What are your most wanted source code leaks?

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Still Linux and OSX have open source kernels, Windows should too.
But why? What benefit would that ultimately provide to the end user? Or are you just hoping that someone will magically conjure up a version of Windows that is completely free and somehow superior to Microsoft's offerings?

There are ways they can mitigate the security nightmare that would cause as well. Give the sources to a well known group of people and have them go though the low hanging security issues and fix them for a while. Have a model where each vuln they fix they get payed or something and after a while it will be good enough to just put up on GitHub, a service that they own.
Except OS X and Linux still get reports of security vulnerabilities, and their users are probably a lot more enthusiastic about keeping their systems updated.

The source code of Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure to be able to use the bluetooth inside the cartridge for other uses of ds homebrew.
It's not possible to tear the ROM chip out of a DS cartridge and replace it with a different chip, is it? Or at least, it's certainly not usually done. It would be much easier to make some kind of clone with equivalent capabilities – except such a project is evidently not economically viable.
 

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It's not possible to tear the ROM chip out of a DS cartridge and replace it with a different chip, is it? Or at least, it's certainly not usually done. It would be much easier to make some kind of clone with equivalent capabilities – except such a project is evidently not economically viable.

I'm not familiar with the specific chip used in that game, but if it's the same chip used in every other game, it's possible.

As to making a custom flashcart, would cost $500-$750 or so for 10.
 

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I'm not familiar with the specific chip used in that game, but if it's the same chip used in every other game, it's possible.
I mean, are you familiar with examples of when people have actually done that?

As to making a custom flashcart, would cost $500-$750 or so for 10.
Yes, hence "not economically viable". Of course it would be cheaper if you could make hundreds or thousands of them, but the market for that is surely dead.
 

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But why? What benefit would that ultimately provide to the end user? Or are you just hoping that someone will magically conjure up a version of Windows that is completely free and somehow superior to Microsoft's offerings?

Except OS X and Linux still get reports of security vulnerabilities, and their users are probably a lot more enthusiastic about keeping their systems updated.

It's not possible to tear the ROM chip out of a DS cartridge and replace it with a different chip, is it? Or at least, it's certainly not usually done. It would be much easier to make some kind of clone with equivalent capabilities – except such a project is evidently not economically viable.

The community will help make it more secure than Microsoft can and compatibility layers like WINE could benefit as well as being able to make a universal driver shim for Linux.
 

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The community will help make it more secure than Microsoft can and compatibility layers like WINE could benefit as well as being able to make a universal driver shim for Linux.

WINE wouldn't necessarily benefit from an open source kernel, for example, Darwin can't run OSX applications because many APIs are still closed source.

I doubt we'll see Windows go partial (as in OSX)/fully open source unless either:
1) MS changes it's current business model in regards to Windows (e.g. making it more like Android or Red Hat)
2) It changes the Kernel to something like Linux
 

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WINE wouldn't necessarily benefit from an open source kernel, for example, Darwin can't run OSX applications because many APIs are still closed source.

I doubt we'll see Windows go partial (as in OSX)/fully open source unless either:
1) MS changes it's current business model in regards to Windows (e.g. making it more like Android or Red Hat)
2) It changes the Kernel to something like Linux

There are a couple minor things that are open source. They would still make money from the OS, buying a license does give you access to support. It is also super easy to pirate Windows. There are a bunch of different ways to do it and some are even supported by Microsoft themselves. (No I won't go into details about it) It is not like most people that use Windows will go out and clone the repo to try and build their own version of Windows.
 

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Bloodborne. That game deserves so much more than being stranded on the ps4. Its a masterpiece of design that runs like absolute trash. Beyond the garbage framerate lock it also has horrible framepacing and terrible drops in some areas. The input lag is also very noticeably higher than in the other souls games, not sure if this is due to the ps4 or the game itself.

Its also in desperate need of community fixes in some areas. Jump reverting to old controls with no option to change, not being able to rest at lamps (combined with the awful ps4 load times, who thought this was a good idea?) and chalice dungeon codes being locked behind a subscription paywall. Yikes. If these issues were fixed via mods it would probably be the best game ever made in my eyes.
 

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There are a couple minor things that are open source. They would still make money from the OS, buying a license does give you access to support. It is also super easy to pirate Windows. There are a bunch of different ways to do it and some are even supported by Microsoft themselves. (No I won't go into details about it) It is not like most people that use Windows will go out and clone the repo to try and build their own version of Windows.

I added '(as in OSX)' because I know there's probably a few open source things in windows.

I'm not saying it's impossible for them to go at least partially open source, I just highly doubt they will whilst sticking with their current business model and/or closed source kernel.
 

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I added '(as in OSX)' because I know there's probably a few open source things in windows.

I'm not saying it's impossible for them to go at least partially open source, I just highly doubt they will whilst sticking with their current business model and/or closed source kernel.

The only valid technical reason for them not to just do it today would be all of the 0 days that would come from it, and that can be mitigated. That is my main point in wanting this.
 

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I mean, are you familiar with examples of when people have actually done that?
I doubt anyone has ever done that specifically. I'm familiar with the cartridge hardware though. You'll notice I added a qualifier on my original statement: IF the cartridge uses the same MX chip that other cartridges use, you could do that in theory.

Actually, the cartridge chips have unconnected write pins. You might not even need to swap it, it might be possible to directly reflash. The chips probably have a read-only flag to prevent that, but could be worth looking into.

Yes, hence "not economically viable". Of course it would be cheaper if you could make hundreds or thousands of them, but the market for that is surely dead.
I said $500-$750 for 10. Enthusiasts regularly paay $150-300 for retro flashcarts, so I can see an enthusiast with disposable income buying one, and if you can find 9 other people interested, it would be around $50-75 each. Entirely economically viable.
 

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It's not possible to tear the ROM chip out of a DS cartridge and replace it with a different chip, is it? Or at least, it's certainly not usually done. It would be much easier to make some kind of clone with equivalent capabilities – except such a project is evidently not economically viable.

I wasn't thinking to rip apart the bluetooth chip.
Only to use the bluetooth chip when the pokemon cartridge is inserted in the ds/3ds. :)
 

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I wasn't thinking to rip apart the bluetooth chip.
Only to use the bluetooth chip when the pokemon cartridge is inserted in the ds/3ds. :)
Could probably be done if you reverse engineer the rom and figure out how communication works
 

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[pokemon typing DS]Could probably be done if you reverse engineer the rom and figure out how communication works
For what it is worth there is a hack that sends data over the network instead.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-game-hacking-for-learn-with-pokemon-typing-adventure.480825/

Personally I don't see the appeal or would find it even close to using my one wish for source leak. Plenty of other ways to extend DS capabilities, see stuff like DSSerial for one. While that will be for using network then any changes it makes will be directly related to comms so if bored you could probably use that as a shortcut to pulling it apart as that will tell you most of what goes, and if the chip is open then it probably has a datasheet that will do something for you.
 

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With all of the leaks the past few weeks, I figured we need a thread where you can post what your dream source code leak(s) would be. They don't have to be realistic, and they can be for any platform. It could be for a game, app, OS, firmware, or anything else that is proprietary. Obviously, if your wish comes true, don't post any leaks here!

Some that I can think of off the top of my head:
  • Wii U firmware
  • Switch firmware
  • any Nintendo games
  • Windows 7
  • Windows 10
  • Adobe products

Switch firmware so we can homebrew every switch without modchips

Amazon and Google source code so they can be attacked and taken down forever
 

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