Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[notimp]

Only time will tell if the witness is credible.

Which whitness?

Agent provocateur channel The Hill looked into every one of the 24 fraud cases brought in front of a court by Trumps team. One was 'ok, there might be something there'. One.

All other ones were baseless accusations, demanding stuff like 'we wanted to stand a few feet closer, redo the vote' and blatent accusations.


I mean sure - we all can say, lets wait until the courts have called this - this is literally, why you dont pronounce a president in the week after the election, but a few months later -- but really - "the whitness?"

Whats your thought process on this - someone calling in 'I've seen it, it was rigged.' 'Sure sir, you've seen it - but are you credible.'

Hey, most of us are still at the stage of 'none of this is statistically viable'. And you are still countering with 'yes, but my wives cousin knows a guy - that'...

I mean, what do you want? An education in applied statistics, that tells you, with people knowing, that they cant sell their vote, no one is bonkers enough to bribe them to try to get a second one to sell, from their dead grandma, and go to jail over it. On the scale of 150.000 coordinated cases in Georgia.

And there isnt anything more that surfaced by now. For all the accusations that are out there - this is simply not enough.

Especially not, because Trump announced a year ago what his plan on 'challenging the election' was. You think that thats just coinsidence? I mean, you could make the argument that every administration tries to do so, in case of a loss - but none, none more stupidly than this one.

Holding up literal letters from people that wrote in that have seen something by the dozen on Fox news.

Next time ask them how many of them have seen UFOs, update us how many letters you got there.

At least two of the major law offices preparing the legal claimes have left those cases, Giuliani is the new election fraud head of Trumps legal team... I mean what the...

"How many TV stations anounced the winner?" "All of them." "All of them, ha ha, all of them, haha, we''ll - dont you see, two weeks ago they all said it wouldnt even be close! Ha!" Giuliani?

 

[Sicklyboy]

Other than that, maybe you can go look for it yourself if you want it so bad.

Doesn't work like that, champ. YOU make the claims, YOU back it up. Shit or get off the pot, because it looks like your claims are even more full of hot air than you are.

You don't put your claims on public display before a lawsuit is filed. Giving the defendant even more of an opportunity to build their defense, form an alibi, or in this case, likely flee the country, is pants on head nonsensical. If Giuliani has shit to say, I want to see the court case. He's a lawyer and he can file a lawsuit. Otherwise, he's full of shit and you're full of shit too.

 

[morvoran]

The National Union Party freed the slaves it was not the Republicans. Slavery was abolished in 1865. From 1864 to 1865 Abe was part of the National Union Party which was made up of people who had previously been Republicans and Democrats. In fact Abes vice president Andrew Johnston was previously a Democrat.

http://factmyth.com/factoids/lincoln-was-a-republican/

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Doesn't work like that, champ. YOU make the claims, YOU back it up. Shit or get off the pot, because it looks like your claims are even more full of hot air than you are.

You don't put your claims on public display before a lawsuit is filed. Giving the defendant even more of an opportunity to build their defense, form an alibi, or in this case, likely flee the country, is pants on head nonsensical. If Giuliani has shit to say, I want to see the court case. He's a lawyer and he can file a lawsuit. Otherwise, he's full of shit and you're full of shit too.

OMG, have you not been reading anything I've been saying?? It's almost like you are writing prepared responses that just keep asking the same things even though I've already responded to you with what you asked.

 

[AmandaRose]

http://factmyth.com/factoids/lincoln-was-a-republican/

You are wrong again lol.


https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/267598/

 

[Sicklyboy]

OMG, have you not been reading anything I've been saying?? It's almost like you are writing prepared responses that just keep asking the same things even though I've already responded to you with what you asked.

I've been reading everything you've been saying, and you've been regurgitating the same old shit or dancing around the question every single time. All you've provided is 1) an article about a US citizen voting, 2) a post from a fucking fishing forum, and 3) word of mouth during a press conference. You've yet to provide ANY proof or anything that even comes CLOSE to resembling proof or something that shows that the Trump campaign is taking these allegations seriously. If there's a serious claim here there is going to be a lawsuit. I want to see the lawsuit.

