Its currently more stable than the Russian Ruble right now, and that alone is saying something.

Nonesense, the ruble is very stabl...y falling xD

Just to express my feelings: I'm brazilian, graduated in History. 99% of the academics here hate Bolsonaro, so no, we (common people) are not neutral Like he Says.

We hate war and violence, and Russia is terribly wrong to engage, aside legitimate concerns about the frontiers and OTAN. About the Siege Russia did to Ukraine, before the invasion, when the all media of the world became nuts: This is Like Russia feels all these decades after OTAN 1949. Surrounded. But no one cares, but Russia itself, you see?

I think diplomacy could resolve this, it's hard, but it could. Putin is far from being a good diplomat, though.

You should use 'NATO': rather than 'OTAN' in an English speaking thread not to create confusion.

Modern Russia as never acted in an assuring way towards outsiders: Georgia, Moldova, Ossetia, Chechnya, Ukraine and Syria. Not to mention having for more than once spoken about engaging with Finland

I wasn't been the only war mongering, super power, but there is no feeling sorry for the Russian government. They have resources, they could have established themselves economically and diplomatically but they took the route of oppressing their neighbors beyond their own people.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Thats what Ultra Right wing Conservatives wanted to project mostly because anything against President Biden.
Most Normal Right Conservatives are not for this conflict.
the problem is the Normal Conservatives are being slient and all your hearing is the American Nazis sect.

Why everything is an USA's domestic electoral matter for the average American?

From my perspective, every single USA president kept the same degree of interventionism and imperialism at least since I learned to read the news. Russia on other hand was already an expansionist nation like 300 years before USA even exists. This two empires are in a cold fight for influence, as always btw, and the Ukraine is the current victim.

 

[Dr_Faustus]

Why everything is an USA's domestic electoral matter for the average American?

Because US politics in this day and age has been rotted away to a point of two opposing teams flinging shit at each other making it each other's fault than doing something practical about it and getting out of their own way about shit. But we do not live in an era of personal accountability and action anymore, so its easier to blame sides than to actually do something about changing things for the better.

Shits like seeing kids argue over which Console is the best. That is our political state of being right now.

 

[Valwinz]

we are been bombarded by a level of propaganda i have never experienced before stories keep getting debunk about magical planes and fake stories about happenings in the war

 

[chrisrlink]

i hope i didn't misjudge by breaking up with my gf now that Putin raised the stakes by alot by putting his nuke force on standby as i said before 5 bases near me a perfect first target for Russia

 

[djpannda]

Why everything is an USA's domestic electoral matter for the average American?

From my perspective, every single USA president kept the same degree of interventionism and imperialism at least since I learned to read the news. Russia on other hand was already an expansionist nation like 300 years before USA even exists. This two empires are in a cold fight for influence, as always btw, and the Ukraine is the current victim.

lol Trolly Troll
maybe because I was answering a question '

 

[MMX]

we need to get a list together of gbatempers who make a military group and then we drive to ukraine and fight against russia

who's with me?

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

There usually isn't. People are usually either fighting or hiding when guns are fired.

Ok. Well, wasn't there 100,000 troops at the border 5 days ago?

Where's the smartphone footage of them marching down the street? It's literally just a few helicopters, some all terrain vehicles and missiles strikes from hundreds of miles away.

 

[pustal]

Ok. Well, wasn't there 100,000 troops at the border 5 days ago?

Where's the smartphone footage of them marching down the street? It's literally just a few helicopters, some all terrain vehicles and missiles strikes from hundreds of miles away.

Well, it's not a parade. Typically a modern warfare advancement starts with air strikes and artillery and then infantry. Air units can bombard or be used to cover artillery (Russia doesn't want to make the country disfuncional to govern so air coverage is mostly being used to cover ground units), and artillery goes before infantry, because you don't want to blow your soldiers with your own tanks.

Infantry units, like anything else use fire arms, so it's cover-based combat.

This is what an attack looks like (NSFW / shocking images) (also, another of many Russian war crimes in this war). The shooters are not out in the open. If you can see them you are also in target for them.

 

[Xzi]

It's probably already been mentioned, but Anonymous has joined the fight. Just about everything in Russia has been hacked to display pro-Ukrainian, anti-Putin messages.

 

[Viri]

we need to get a list together of gbatempers who make a military group and then we drive to ukraine and fight against russia

who's with me?

The only thing tempers would be good at on the battlefield, would be cannon fodder. lol

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Heard they're gonna just start bombing the shit outta Ukraine now since the ground troops approach isn't working too well. It's gonna turn more dark by the day. I pray for those who are still alive for their safety.

we need to get a list together of gbatempers who make a military group and then we drive to ukraine and fight against russia

who's with me?

I'm sure a lot of people who are against Russia and said Putin should die will gladly join the fight right away without a second thought, yes?