Hacking POLL: Will you keep waiting for SX OS

[mikefor20]

It was announced that he was put in jail due to being a flight risk after the last update came out.

It was announced that he was in jail and then an update came out dude.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

More denial. And stealing from Best Buy wasn't theft. Anyway. No getting past those entitlement distortions. Let's move on.

SXOS has features Atmo doesn't.. Not the other way around. No reason to switch except feelings and wanting to be comforted by the dev team. Just use both and don't be a fanboy.

I mean, it no wonder is has most of atmospheres features, when its using quite a bit of atmospheres source code, without giving credit. There where even updates where they forgot to change the path, and it still checked the atmosphere folder for romfs.
Also the host file like dns redirection is a features sxos doesn't have, that atmosphere has. Also I don't think it supports the on the fly prod blanking atmosphere has. I think there where also other small features added to atmosphere in the last time, not yet in sxos.

Just use SXOS for USB. Online is still a probable ban someday on Atmo too. Could be what that last sneaky Ninty update is leading upto. Never truly safe. I run Atmo on. Clean no BS EmuNAND EmuNAND online. That's what i use it for primarily. Could get a ban for that one day too. You assume all risks.

Nintendo can't really release a update sneaky enought to not be noticed, where they send informations about cfw usage, the devs keep an eye out for that, and would just patch it out.
Also since I mainly play things like splatoon 2, there is no way to properly play them as xci, even with self created legit dumps, since these are games mainly played online. TX didn't bother to find a way to get the missing infomations send to go online with newer firmwares and cardriges/cardrige dumps, the one legit usecase sxos had, that was usefull for not pirating user.

 

[mikefor20]

I mean, it no wonder is has most of atmospheres features, when its using quite a bit of atmospheres source code, without giving credit. There where even updates where they forgot to change the path, and it still checked the atmosphere folder for romfs.
Also the host file like dns redirection is a features sxos doesn't have, that atmosphere has. Also I don't think it supports the on the fly prod blanking atmosphere has. I think there where also other small features added to atmosphere in the last time, not yet in sxos.


Nintendo can't really release a update sneaky enought to not be noticed, where they send informations about cfw usage, the devs keep an eye out for that, and would just patch it out.
Also since I mainly play things like splatoon 2, there is no way to properly play them as xci, even with self created legit dumps, since these are games mainly played online. TX didn't bother to find a way to get the missing infomations send to go online with newer firmwares and cardriges/cardrige dumps, the one legit usecase sxos had, that was usefull for not pirating user.

If you're running legit games online you can just use stock firmware on SysNAND..

Sxos has stealth mode. We also have 90DNS... As for online just... USE BOTH. Said it already. Don't care about stolen code one bit. Politics. "Somebody stole some code that was written to run stolen code" is not a reason, it's just wagging the dog. Atmo still doesn't have USB LOADING.

As for the sneaky updates, there was recently talk of an update that snuck under the radar and did not even require you to accept it. 11.0.4 or something? (I don't recall and i don't care to look it up.) Didn't Sony pull some crap like that in the past with the PSP or something? Three updates with what the hell code is that and turned out to be CFW killer? Nintendo might actually do something clever you never know. It's their system.

If you guys are so good at predicting the future please give me those Lotto numbers. Or at least tell me who's going to win the Superbowl next year. Come On Son!

 

[ZachyCatGames]

As for the sneaky updates, there was recently talk of an update that snuck under the radar and did not even require you to accept it. 11.0.4 or something? (I don't recall and i don't care to look it up.) Didn't Sony pull some crap like that in the past with the PSP or something? Three updates with what the hell code is that and turned out to be CFW killer? Nintendo might actually do something clever you never know. It's their system.

11.0.1 (v738264040), I wouldn't exactly say it went under the radar, it was immediately detected.
They're call rebootless updates and they can only update certain data archives, updating system programs requires an actual update. So there's nothing to really worry about there.