 

[smf]

You don't put your claims on public display before a lawsuit is filed. Giving the defendant even more of an opportunity to build their defense, form an alibi, or in this case, likely flee the country, is pants on head nonsensical. If Giuliani has shit to say, I want to see the court case. He's a lawyer and he can file a lawsuit. Otherwise, he's full of shit and you're full of shit too.

You don't make it public because of defamation and not prejudicing a jury.

But the defendant has to have all the evidence, otherwise they can't prepare a defense and without that they don't receive a fair trial and get let off.

I don't think any of these trials are before a jury and defamation isn't something Trump seems to care about, so I would kinda expect him to just release everything before a case if he had anything.

 

[Sicklyboy]

You don't make it public because of defamation and not prejudicing a jury.

But the defendant has to have all the evidence, otherwise they can't prepare a defense and without that they don't receive a fair trial and get let off.

Right, but that happens once the defendant has been served. Not after someone says some shit on youtube.

 

[morvoran]

You are wrong again lol.

I just posted a website. How could I be wrong?

I've been reading everything you've been saying, and you've been regurgitating the same old shit or dancing around the question every single time. All you've provided is 1) an article about a US citizen voting, I gave you two examples of CANADIANS voting in the election 2) a post from a fucking fishing forum Doesn't matter if it was a porn site, facts are facts, and 3) word of mouth during a press conference Giuliani has more credit that most of the lame stream media propagandist pushing that Biden won this election. . You've yet to provide ANY proof or anything that even comes CLOSE to resembling proof or something that shows that the Trump campaign is taking these allegations seriously Again, Guiliani said it during a press briefing. If there's a serious claim here there is going to be a lawsuit. I want to see the lawsuit. Again, you have to wait for the trials to begin for the dem court employees to leak out all the information

 

[AmandaRose]

I just posted a website. How could I be wrong?

Actual election poster clearly says National Union Party.

 

[morvoran]

Alright folks, I wish I could say this was fun. Before I leave, I just want to say that Biden is not and will not be president of the US, but please, get your hopes up to the point that when you finally realize that Trump won, your sweet, sweet, oh so sweet tears will be so delicious and keep me going for the next 4 years until your side decides to steal the next election.

 

[Sicklyboy]

I gave you two examples of CANADIANS voting in the election

You gave an example of a US citizen voting in the election, and a post from a fishing forum.

Doesn't matter if it was a porn site, facts are facts

Hello FBI I have credible information that Morvoran of the gbatemp.net forums has committed massive amounts of voter fraud in the 2019 Bolivian election in order to attempt to install a dictator that will serve his personal interests. This is very real and very factual because I said it on the internet and I can't lie on the internet, no sirree not me.

Giuliani has more credit that most of the lame stream media propagandist pushing that Biden won this election

So then let's see facts. Where's the lawsuit?

Again, Guiliani said it during a press briefing

So then let's see facts. Where's the lawsuit?

Again, you have to wait for the trials to begin for the dem court employees to leak out all the information

So then where's the lawsuit?

@morvoran come on dude I didn't even have coffee yet by the time I started posting in this thread. At least try to show a LITTLE bit of backbone and make yourself look genuine.


Edit:

Alright folks, I wish I could say this was fun. Before I leave, I just want to say that Biden is not and will not be president of the US, but please, get your hopes up to the point that when you finally realize that Trump won, your sweet, sweet, oh so sweet tears will be so delicious and keep me going for the next 4 years until your side decides to steal the next election.

Bookmarking this so I can quote it later.

Edit 2:

Also @morvoran I want to put this out into the open, to make sure that YOUR definition of "facts" is the same as the dictionary definition of "facts". We're talking about things that actually happened and can be proven. None of which you've been able to back up. You have not proven anything to be true aside from the fact that you're arguing in bad faith, your judgement is clouded by your undying love for Trump, and that you're full of hot air. None of the "sources" you've provided have proven anything to be true.

 

[notimp]

If you give Trumpers the benefit of the doubt - and they really, really believe in what the administration is saying - it would be fair to 'wait on the courts position'.

