is it possible to create a softmod for the xbox 360?

[Daniels_-_]

More than 15 years have passed, in which experiences from this console should have been collected. From what I see, no one is interested in making a soft mod for Xbox 360, so they asked me what should I learn to know how to make a softmod? Why not try? because those who do know about this do not join and succeed? I think I may be able, just like other people did with different consoles. I think that the last thing that was discovered so far the rgh 3.0 in my opinion a discovery that was made very late, which could be squeezed a lot in its time. put love to your answers I read them.

 

[M7L7NK7]

Don't know what that says, but you can't just create a soft mod out of nothing

 

[Daniels_-_]

Don't know what that says, but you can't just create a soft mod out of nothing

I corrected the message, I'm sorry, I'm Spanish. you can read and comment.

 

[FAST6191]

Interested? If it was possible then people would jump all over it.

Trouble is it seems to not be possible short of someone figuring out the signing keys (leaking, luck, maybe a list of primes one day or quantum computers being the main deal) so we are instead compelled to look at hardware.


That is an older video, and the part about "nothing interesting there" was quite famously subsequently used for RGH (and I guess this new one as well). However it does serve as a very nice overview of the security setup and why something like the original xbox or a simple save exploit like we are commonly used to seeing for older stuff is not really going to happen.
The hardware methods are usually simple enough as well, the latest round being very reliable and also being able to be done with common components you can buy from a vaguely well stocked vendor (assuming you care to dump your NAND with more annoying methods).
https://gbatemp.net/threads/rgh3-chipless-glitching.602237/

 

[Daniels_-_]

Well, I mean that the main problem that there is no softmod is because nobody has those Xbox 360 signature keys? Being more españo is not enough to download the console software on the PC and decrypt it or do something like that? I really have no idea of the topics, I would appreciate the one who knows about Softmod to explain to me.

 

[DinohScene]

To keep it short, there's a "softmod" for the 360, only prerequisite the flashed drive.
If your 360 is at kernel 4532 or 4548, you could use the King Kong Exploit.

Kernel 4532 and 4548 contain a hypervisor bug which doesn't check for shader signatures.
Any hardware hack not counting flashed drives rely on those kernels to load it into a hacked environment.
JTAG and all RGH versions patch the bootloaders to load into this kernel.

Since RGH doesn't care about dash/kernel version, there's little interest for a softmod.
Not to mention the fact that every bit of code on the 360 goes through the hypervisor which isn't helping with a potential other softmod.
Besides, MS would simply push an update that blows a efuse if a vulnerability is found by them, reported or released by people.
Efuses make downgrading impossible which is another hinder to the traditional "softmod" so to say ;p

If you're interested in hacking the 360, I suggest learning about PowerPC code, it would help a lot.

 

[Daniels_-_]

if the great advantage of the rgh and the lack of desire to create a softmod have coherence, I understand what you are trying to say perfectly. but it must be said simply with the use of a USB and a few simple steps people will always find it easier to opt for such a method.

 

[Daniels_-_]

by the way I think you are the oldest in the forum you must have valuable information that you have been able to collect over time. I suppose jeje

 

[DinohScene]

I don't know if you know how RGH works but the earlier access you have in the boot chain, the better the results.
For such a softmod, you've have to reboot the machine and apply patches somehow to load into a hacked environment without the hypervisor rejecting it.
Hypothetically speaking that is.

 

[Daniels_-_]

No sé si sabe cómo funciona RGH, pero cuanto antes acceda a la cadena de arranque, mejores serán los resultados.
Para un softmod de este tipo, debe reiniciar la máquina y aplicar parches de alguna manera para cargar en un entorno pirateado sin que el hipervisor lo rechace.
Hipotéticamente hablando, eso es.

If I understand it, as I say I would opt for rgh if I had the capicity and I would not be afraid to do it, but I do not think I will. What I am trying to say is that he imagines being a common teenager and without knowing about electronics with a simple USB hacked into the Xbox, he would get several smiles from quite a few people the truth. I will keep waiting and orita I will read the link that you let me see that I learn about softmod for Xbox 360, you are a nice person. thanks for answering my question. I wish you the best. I hope you are here in 10 more years: D

 

[Armadillo]

Waste of time, can learn to solder quicker than you can learn about the 360 and hope you find something that every one else than has worked on it overlooked.