 

[Space_Goddess_Samus_Aran]

smh....some ppl...sometimes i ask myself why am i here

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i was SX user....but switched because i updated my sysnand to 11.0,1 (i am someone who has to have newest FW i am used to that).....i dont miss XCI loading....i mean who tf needs a 5TB HDD with 600 games....you wouldnt actually play even 10 percent.....everyone should use what they want......and second thing....no one else makes XCI loading....because it uses Nntys copyrighted code.....lmao

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not to be rude.....neither i wanna start a fight but, Mikefor20 is the one who acts like a Fanboy...no one else

 

[Deleted member 546149]

not to be rude.....neither i wanna start a fight but, Mikefor20 is the one who acts like a Fanboy...no one else[/QUOTE]
I know right
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[Space_Goddess_Samus_Aran]

xD

not to be rude.....neither i wanna start a fight but, Mikefor20 is the one who acts like a Fanboy...no one else

I know right
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[zoogie]

lol, update is coming SOON.
Nothing has changed for our old Gateway Team friends

We seriously need a Switch scene version of this:

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

the only reason to really care bout that is the .3ds compatibility.
same thing with SXOS the only thing that would matter at this point is the .xci
EDIT USB LOADING Too!

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If you're running legit games online you can just use stock firmware on SysNAND..

Sxos has stealth mode. We also have 90DNS... As for online just... USE BOTH. Said it already. Don't care about stolen code one bit. Politics. "Somebody stole some code that was written to run stolen code" is not a reason, it's just wagging the dog. Atmo still doesn't have USB LOADING.

As for the sneaky updates, there was recently talk of an update that snuck under the radar and did not even require you to accept it. 11.0.4 or something? (I don't recall and i don't care to look it up.) Didn't Sony pull some crap like that in the past with the PSP or something? Three updates with what the hell code is that and turned out to be CFW killer? Nintendo might actually do something clever you never know. It's their system.

If you guys are so good at predicting the future please give me those Lotto numbers. Or at least tell me who's going to win the Superbowl next year. Come On Son!

I use cfw on sysnand, and with booting stock I woul be less safe, because telemetry gets send again, and I also wouldn't be able to use things like sysclk to increase the performance, sysdvr for streaming on discord or the sysmonitor overlay to get the fps.
Also I never really trusted sxos stealth mode, it didn't prevent writing telemetry, like atmospheres creport and error implementation does, and its also imposible to check or update the list of redirects sxos does. Instead I tried to use atmospherescreport and error implementation as much as possible, even in sxos. Also the first thing I did most of the time, when I used sxos, was disabling the stealth mode, especially, since I wanted to go online anyway, with my self dumped legit xcis.
Others already answered about the silent updates, so I won't repeat that, but keep in mind, we are all not just guessing without any informations, like you would do for lotto, we are using informations from past behaviors of the team, informations about the team members and more as base of our predictions.

 

[mikefor20]

11.0.1 (v738264040), I wouldn't exactly say it went under the radar, it was immediately detected.
They're call rebootless updates and they can only update certain data archives, updating system programs requires an actual update. So there's nothing to really worry about there.

Rebootless updates were not the norm. Who knows what else could happen. Not saying it will but it could be something more sooner or later. There were other scenes that seemingly benign updates snuck in code under the radar that really messed everything up. That's all I was saying. Ninty MIGHT surprise you. And even if YOU see it coming doesn't mean it wont bone a shit ton of consoles. Kids always say yes to an update.

smh....some ppl...sometimes i ask myself why am i here

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i was SX user....but switched because i updated my sysnand to 11.0,1 (i am someone who has to have newest FW i am used to that).....i dont miss XCI loading....i mean who tf needs a 5TB HDD with 600 games....you wouldnt actually play even 10 percent.....everyone should use what they want......and second thing....no one else makes XCI loading....because it uses Nntys copyrighted code.....lmao

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not to be rude.....neither i wanna start a fight but, Mikefor20 is the one who acts like a Fanboy...no one else

