Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Lacius]

I think Trump is a symptom of a bigger problem. Hillary and the Democrats were so bad that America elected Trump, TRUMP, to be president, and don't get me wrong, he was the right choice in 2016, but it doesn't take a genius to see that he's a mentally unstable retard. American politics became so bad that Trump was the better choice in 2016, and Biden isn't much better. I feel like we'll be having the same convo in 4 years time where we're agreeing that he was the right choice in 2020, but was realistically a demented old retard who fixed nothing. It's too early to tell yet, but my gut says that's the convo we'll be having in 4 years.

I'm not sure how you can look at the last four years and say Trump was the "right choice" in 2016.

 

[Cryoraptor]

If there is no evidence for widescale coordinated election fraud, then we know that it's fake to claim that there was widescale coordinated election fraud.

You might want that to be the explanation for why Trump lost, but it's wishful thinking because reality burns.

It's incorrect and ignorant to suggest election fraud, but it shouldn't be against the law to express such view. If you allow cretins to express their idiotic beliefs, everyone can see that they are cretins, but if you censor them, you make it look like they have a point and you're trying to stop 'da trewth' from coming out. Don't play into their hands.

 

[smf]

I think Trump is a symptom of a bigger problem. Hillary and the Democrats were so bad that America elected Trump, TRUMP, to be president, and don't get me wrong, he was the right choice in 2016, but it doesn't take a genius to see that he's a mentally unstable retard.

Was Hilary bad, or did Trump manipulate people into thinking Hilary was bad.

Nearly half the country cannot see that he's mentally unstable now, the numbers weren't much different in 2016.

He probably wasn't the right choice in 2016.

 

[Cryoraptor]

I'm not sure how you can look at the last four years and say Trump was the "right choice" in 2016.

Because it would have been even worse with Hillary. That's my point; American politics are so bad that America decided to vote for Trump.

 

[smf]

It's incorrect and ignorant to suggest election fraud, but it shouldn't be against the law to express such view. If you allow cretins to express their idiotic beliefs, everyone can see that they are cretins, but if you censor them, you make it look like they have a point and you're trying to stop 'da trewth' from coming out. Don't play into their hands.

But when the cretins overrun the thread, like they overrun the capitol then what do you do?

 

[Cryoraptor]

Was Hilary bad, or did Trump manipulate people into thinking Hilary was bad.

Nearly half the country cannot see that he's mentally unstable now, the numbers weren't much different in 2016.

He probably wasn't the right choice in 2016.

No, they were both bad.

 

[smf]

Because it would have been even worse with Hillary.

Or do you think that because Trump told you that it would be worse with Hilary.

She is harder working than Trump & less corrupt than Trump

 

[Foxi4]

I think Trump is a symptom of a bigger problem. Hillary and the Democrats were so bad that America elected Trump, TRUMP, to be president, and don't get me wrong, he was the right choice in 2016, but it doesn't take a genius to see that he's a mentally unstable retard. American politics became so bad that Trump was the better choice in 2016, and Biden isn't much better. I feel like we'll be having the same convo in 4 years time where we're agreeing that he was the right choice in 2020, but was realistically a demented old retard who fixed nothing. It's too early to tell yet, but my gut says that's the convo we'll be having in 4 years.

I sincerely hope that the administration will be toothless and refrains from "fixing" anything that works, but I have a feeling that won't be the case given the fact that they'll be in control of both houses and the White House. With some luck, at least Biden will keep flubbing to keep us entertained while it all goes down.

 

[Cryoraptor]

But when the cretins overrun the thread, like they overrun the capitol then what do you do?

If they aren't breaking rules, let them speak. If they begin trolling and harassing people, it's time to swing the ban hammer.

 

[Lacius]

Because it would have been even worse with Hillary. That's my point; American politics are so bad that America decided to vote for Trump.

There is nothing to suggest it would have been "even worse" with Secretary Clinton.

 

[smf]

I sincerely hope that the administration will be toothless and refrains from "fixing" anything that works,

After four years of Trump the US doesn't have anything that works.

 

[Cryoraptor]

Or do you think that because Trump told you that it would be worse with Hilary.

She is harder working than Trump & less corrupt than Trump

No, I think that because she would be worse than Trump.

'less corrupt than Trump' Riiiiiiight...

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There is nothing to suggest it would have been "even worse" with Secretary Clinton.

Except there is. The no fly zone in Syria comes to mind.

Look, I'm not defending Trump. I agree that he's insane. But he was a slightly shinier turd than Hillary.

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I sincerely hope that the administration will be toothless and refrains from "fixing" anything that works, but I have a feeling that won't be the case given the fact that they'll be in control of both houses and the White House. With some luck, at least Biden will keep flubbing to keep us entertained while it all goes down.

