Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[granville]

I don't believe enough Republicans in the senate will vote yes on impeachment, regardless of what is being speculated upon in the media. Only 10 (of over 200) Republicans voted yes in the House.

McConnell actively blocked an attempt to reconvene the senate prior to the 19th. And he said today he's "unsure if he'll support or oppose conviction and will review the evidence first" during the senate hearings. Even Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project (a grifter who behaved like a crazy maga-like racist prior to 2016) has issued warnings not to trust McConnell.

McConnell probably won't vote yes when the time comes. He seems to be strategically delaying the hearing until Biden's term starts. Making it where the first few months of Democratic control is stuck in impeachment quagmire. The GOP will drag it out and delay progress from being made on covid relief and other projects Dems promised. And their media spin will be something akin to "Democrats need to end their bloodthirsty obsession with vengeance that seeks to divide us all, they're holding up government aid, look how evil and horrible they are, vote for us in 2022 btw".

 

[djpannda]

The disrespect for our President is monumental, but just be happy you're allowed to criticize him. If we were under others forms of Government doing so would get you put in prison.

With that said I've seen the Left after the election have no transparency or urgency to thoroughly investigate voter fraud. It's highly likely Trump probably won one or more of the States that the official results claimed he lost in, but I don't think the entire court system and all of the election officials are all in on some plot to steal the election. The results were pretty damned close. We have what, 70 million people who voted for Trump? That's a pretty damn big percentage of the population.

I know some of you are holding out hope regarding Trump staying in office, but that's probably not going to happen. For those of you who haven't seen how bad things get when the Democrats are in the White House and control both the Senate and the House you're now going to have 4 years to watch all of the good Trump has done get thrown out. We'll be back to "This the best it's going to get" while the economy is utter shit under Biden. You see Chicago? LA? NYC? Detroit? Portland? Those are all examples of what Liberal and Democratic policies do. Now you'll just get to see the country deteriorate on a larger scale.

I hope you like what you voted for, but I have an idea you're all going to be just as miserable as you were for the last 4 years. I understand Liberals derive pleasure by destroying or controlling behavior so things are just going to get worse.

Enjoy!

""Thank you for allow me to complain, MASA
I'll promise to be GOOD""
...was that what you wanted to hear?

 

[White_Raven_X]

The disrespect for our President is monumental, but just be happy you're allowed to criticize him. If we were under others forms of Government doing so would get you put in prison.

This sounds exactly like what Trump is trying to do to the Republicans who speak against him. What about "lock her up" that he was yelling out about Hillary Clinton... What about "lock him up" that he starting saying about Joe Biden too....

DONALD TRUMP = LOCK HIM UP

Cause that's what's going to happen because he will get convicted!

 

[djpannda]

I don't believe enough Republicans in the senate will vote yes on impeachment, regardless of what is being speculated upon in the media. Only 10 (of over 200) Republicans voted yes in the House.

McConnell actively blocked an attempt to reconvene the senate prior to the 19th. And he said today he's "unsure if he'll support or oppose conviction and will review the evidence first" during the senate hearings. Even Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project (a grifter who behaved like a crazy maga-like racist prior to 2016) has issued warnings not to trust McConnell.

McConnell probably won't vote yes when the time comes. He seems to be strategically delaying the hearing until Biden's term starts. Making it where the first few months of Democratic control is stuck in impeachment quagmire. The GOP will drag it out and delay progress from being made on covid relief and other projects Dems promised. And their media spin will be something akin to "Democrats need to end their bloodthirsty obsession with vengeance that seeks to divide us all, they're holding up government aid, look how evil and horrible they are, vote for us in 2022 btw".

nah McConnell wants Trump out of the Republican party. I think he will delay till after Biden but this allows some Senators to vote yes without that much fear from Trump

 

[White_Raven_X]

nah McConnell wants Trump out of the Republican party. I think he will delay till after Biden but this allows some Senators to vote yes without that much fear from Trump

Also the senate will be majority democrat with Biden.

 

[Frankfort42]

This sounds exactly like what Trump is trying to do to the Republicans who speak against him. What about "lock her up" that he was yelling out about Hillary Clinton... What about "lock him up" that he starting saying about Joe Biden too....