I understand the Nintendo code caveat of XCI.. It's still a superior format. Just because you don't miss it doesn't mean other users won't. Just because you choose not to have a 5tb HDD doesn't mean nobody else can have one. I play ALOT more of them than you think. Kids play the rest. The hot swappable part is also awesome. So easy 6 year olds do it. And I am so glad they can. Choose your own destiny. Not mine. What's it to ya? How am I a fanboy? Did I say "Ditch Atmosphere completely and jump on the SXOS bandwagon Atmo sucks!?" That sounds like the type of rhetoric you Atmorons spew. You guys have the nerve to tell me to "buy a bigger SD and toss my HDD." You can run both!! What? You don't want SXOS commingling with your precious Atmosphere because SXOS is a bully and steals code? Please. You're the Fanboy. I just hate liars. I am not a fan of SXOS. Just a fan of Hot swappable Mass storage. You are just sharing a brain to try to impress your internet buddies. Fanboy.

not to be rude.....neither i wanna start a fight but, Mikefor20 is the one who acts like a Fanboy...no one else

I know right
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Whatever Polly, Still trying way too hard to be cool. If your MOMMY won't buy you a bigger SD you'll just steal it from Best Buy anyway. What do you care? I like my HDD and SSD You are just a spoiled propaganda pushing usurper with no real opinion of his own. Make another poll to see how everyone feels so you can adopt that point of view too. Jump on the bandwagon. You're still in denial.

xD

I know right
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You sure showed me with that wit and original thinking. Please.

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I use cfw on sysnand, and with booting stock I woul be less safe, because telemetry gets send again, and I also wouldn't be able to use things like sysclk to increase the performance, sysdvr for streaming on discord or the sysmonitor overlay to get the fps.
Also I never really trusted sxos stealth mode, it didn't prevent writing telemetry, like atmospheres creport and error implementation does, and its also imposible to check or update the list of redirects sxos does. Instead I tried to use atmospherescreport and error implementation as much as possible, even in sxos. Also the first thing I did most of the time, when I used sxos, was disabling the stealth mode, especially, since I wanted to go online anyway, with my self dumped legit xcis.
Others already answered about the silent updates, so I won't repeat that, but keep in mind, we are all not just guessing without any informations, like you would do for lotto, we are using informations from past behaviors of the team, informations about the team members and more as base of our predictions.

GREAT, Use both! DNS90 will take care of the SXOS stealth "trust issues".. Why do Atmo fanboys always have trust issues? Somebody stole the code meant to steal code? Go online in Atmo, who cares? I to do not go online in SXOS, I GO ONLINE IN ATMOSPHERE. And you are guessing about the future. Educated guesses are still guesses.

As I said before It doesn't matter if SX updates. Your predictions are and opinions are moot. There are currently over 3000 SXOS compatible games available for the Switch. A Mass storage solution is useful and will always have a place. Several users agree with me. They just don't say too much because they fear the SJW furries and their Atmo fanboys trying to lynch them.

I never said to choose.

That's your guys fetish. There can bee more than only one. I like to use both as well as Linux and Android. SXOS has it's place. And I think it kicks ass to have a 5TB with XCI that doesn't need installation, a 2 TB SSD for hand held and an array of flash drives all for XCI use with no hassle no install game play! What's it to ya?

 

[LeyendaV]

At this point, using an HDD for the XCIs is the one and only single advantage that SX has over Atmos, which is an actual possitive thing only if you wanna lose the portable factor and/or don't have a decent SD card.
I kinda get it from those who bought it on the ealy moments of the scene. But c'mon, we all know those who got it last year and are still using it, it's just cause they don't wanna admit they throw a few bucks to do the same things they can do for free

 

[mikefor20]

At this point, using an HDD for the XCIs is the one and only single advantage that SX has over Atmos, which is an actual possitive thing only if you wanna lose the portable factor and/or don't have a decent SD card.
I kinda get it from those who bought it on the ealy moments of the scene. But c'mon, we all know those who got it last year and are still using it, it's just cause they don't wanna admit they throw a few bucks to do the same things they can do for free

