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Someone should make an open source chip to flash Spacecraft-NX
that would be a game changer

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SX core is the only option at the moment. But they are hard to find due to the makers having being raided by the FBI and placed under arrest.
yea that why a open source would be great im all in for trying to do this. as far as paying to get the development going.
 

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Someone should make an open source chip to flash Spacecraft-NX
It's not going to be an easy thing.

It's my understanding that the way that the chip actually glitches to circumvent the security of trustzone in the SoC is technically illegal under the DCMA and will be very easy for Nintendo to stop the sales of those chips. No matter what firmware is on the chip.

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It's not going to be an easy thing.

It's my understanding that the way that the chip actually glitches to circumvent the security of trustzone in the SoC is technically illegal under the DCMA and will be very easy for Nintendo to stop the sales of those chips. No matter what firmware is on the chip.

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Trinkets/rcmx86/etc still going. Ship them blank and that's that.
 

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Trinkets/rcmx86/etc still going. Ship them blank and that's that.
That doesn't circumvent the trustzone. It stays fully in tact and isn't modified with rcm bug. So those are perfectly legal to sell.

The subject was for Mariko devices, which the only known way to mod it is the way that TX did it. Which as I stated before, modifies and bypasses the trustzone, which is illegal under dcma and other such protections internationally.

Reverse engineers much smarter than myself have deconstructed the SX core/lite and know exactly how it works and it seems to be from their point of view there's no way to make a "legal" version of that chip. Not one that Nintendo can't take down instantly.

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That doesn't circumvent the trustzone. It stays fully in tact and isn't modified with rcm bug. So those are perfectly legal to sell.

The subject was for Mariko devices, which the only known way to mod it is the way that TX did it. Which as I stated before, modifies and bypasses the trustzone, which is illegal under dcma and other such protections internationally.

Reverse engineers much smarter than myself have deconstructed the SX core/lite and know exactly how it works and it seems to be from their point of view there's no way to make a "legal" version of that chip. Not one that Nintendo can't take down instantly.

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Chips are blank so they dont circumvent anything and they can also be flashed for other stuff. This is why they are still kicking and not tx. SO make it blank and all good. LIke the old xbox days you had to flash your chip and MS stayed away.

But this is N we are talking about :whip:
 
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Chips are blank so they dont circumvent anything and they can also be flashed for other stuff. This is why they are still kicking and not tx. SO make it blank and all good. LIke the old xbox days you had to flash your chip and MS stayed away.
That doesn't change it because it's not just a bios chip replacement. The main reason those old xbox chips were illegal was because they used the xdk to write the bios. There was no xdk replacement and it was illegal to use the xdk without permission from MS. It's why all homebrew on the Xbox had to be gotten in gray area ways as well, because they were using the xdk. It wasn't because it was bypassing security (although that could be argued if the bios was made in a legal way and still played xbox games).

The instructions to glitch the SoC are programmed into the microcontroller (the illegal part) at the factory

Plus even blank, things are a lot different than 20 years ago. The bypassing of the security is illegal and Nintendo can very easily get them taken down. So if ever microcontroller was shipped blank and writeable, with a chip programmer, the point of the chip can still be very easily argued that it's used to glitch the security of the SoC, which is illegal.

Your point on the rcm bug mod chips is fine because there's no security being bypassed when you use the rcm bug. It's an exploit and everything stays in tact.

It's all about how the system is hacked. Using an exploit is perfectly legal. Breaking security is not.

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It's not going to be an easy thing.

It's my understanding that the way that the chip actually glitches to circumvent the security of trustzone in the SoC is technically illegal under the DCMA and will be very easy for Nintendo to stop the sales of those chips. No matter what firmware is on the chip.

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Any sort of circumvention is illegal under the DMCA. But the DMCA is a US law and not every country has a similar law.
That doesn't change it because it's not just a bios chip replacement. The main reason those old xbox chips were illegal was because they used the xdk to write the bios. There was no xdk replacement and it was illegal to use the xdk without permission from MS. It's why all homebrew on the Xbox had to be gotten in gray area ways as well, because they were using the xdk. It wasn't because it was bypassing security (although that could be argued if the bios was made in a legal way and still played xbox games).

The instructions to glitch the SoC are programmed into the microcontroller (the illegal part) at the factory

Plus even blank, things are a lot different than 20 years ago. The bypassing of the security is illegal and Nintendo can very easily get them taken down. So if ever microcontroller was shipped blank and writeable, with a chip programmer, the point of the chip can still be very easily argued that it's used to glitch the security of the SoC, which is illegal.

Your point on the rcm bug mod chips is fine because there's no security being bypassed when you use the rcm bug. It's an exploit and everything stays in tact.

It's all about how the system is hacked. Using an exploit is perfectly legal. Breaking security is not.

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You would simply have to buy the blank chip from a vendor/distributor of electronics parts, rather than a modchip/console modding store. They can't argue that the chip is intended for circumventing security when that is literally only a small fraction of the customer base. 99.999% of the customers of sites like DigiKey don't know or care about the Switch, they buy parts for their own hobbyist/professional embedded projects that are completely unrelated. Trinket, Teensy, Arduino etc. are all general purpose boards not designed for any specific purpose and it's likely many people on the teams behind them are not even aware of such a use of their products and it's not their responsibility to either.
 
