[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[gregory-samba]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/geller-report/

Good source, totally not like, factually wrong most of the time.

So you list a liberal page that reviews conservative sites. Why don't you just step out of your bubble for a minute and live on the edge and read the articles I linked to. Once you're done you can then read the actual bill, which is linked to on the second URL I provided (it's actually embedded on the page so you can read it). See, the thing is you're not going to find information about what I'm referring to on a site that's in your small little bubble as no Liberals sites have any issues with Nancy and Co. including all sorts of "pork" in their latest relief bill. You gotta take a chance and live on the wild side. I know your programmers don't allow you to exit your little bubble, but I believe in you! You can do it!

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dont even try with these morons, anything that doesn't confirm their extremist viewpoint is fake news to them

Is this fake news? I swear your side is as dense as petrified wood.

https://www.scribd.com/document/452911706/Full-text-Nancy-Pelosi-Coronavirus-Stimulus-Bill

 

[Deleted User]

So you list a liberal page that reviews conservative sites. Why don't you just step out of your bubble for a minute and live on the edge and read the articles I linked to. Once you're done you can then read the actual bill, which is linked to on the second URL I provided (it's actually embedded on the page so you can read it). See, the thing is you're not going to find information about what I'm referring to on a site that's in your small little bubble as no Liberals sites have any issues with Nancy and Co. including all sorts of "pork" in their latest relief bill. You gotta take a chance and live on the wild side. I know your programmers don't allow you to exit your little bubble, but I believe in you! You can do it!

meanwhile it's not the actual site to check those kinds of documents.
also btw, that pdf file, is from charliespiering... who is a brietbart writer.
I can find the real one just give me one moment. As a fyi, you don't check bills by these people. you use congress.gov

 

[Lacius]

CNN just called Michigan for Biden. That means Biden has two likely pathways to victory:

1. Pennsylvania
2. Nevada and Arizona (Arizona was already called for Biden by Fox News)

He only needs one of those pathways to win. North Carolina and Georgia are also still very much in play.

 

[gregory-samba]

meanwhile it's not the actual site to check those kinds of documents.
also btw, that pdf file, is from charliespiering... who is a brietbart writer.
I can find the real one just give me one moment. As a fyi, you don't check bills by these people. you use congress.gov

So the actual 1000+ page bill that came from Congress in PDF format isn't good enough for you because the site that links to it isn't in your approval list? LOL. You really are fucking dumb aren't you. You can't even for one second consider what the other side thinks and hide from what they have to say like it would kill you to visit the pages. Oh well, you're loss. You're ignorance doesn't change the facts or what's in the bill or the circumstances around it.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

CNN just called Michigan for Biden. That means Biden has two likely pathways to victory:

1. Pennsylvania
2. Nevada and Arizona (Arizona was already called for Biden by Fox News)

He only needs one of those pathways to win. North Carolina and Georgia are also still very much in play.

Wisconsin is recounting because of illegal votes.

 

[KingVamp]

So, will the red mirage be our early Christmas present? Not as big as I hoped, but I'll take it, of course.

 

[Deleted User]

So the actual 1000+ page bill that came from Congress in PDF format isn't good enough for you because the site that links to it isn't in your approval list? LOL. You really are fucking dumb aren't you. You can't even for one second consider what the other side thinks and hide from what they have to say like it would kill you to visit the pages. Oh well, you're loss. You're ignorance doesn't change the facts or what's in the bill or the circumstances around it.

There is a problem with your pdf file quite immediately. If this is the supposed bill. Why is the house number missing? all documents made for bills have a number either starting with h or s and then the number itself. This tells what the bill number is. It's blatantly missing on that pdf. I kinda find that pretty sus if you ask me.

 

[gregory-samba]

There is a problem with your pdf file quite immediately. If this is the supposed bill. Why is the house number missing? all documents made for bills have a number either starting with h or s and then the number itself. This tells what the bill number is. It's blatantly missing on that pdf. I kinda find that pretty sus if you ask me.

Lol, so add paranoid to your list of traits. If you don't like the fact it's hosted on a file sharing site then go get it from Congress themselves. It's not "fake" because it's linked to by a page that you're not allowed to visit.

 

[Deleted User]

removal of that number to me, tells they didn't want someone to fact check it. Or else it would be realized that edits where made.

 

[Deleted member 414991]

Wisconsin is recounting because of illegal votes.

They're counting because it's within the legal margin to where you can request a recount, not because they 'found anything.' The recount will not change the outcome.