XCI USB loading is a HUGE advantage. I got SXOS at launch. First batch. And you can use an OTG cable for handheld mode USB loading. That's what my SSD is for. I have a 256GB internal for SXOS (first one I bought) a 512GB SD for Atmosphere/SXOS/Android/Linux(My current daily driver) and a few 128 cards and a USB-C SD READER that I hot swap for the kids on car rides with XCI only on them. They each have their own, some repeated games but you know how kids like their own SD cards... plus, since it's hot swap, no RCM injection to switch them out. USB loading is cool. Good enough to make SXOS a permanent staple on my Switch.

USE BOTH!

The other advantage is their modchips can be used on a Mariko Switch. Mine is an Erista (Launch day) but just sayin.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

XCI USB loading is a HUGE advantage. I got SXOS at launch. First batch. And you can use an OTG cable for handheld mode USB loading. That's what my SSD is for. I have a 256GB internal for SXOS (first one I bought) a 512GB SD for Atmosphere/SXOS/Android/Linux(My current daily driver) and a few 128 cards and a USB-C SD READER that I hot swap for the kids on car rides with XCI only on them. They each have their own, some repeated games but you know how kids like their own SD cards... plus, since it's hot swap, no RCM injection to switch them out. USB loading is cool. Good enough to make SXOS a permanent staple on my Switch.

USE BOTH!

The other advantage is their modchips can be used on a Mariko Switch. Mine is an Erista (Launch day) but just sayin.

It might be a huge advantage for you, but like I already explained, it lost its advantage for me, when it stopped working online. Also even while I still used it, I never used usb loading, since I need my switches to be portable, and also I never had problems to fit all my game dumps trimmed onto my sd card.
There are multiple use cases, for multiple people, so keep in mind, that people have different throughts on how importend a feature is.

Also what do you think might be the reason there is not that much trust in tx, if there was brick code in there, there where mutiple rushed updates, like the one I mentioned with the missing atmosphere path change, or updates where even the stealth mode missed some domain? Also how should I trust a company, thats just stealing code from other devs, without any form of credit, meaning, they say they did it all by themself?

About 90dns, never used that myself, same with the stealth mode, which I deactivated anyway always, and I'm also not using the dns feature of atmospher, except for the small telemetry server blocking, thats enabled by default and doesn't block playing online.
Also like I said, while I was still using sxos, I loaded creport and error from atmosphere together with it, and went online with sxos too.

 

[mikefor20]

It might be a huge advantage for you, but like I already explained, it lost its advantage for me, when it stopped working online. Also even while I still used it, I never used usb loading, since I need my switches to be portable, and also I never had problems to fit all my game dumps trimmed onto my sd card.
There are multiple use cases, for multiple people, so keep in mind, that people have different throughts on how importend a feature is.

Also what do you think might be the reason there is not that much trust in tx, if there was brick code in there, there where mutiple rushed updates, like the one I mentioned with the missing atmosphere path change, or updates where even the stealth mode missed some domain? Also how should I trust a company, thats just stealing code from other devs, without any form of credit, meaning, they say they did it all by themself?

About 90dns, never used that myself, same with the stealth mode, which I deactivated anyway always, and I'm also not using the dns feature of atmospher, except for the small telemetry server blocking, thats enabled by default and doesn't block playing online.
Also like I said, while I was still using sxos, I loaded creport and error from atmosphere together with it, and went online with sxos too.

I understand there are different use cases. I am just saying telling everyone to switch is myopic and ridiculous. A lot of us like USB loading and don't mind using both SXOS and ATMO if it comes down to it.. For now nothing needs 11.0.1. We're good.

I know about brick code. Day 1 user here. But to be honest... I don't care! Should have paid and followed instructions. Besides they removed it.