DONALD TRUMP = LOCK HIM UP

Cause that's what's going to happen because he will get convicted!

As far as I know Trump hasn't made people vanish due to them criticizing him, his policies or decisions. There's reasons Trump wanted both Hillary and Biden locked up and both are not simply "They said something bad about me". In some countries they'll send you to reeducation/labor camps for years if you simply say you don't like your Supreme Leader.

You've also probably haven't been alive long enough or have paid attention to the Presidents of the past few decades. I highly doubt Trump is going to be arrested, tried and convicted over things he did during his Presidency. Government officials already operate on a different rule book then normal citizens do as most of them are criminal scum that deserve to be put in jail. Trump however was not part of the swamp, he was an outsider that shook things up. His policies did wonders for our economy. I know you have the Leftist media directing you to be outraged over petty bullshit so I understand why you think he should be arrested, but in the end it's just petty bullshit.

I'm sad Trump won't be leading for another 4 years and even sadder that the Democrats are going to be the majority as I've seen what their policies result in. Sad times, but life goes on. I just don't agree with the certain conservatives that claim Biden lost. It's pretty unfathomable that 60+ court cases turned up nothing yet somehow there was massive fraud. I hate to say it, but some of the Conservatives are being just as dumb as the Liberals have been for the last 4 years with claiming that Trump isn't the President or isn't their President.

 

[granville]

Also the senate will be majority democrat with Biden.

It's a slim single vote majority only with the VP tie breaker included, otherwise it's an even 50/50 split between Dems (including the two Independents who caucus with them) and Reps.

Convicting and removing Trump again requires a 2/3 supermajority. 51 votes isn't nearly enough. They need 17 Republicans to support it too. And given that only 10 out of the over 200 Republicans in the House voted no, that's not exactly great odds.

I'm obviously for impeachment if that wasn't clear. But i'm trying to be realistic here. I'm also not new to GOP tactics either.

 

[djpannda]

Simpsons did it again!

expect you know...LISA is now Biden

 

[Cryoraptor]

The disrespect for our President is monumental

Like how he's disrespecting democracy and over half of the country's vote?

Trump however was not part of the swamp

Oh get off it. He was born into wealth, was Democrat until 2008 and has been quoted as saying he'd run Republican because of how easy it is to manipulate them. Yes he is very much part of the swamp of the establishment that governs and surrounds American politics and is a perfect symptom of the problems in American politics.

 

[White_Raven_X]

To all you Republicans... Calm down! You will see how well the country will be run going forward! Just wait and see. You guys have been drinking Trump Kool-Aid for too long. Like you guys think that America will be over after January 20th. You guys may be happily surprised because Joe Biden is PRO USA, not PRO HIMSELF.

And to the idiots ( @Frankfort42) who think I'm a young kid who doesn't follow politics.... Just look at my profile... Yes that is my real age

 

[Cryoraptor]

You guys may be happily surprised negate Joe Biden is PRO USA, not PRO HIMSELF

Well, he can talk the talk. But can he walk the walk? The only thing we can do is wait and see.

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And to the idiots ( @Frankfort42) who think I'm a young kid who doesn't follow politics.... Just look at my profile... Yes that is my real age

I mean, considering your behaviour and the fact that you actually decide to point this out when no one has said otherwise, this would make some beg to differ...

 

[Joe88]

To all you Republicans... Calm down! You will see how well the country will be run going forward! Just wait and see. You guys have been drinking Trump Kool-Aid for too long. Like you guys think that America will be over after January 20th. You guys may be happily surprised negate Joe Biden is PRO USA, not PRO HIMSELF.

And to the idiots ( @Frankfort42) who think I'm a young kid who doesn't follow politics.... Just look at my profile... Yes that is my real age

its not biden they are worried about, its the far left who will just run him over and eventually take over

 

[White_Raven_X]

, considering your behaviour and the fact that you actually decide to point this out when no one has said otherwise, this would make some beg to differ...

Read what weiner wrote... The whole thing... If you did, you wouldn't say stupid things.