 

[Jokey_Carrot]

RGH 3 dropped recently I'd suggest you have a look at that.

 

[FAST6191]

imagines being a common teenager and without knowing about electronics with a simple USB hacked into the Xbox, he would get several smiles from quite a few people

No doubt. However how do you think most of us learned to do anything? (any "I learned on the Amiga" replies will be put on my list)

As far as signing keys* then for the most part nobody gets those -- the PS3 (which in turn gave us the PSP) was so far the only exception we have ever seen, everything else being a workaround. I imagine the sorts of people that can make a presentation like linked earlier (or the various ones you might see for the 3ds, Wii, PS3) will have checked to see if MS screwed up hard enough to give us those. This then leaves brute force (not going to happen), MS leaking them somehow (can happen -- MS source code leaks often enough, Nintendo saw that whole gigaleak), someone tricking MS into releasing them (I imagine they have protections for that, and they are probably not accepting new third party code at this point anyway), MS screwing up a dashboard update (we did see an update recently, and various countries often have laws added on that need you to say OK, unlikely to include a bug that breaks security but who knows), MS releasing them of their own good will (unlikely, or at least unlikely before about 20 years from now), someone making a suitable list of prime numbers available (various security services have them/use them in the hope that something works).

*if you want a term to search for see asymmetric encryption. You have one key to sign, another key to decode. The signing key gets kept locked up tight inside MS' secure servers (or if you are Sony with the PSP then included in every PS3) as it quite literally is the key to everything.

 

[Daniels_-_]

Waste of time, can learn to solder quicker than you can learn about the 360 and hope you find something that every one else than has worked on it overlooked.

I do not think that anyone has overlooked anything friend, if so everyone would say how far they have been able to go and asking for some advice on how to jump to such a point to reach the goal, which is to hack the console. what stopped the softmod how was the creation of the rgh. just anyone tells you, why create a softmod that costs too much work to achieve, when you can solder a chip and that's it.

 

[Daniels_-_]

RGH 3 dropped recently I'd suggest you have a look at that.

I really liked it, but as I said earlier a discovery a little late due to the lack of interest of hackers in the Xbox 360. I do not criticize it, since thanks to it everyone will save money on chips

 

[Daniels_-_]

No doubt. However how do you think most of us learned to do anything? (any "I learned on the Amiga" replies will be put on my list)

As far as signing keys* then for the most part nobody gets those -- the PS3 (which in turn gave us the PSP) was so far the only exception we have ever seen, everything else being a workaround. I imagine the sorts of people that can make a presentation like linked earlier (or the various ones you might see for the 3ds, Wii, PS3) will have checked to see if MS screwed up hard enough to give us those. This then leaves brute force (not going to happen), MS leaking them somehow (can happen -- MS source code leaks often enough, Nintendo saw that whole gigaleak), someone tricking MS into releasing them (I imagine they have protections for that, and they are probably not accepting new third party code at this point anyway), MS screwing up a dashboard update (we did see an update recently, and various countries often have laws added on that need you to say OK, unlikely to include a bug that breaks security but who knows), MS releasing them of their own good will (unlikely, or at least unlikely before about 20 years from now), someone making a suitable list of prime numbers available (various security services have them/use them in the hope that something works).

*if you want a term to search for see asymmetric encryption. You have one key to sign, another key to decode. The signing key gets kept locked up tight inside MS' secure servers (or if you are Sony with the PSP then included in every PS3) as it quite literally is the key to everything.

I feel noob with your explanation hehe, but recently I got a file of about 300gb which they say contains several files from the Xbox 360 and one and the signature codes of this. who else has seen it? will be real?

 

[godreborn]

sounds like an sdk collection. I know of one torrent that has several, and it's around 80-something GBs.

 

[Daniels_-_]

Suena como una colección SDK. Conozco un torrent que tiene varios, y ronda los 80 GB.

and have you taken a look at the file? If what I say has any truth?

 

[godreborn]

I don't know what file that is, but I doubt it's the signature key. that wouldn't be supplied with an sdk. it's known only to microsoft.

 

[tech3475]

There were key leaks a while ago, however AFAIK these were for XBL and Xbone.