 

[gregory-samba]

Wisconsin is recounting because of illegal votes.

Doesn't surprise me. In the past most elections you'll have dead people voting and they always vote for Democrats. Just like the Impeachment or the planned stacking of the supreme court liberals have no problem with lying, cheating and stealing. I mean, they are bad people and all as they don't care about fairness or the rules. It's good though that the Wisconsin officials detected the fraud and are recounting. I wonder what side committed the fraud?

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They're counting because it's within the legal margin to where you can request a recount, not because they 'found anything.' The recount will not change the outcome.

Why was the recount requested?

 

[Deleted member 414991]

Doesn't surprise me. In the past most elections you'll have dead people voting and they always vote for Democrats. Just like the Impeachment or the planned stacking of the supreme court liberals have no problem with lying, cheating and stealing. I mean, they are bad people and all as they don't care about fairness or the rules. It's good though that the Wisconsin officials detected the fraud and are recounting. I wonder what side committed the fraud?

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Why was the recount requested?

Because trump is throwing legal challenges literally everywhere.

 

[Lacius]

Wisconsin is recounting because of illegal votes.

Fact check: Wisconsin is not recounting because of illegal votes. Wisconsin is recounting because the campaigns have the right to ask for a recount when the election results are as close as they were, and the Trump campaign requested a recount. There's no evidence of illegal votes. It should also be noted that a recount is highly unlikely to change the results of Wisconsin, given Biden's margin of victory and historical recounts.

If I were a Trump supporter, I wouldn't have lost hope at this point, but I would definitely be nervous. If you want hope, Wisconsin isn't the place to put it. Trump still has pathways to victory that don't include Wisconsin.

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Why was the recount requested?

Because Biden's margin of victory was low, and Trump wants to win.

 

[Ericzander]

Now Fox News calls Michigan for Biden. So he's at 264.

So if he hangs on to NV that's game over for Trump. Pennsylvania or Georgia would just be the cherry on top.

 

[Deleted member 414991]

Now Fox News calls Michigan for Biden. So he's at 264.

So if he hangs on to NV that's game over for Trump. Pennsylvania or Georgia would just be the cherry on top.

AZ is likely for Biden, but not guaranteed anymore.

 

[Lacius]

Linked below is FiveThirtyEight's interactive model for the odds of each state and the odds of a given candidate winning, given the states that have been projected as of this post (Arizona is omitted, since giving it to Biden is controversial, and Fox might have jumped the gun).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.co...,WY:1,M1:0,N1:1,N2:0,N3:1,WI:0,MI:0,ME:0,M2:1

As you can see, Biden currently has an 87% chance of winning given the results so far.

Here, you can find the interactive model with Arizona given to Biden. His odds then jump to 98%.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.co...,M1:0,N1:1,N2:0,N3:1,WI:0,MI:0,ME:0,M2:1,AZ:0

 

[Ericzander]

AZ is likely for Biden, but not guaranteed anymore.

Fair enough. That's true.

 

[Deleted User]

Lol, so add paranoid to your list of traits. If you don't like the fact it's hosted on a file sharing site then go get it from Congress themselves. It's not "fake" because it's linked to by a page that you're not allowed to visit.

Not allowed to vist eh?
so... for a supposed thing you can't visit, I was able to visit it just fine.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6800/text?q={"search":["heros+act"]}&r=3&s=10#toc-HB3D412DA78394F77885EADDCE739F995
you can thank me later for finding the actual bill. Now if you don't mind, I'll have to go through both bills to see if there is any changes (this will be a looong while). And if there isn't then we have to check if the article representation is factual. Since you can also link to something real and state something totally false.
going to throw a slight roast here. For someone who claims they are all about democracy, you clearly lack the tools your provided within a democracy.

 

[gregory-samba]

Because trump is throwing legal challenges literally everywhere.

I would hope these challenges have a legal basis. I voted for Trump, but unless he can prove widespread fraud and prove it fast he needs to step aside and take the loss (if he loses that is). Trump has spent 4 years fighting people who refused to acknowledged he won in 2016 so it would be pretty fucked up if he wouldn't accept the fact he lost in 2020.

 

[Deleted member 414991]

I would hope these challenges have a legal basis. I voted for Trump, but unless he can prove widespread fraud and prove it fast he needs to step aside and take the loss (if he loses that is). Trump has spent 4 years fighting people who refused to acknowledged he won in 2016 so it would be pretty fucked up if he wouldn't accept the fact he lost in 2020.

News flash, they don't. I'd say hedge your disappointment early.