You've also probably haven't been alive long enough or have paid attention to the Presidents of the past few decades.

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its not biden they are worried about, its the far left who will just run him over and eventually take over

I didn't get that from what I read... But that won't happen.

 

[Xzi]

its not biden they are worried about, its the far left who will just run him over and eventually take over

If it was that easy for the "far left" to seize power from centrist Democrats, it would've happened decades ago.

It's all projection. The Republican party has ceded power to extremists, so they believe the Democratic party must be willing to do the same.

 

[granville]

To all you Republicans... Calm down! You will see how well the country will be run going forward! Just wait and see. You guys have been drinking Trump Kool-Aid for too long. Like you guys think that America will be over after January 20th. You guys may be happily surprised because Joe Biden is PRO USA, not PRO HIMSELF.

Senate Republicans can and will still obstruct with the filibuster, just as they did during Obama. The filibuster ups the required votes on most legislation to 60 votes instead of the regular majority of 51.

Though the filibuster itself can be nuked entirely with just a regular senate majority from what I understand. Harry Reid and Barack Obama have called for getting rid of it, and a lot of senators seem open to it. Biden previously said he opposes it, but seemed a bit more open-minded in the past year when asked what he'd do if Republicans abuse it to obstruct him.

However, there may be a problem with several conservative leaning senate Democrats. Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema have both said they would oppose ending the filibuster. And they've given no indication they would change their mind (Manchin seems to have voted against ending it in the past). If they continue to maintain that position, then the Republicans could still effectively control of the senate.

 

[White_Raven_X]

The filibuster ups the required votes on most legislation to 60 votes instead of the regular majority of 51.

I think this is what your talking about :

"under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate. (This differs from the usual requirement for three-fifths of sworn senators.)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate


After reading a little more on the subject, I've found more information that is of interest :

In 1917, the Senate adopted Rule 22 whereby a small group of senators (currently 16) petitions to “invoke cloture.” The petition “lays over” for two days and then the Senate votes to decide if debate should be brought to a close so the Senate can vote on the measure and move on. Until 1974, imposing cloture required a 2/3 supermajority; since then, it has been slightly easier at 3/5, or 60 votes. Another change is that it will take just one motion instead of three to go to conference, meaning some major legislation might once again be hammered out by conferees with subject-matter expertise. Only about 10% of legislation goes to conference anymore. The balance either dies or is resolved by trading amendments between chambers, a process known as “ping-ponging” that gives more influence to the leadership.

Source: https://gai.georgetown.edu/filibuster-rules-changes-epitomize-the-senate/


Very interesting, but I really do think that he will get convicted. This is my opinion.

On a side not, interesting how your last response to me seems almost "word for word" of the description in the wiki shortcut that I have linked at the top of this comment. Here's exactly what it says from wiki:

"At times, the "nuclear option" has been proposed to eliminate the 60 vote threshold for certain matters before the Senate. The nuclear option is a parliamentary procedure that allows the United States Senate to override a standing rule of the Senate, including the 60-vote rule to close debate, by a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than the two-thirds supermajority normally required to amend the rules."

Be honest, have you been reading wiki lately?!
If not, your like a walking dictionary... We can just direct all of our questions to you.

 

[djpannda]

ok this was funny
Pirate Bay is Enemy #1 worldwide for 20+years
Parler is down in a week.
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/brokep/status/1348194329005875203

 

[White_Raven_X]

ok this was funny
Pirate Bay is Enemy #1 worldwide for 20+years
Parler is down in a week.
https://twitter.com/brokep/status/1348194329005875203

That is funny, but understanding how websites like pirate Bay can move from one server to another and offering proxy websites, makes it hard to completely stop them. Peer to peer will for ever be difficult to stop.
Thank God for PB!

 

[djpannda]

That is funny, but understanding how websites like pirate Bay can move from one server to another and offering proxy websites, makes it hard to completely stop them. Peer to peer will for ever be difficult to stop.
Thank God for PB!

Cuz pirate are more respected than Nazis....

 

[tabzer]

I think it is good advice for everyone to prepare for a possible blackout of power and internet, especially if you are in the US. Have enough food, water, and heat for at least three days.