Recounting this 100-minute cascade of madness is more than I can bear. But the basic idea laid out by Trump’s lawyers is that they have come across vast evidence of systematic voter fraud in “Democrat” cities (though the claims go far beyond such jurisdictions) that they can’t present publicly now, but are demanding that courts address immediately after the campaign files a battery of lawsuits tomorrow. Again and again, Giuliani shrieked at the “censored” media for failing to cover “evidence” that he then said the campaign couldn’t disclose either because (a) the witnesses to the immense Biden conspiracy were in fear of their lives, or (b) it was being held for review by the courts. At several points, Trump legal adviser Jenna Ellis angrily told reporters that the case they were making at the presser was just an “overview” or an “opening statement,” with all the facts and figures they asked for not being appropriate at this stage of the proceedings.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/giuliani-trump-legal-team-melt-down-in-insane-presser.html

Taking into account the 'quality' of evidence they have presented on TV so far though - its laughable. I try to prevent having to look up those 24 court cases myself, so I guess I also have to wait and see.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Something else to put out there, just to show a tiiiiny bit from my perspective - Fuck Biden too, he's as much a piece of shit as the next guy and I am unbelievably disappointed in the Democrats that THIS is who ended up being their presidential nominee, but I'm not deluded to the point where I'm willing to make up excuses out of thin air as to how there must be an untold MASSIVE number of fraudulent votes that could swing the election in Trump's favor despite ZERO evidence that there has been anything malicious that happened at even a REMOTELY significant scale.

 

[smf]

Right, but that happens once the defendant has been served. Not after someone says some shit on youtube.

Rudy had a press conference in a landscaping parking lot where he paraded witnesses before they'd gone into court.
People posting on social media are probably just going for views/likes and I don't know what that would have to do with a court case.

Bookmarking this so I can quote it later.

He'll never admit Biden winning anyway.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Rudy had a press conference in a landscaping parking lot where he paraded witnesses before they'd gone into court.

Well, I never said he was a good lawyer. At least I certainly hope it didn't look like I was implying that.

 

[notimp]

‘This Is Not a Fraud Case’

Keep an eye on what President Trump’s lawyers say about supposed voter fraud in court, where lying under oath is a crime.

https://web.archive.org/web/2020111...8/us/politics/trump-giuliani-voter-fraud.html

Since Election Day, the Trump campaign and its allies have filed more than 30 lawsuits that seek to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out.

Those over 30 (by now) cases, largely are not fraud cases.

Also - this:

A sizable minority of Americans believe Mr. Trump’s claims. A new poll released on Wednesday by Monmouth University found that 44 percent of Americans think we do not have enough information about the vote count to know who won the election. Nearly one-third believe Mr. Biden won only because of voter fraud.

Yeah, tell people how voter fraud really works in the US why wouldnt you.. (This is me snarking - that this is never going to happen, people worked too hard to pull up the systems. Sadly, mostly republican strategists.

Dems afaik didnt bother to as much, because they had the growing electorate (racial minorities (soon not to be minorities anymore)), where it then turned out they had not.)

 

[smf]

Well, I never said he was a good lawyer. At least I certainly hope it didn't look like I was implying that.

Sure, but I kinda expect to see some evidence on fox news or real donalds twitter if it existed.

It's not like we've had four years of a president who follows convention.

"A new poll released on Wednesday by Monmouth University found that 44 percent of Americans think we do not have enough information about the vote count to know who won the election. Nearly one-third believe Mr. Biden won only because of voter fraud."

People believe dumb shit that isn't true all the time, how many people believe it doesn't stop it being dumb shit.

 

[tiamat999]

Poor rudy was sweating bullet

 

[SonowRaevius]

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-us-news-elections-9343714a9376fcf46c344b95887414d0

And the trump failures continue, the hand recount of Georgia is in and Joe Biden still won.

 

[omgcat]

Doesn't work like that, champ. YOU make the claims, YOU back it up. Shit or get off the pot, because it looks like your claims are even more full of hot air than you are.

You don't put your claims on public display before a lawsuit is filed. Giving the defendant even more of an opportunity to build their defense, form an alibi, or in this case, likely flee the country, is pants on head nonsensical. If Giuliani has shit to say, I want to see the court case. He's a lawyer and he can file a lawsuit. Otherwise, he's full of shit and you're full of shit too.

not really a lawyer after not paying his bar dues and being suspended. he committed perjury by declaring he was properly licensed and in good standing when he wasn't. yikes.