I think it will mostly be an Obama 3rd term where he's selling a lot but ends up getting nothing done. For example, promises to end the divide and bring the country together. I seriously doubt he's going to accomplish that.

 

[Plasmaster09]

Did you really say im being favoured after literally coming back from a suspension and then try and get me suspended again for saying the election was rigged LOL you're so pathetic it hurts. Anyway here's an update. It's January 13th and the election was rigged. Try and not send me to the gulag.

ok so
you were vaguely kinda in the right since you didn't get suspended for spouting misinformation, you got suspended for being an asshole about it
and then you shot yourself in the foot by being an asshole about it again in the same ways as before

There were also actual machine bots, usually with silly names like "Science Reality" who posted nothing about science on their actual feeds and existed solely to call the President "drumpf" or repost unfunny memes. It was a bit of a shit show if you actually tried to read what was being said. Sadly I won't be able to demonstrate as the feed is no longer available. In any case, "hating Trump" was a presumably profitable enterprise.

In their defense, there's a lot of angles from which to hate him.
Also, only tangentially related but fun fact: the reason Drumpf is used as kind of an insulting nick-meme towards him is because it would have been his last name if one of his ancestors didn't change it to Trump... and it sounds so much dumber and less grand/powerful that it fits him a lot better.

 

[Doran754]

ok so
you were vaguely kinda in the right since you didn't get suspended for spouting misinformation, you got suspended for being an asshole about it
and then you shot yourself in the foot by being an asshole about it again in the same ways as before

In your opinion, I'm sure in somebody else's opinion I wasn't being an asshole. That's how the world works. I didn't break any rules at anytime. I've seen you say some horrible things, make accusations left and right with no repercussions and you don't see me clambering to have anybody suspended because IM AN ADULT and can handle differing opinions without defaulting too trying to have somebody removed. Im also 99% of the time respectful and try and make honest points or suggestions. Because you fundamentally disagree you just resort too baselessly calling me a troll or homophobic or something in that vain when im neither. People can disagree.

 

[Cryoraptor]

the election was rigged

[Citation needed]

 

[Lacius]

No, I think that because she would be worse than Trump.

'less corrupt than Trump' Riiiiiiight...

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Except there is. The no fly zone in Syria comes to mind.

Look, I'm not defending Trump. I agree that he's insane. But he was a slightly shinier turd than Hillary.

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I think it will mostly be an Obama 3rd term where he's selling a lot but ends up getting nothing done. For example, promises to end the divide and bring the country together. I seriously doubt he's going to accomplish that.

How anti-climactic. Not only did Trump later call for the same no-fly zones, but Clinton's call for the no-fly zones doesn't come at all close to suggesting she would have been worse than Trump. Remember, we are talking about a man who illegally separated children from their parents at the border and locked them in cages (some of them died, and many of them still haven't been returned), utterly botched the federal response to the pandemic that has caused nearly 400,000 Americans to die, and instigated an armed insurrection against the Capitol and the results of a fair a secure election. Gosh though, that Clinton and her proposed no-fly zone. Grow up.

 

[Doran754]

[Citation needed]

There's no citation needed, I'm not running for President or trying to overthrow Joe Biden. It's my opinion, If I or anybody else had a substantial amount of proof It would be on show.

 

[Plasmaster09]

In your opinion, I'm sure in somebody else's opinion I wasn't being an asshole. That's how the world works. I didn't break any rules at anytime. I've seen you say some horrible things, make accusations left and right with no repercussions and you don't see me clambering to have anybody suspended because IM AN ADULT and can handle differing opinions without defaulting too trying to have somebody removed. Im also 99% of the time respectful and try and make honest points or suggestions. Because you fundamentally disagree you just resort too baselessly calling me a troll or homophobic or something in that vain when im neither. People can disagree.

LOL you're so pathetic it hurts. Anyway here's an update. It's January 13th and the election was rigged. Try and not send me to the gulag.

h m m

There's no citation needed, I'm not running for President or trying to overthrow Joe Biden. It's my opinion, If I or anybody else had a substantial amount of proof It would be on show.

There's two types of opinions. The passive ones that don't claim things as facts (like a favorite color or a taste in fashion) and the active ones that assert themselves as true (like this bullcrap).
The passive ones need no citation, since they're not claiming anything objective.
The active ones are, and thus need citation.
Your 'opinion' of the election results is one you're peddling as fact.
Citation needed.

 

[Doran754]

h m m

I woke up too nearly a page of somebody crying and trying to have me removed AGAIN because of my opinion and you expect me too just ignore it? My opinion isn't against the rules.

 

[Cryoraptor]

There's no citation needed, I'm not running for President or trying to overthrow Joe Biden. It's my opinion, If I or anybody else had a substantial amount of proof It would be on show.

So you have nothing to support your opinion? LOL there's no discussion to have then.