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Any sort of circumvention is illegal under the DMCA. But the DMCA is a US law and not every country has a similar law.

You would simply have to buy the blank chip from a vendor/distributor of electronics parts, rather than a modchip/console modding store. They can't argue that the chip is intended for circumventing security when that is literally only a small fraction of the customer base. 99.999% of the customers of sites like DigiKey don't know or care about the Switch, they buy parts for their own hobbyist/professional embedded projects that are completely unrelated. Trinket, Teensy, Arduino etc. are all general purpose boards not designed for any specific purpose and it's likely many people on the teams behind them are not even aware of such a use of their products and it's not their responsibility to either.

You're also comparing the simple trinket board which is just functions as an internal jig + payload dongle to the sx modchip.

They are nothing alike, don't function the same at all, and should not be used as a comparison when stating people could just use their own chip.

The sx chip is an fpga that's designed for the job it does. Glitching the X1/+ chip.

If it was as simple as using an smt32 and a few wires, there would be homebrew modchips already. Which there are not. The SX core is more advanced than that, and it's very well understood how it's designed. If it was possible to build one with an off the shelf board, we would see them all over already as well.

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You're also comparing the simple trinket board which is just functions as an internal jig + payload dongle to the sx modchip.

They are nothing alike, don't function the same at all, and should not be used as a comparison when stating people could just use their own chip.

The sx chip is an fpga that's designed for the job it does. Glitching the X1/+ chip.

If it was as simple as using an smt32 and a few wires, there would be homebrew modchips already. Which there are not. The SX core is more advanced than that, and it's very well understood how it's designed. If it was possible to build one with an off the shelf board, we would see them all over already as well.

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Trinket compares to sx pro as they in same class. Mariko Unreleased chip to flash fw well we have to wait and see. I doubt any team has the balls.
 

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You're also comparing the simple trinket board which is just functions as an internal jig + payload dongle to the sx modchip.

They are nothing alike, don't function the same at all, and should not be used as a comparison when stating people could just use their own chip.

The sx chip is an fpga that's designed for the job it does. Glitching the X1/+ chip.

If it was as simple as using an smt32 and a few wires, there would be homebrew modchips already. Which there are not. The SX core is more advanced than that, and it's very well understood how it's designed. If it was possible to build one with an off the shelf board, we would see them all over already as well.

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FPGAs are reprogrammable and very much off the shelf parts. The only thing setting it apart from a general purpose board is the custom PCB, shell and extra components but those are not critical. An open source modchip would likely just use an off the shelf chip or dev board that you flash yourself. Just like the open source Wii modchips.
 
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well again we can sale blank chips . that are legal then everything else is easy peasy:) sale the affordable where everyone can be happy we not here to break the bank
 
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That doesn't circumvent the trustzone. It stays fully in tact and isn't modified with rcm bug. So those are perfectly legal to sell.

The subject was for Mariko devices, which the only known way to mod it is the way that TX did it. Which as I stated before, modifies and bypasses the trustzone, which is illegal under dcma and other such protections internationally.

Reverse engineers much smarter than myself have deconstructed the SX core/lite and know exactly how it works and it seems to be from their point of view there's no way to make a "legal" version of that chip. Not one that Nintendo can't take down instantly.

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Both give you arbitrary code execution on the bpmp and allow you do whatever the fuck you want on the CCPLEX (including running your own secure monitor).
If anything fusee is more powerful as it occurs before any lockouts, so you can read the secure boot key from fuses and dump the protected bootrom.
Selling modchips and w/e for the RCM bug is just as "bad".
 
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At this stage honestly, getting an unpatched tablet is far cheaper and easier than actually acquiring the Core or Lite and installing it. In the UK, eBay do sell unpatched Switches as complete bundles for effectively sub £200 or below mark. Far better option.
 
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At this stage honestly, getting an unpatched tablet is far cheaper and easier than actually acquiring the Core or Lite and installing it. In the UK, eBay do sell unpatched Switches as complete bundles for effectively sub £200 or below mark. Far better option.
This. Every time I see a sub-$300 (canadian pesos) switch that is RCM I buy it impulsively. I have like 7 switches, 3 with 256gb nand chip upgrades. All RCMable
 

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They're site is back up, and they list sellers for they're products. I looked at a couple sellers sites (in other countries than USA), but couldn't find any SX Chips for sale, only the RCM jig kit, so who knows.
https://team-xecuter.com/
 
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They're site is back up, and they list sellers for they're products. I looked at a couple sellers sites (in other countries than USA), but couldn't find any SX Chips for sale, only the RCM jig kit, so who knows.
https://team-xecuter.com/
Honestly even if I could buy one from them I wouldn't want to. Steal atmosphere code and add a skin, paint a giant target on their ass by advertising it for piracy, and then get deeply fucked by nintendo. Might have had a slight chance of slipping under the radar if they sold it as a separate company and shipped it with atmosphere and advertised it for homebrew or even lakka / android only (then conveniently leaked a way to install sxos on it). What they did and how they handled it was so dumb. They don't deserve your money.
 
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