As for stolen code... I don't care. This is a piracy tool. Someone pirated that thing I built to pirate doesn't garner much sympathy from me. Michael is a good guy and didn't have piracy at heart while building Atmosphere but Reswitched knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. It's all pretty much a piracy for 99% of users anyway.

USB loading is convenient. So is loading XCI straight off SD. And like I said, Flash Drives and micro SD adapters and OTG devices work like a charm in handheld and are VERY portable. So does my SSD in Handheld! VERY portable. I made a little clip to attach my SSD to my switch and got a right angle USB 3.0 to Back end USB -C cable. Works AWESOME.

As for going online in CFW, I agree Atmosphere is better for online. The majority of the games I play are great without NSO. I rarely go online. When I do go online I go online in a clean EmuNAND in Atmosphere. No apologies.I left my SysNAND at 4.1 for Fake News. I love my setup. Bast case use case for me. Every time something happens the Atmo crew starts with the propaganda machine and tries to convince people to use Atmosphere exclusively. I say use both if you like. So what? I never said Atmo is bad. I said it's missing MY favorite feature.

XCI and USB loading is king.

Also the blatant lies from some of the people about SX saying it's useless or obsolete. Stupid as hell. They can suck it. And the "It will never be updated" B.S. has been going on since BEFORE the last update. Time will tell. They have been wrong before.Even if there is never an update 3300+ compatible games is a good enough reason to keep it IMHO. And lots of tempers agree. That's all I am saying.

Luma is my primary om my 3DSes but I do use my Gateway from time to time for extra storage too. I already own SXOS and Gateway. Why the hell not? I know how to use them safely and have a lot more storage because of them. Win win.

@lillithvalentine Open source is not benefit. It"s a feature.

 

[hippy dave]

@lillithvalentine Open source is not benefit. It"s a feature.

Of course it's a benefit. Doesn't work exactly the way you want? Change it! Original authors haven't updated it in a while? Someone else will! Curious how something works? Learn from it! If that's not a benefit, then neither is the feature that you've just been writing ten pages about.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Rebootless updates were not the norm. Who knows what else could happen. Not saying it will but it could be something more sooner or later. There were other scenes that seemingly benign updates snuck in code under the radar that really messed everything up. That's all I was saying. Ninty MIGHT surprise you. And even if YOU see it coming doesn't mean it wont bone a shit ton of consoles. Kids always say yes to an update.

Rebootless updates have been a feature since day one, they just haven’t been used until now, they’re nothing new.
They literally couldn’t silently update system programs if they wanted to, it could break so much shit, a reboot is a hard requirement, and they wouldn’t reboot a user’s system without the user allowing it.

It’s impossible for Ninty to surprise me with System Updates ;p

 

[Space_Goddess_Samus_Aran]

smh Mikefor20...........and if you had read right i said everyone SHOULD USE WHAT THEY WANT.....ugh some ppl dont read and talk.....i use both for myself.....only that i have 11.0.1 rn and can only use ams.....i have an SX License lol....and to insult me huh? Atmoron?...EXACTLY WHAT A FANBOY DOES..............insult me because i said something 'against' SX?.....poor guy

 

[MasterJ360]

Well just incase this sxos thread gets locked... again I will wait/don't update my sxos switch since it still holds valuable needs even if the support of new games stop. This is coming from someone who is currently in the PS4 scene its literally the same situation to those who refuse to update from 5.05 and have to rely on back-porting new games.

 

[Space_Goddess_Samus_Aran]

i mean its ok if ppl dont want AMS....i only said what i think and get insulted by some weird guy?....i have both myself but have to use AMS because my FW is 11.0.1. and i never said SXOS is useless

 

[tpax]

Why can't people just deal with the fact, that SX OS is the best, most comfortable CFW for the Switch? I mean, it's not even close. What's in it for you? Why even argue? Just use your fiddle-widdle CFW and be happy, if you can't afford SX OS. Are you also yelling at every Porsche driver, if you see one while walking outside?