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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

For whom will/would you vote?


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Lacius

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Enthusiasm for Biden is almost non-existent. You can see the videos for the anti-communist Latinos for Trump caravan that occurred.

Can't say the same for Biden.

And as for news organizations and their bias, LOL.

Just today CNN skipped much live footage of the ACB hearing, can't have the people seeing anything they don't have the chance to cut out anything they don't want people to see.

If you are trying to argue CNN is more objective overall than Fox. Too funny.

Did CNN report on how Biden said that voters don't deserve to know his stance on court packing? Can't seem to find that.
There's plenty of enthusiasm for Biden.

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"I'm running as a proud Democrat for the Senate"

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Trump says stupider things and far more frequently. Also, who cares about an obvious gaff from someone who has run for Senate far more than he has run for president?
 

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I guess this is part of the reason Joe could not keep it together today when he said he was running for the senate.

Is Joe talking to like 5 people?


 

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oh no, Biden might lose OHIO! what will he do? oh wait, let's ignore Biden's massive lead in MI, NV, PA, WI, and slight leads in AZ, FL, and NC. once again, all Biden needs to win the EC is WI, and PA. if he gets both of those, it becomes impossible for trump to win. Ohio is a coin flip right now, but unnecessary for a EC victory. the 50 point lead with younger voters is also insane, especially since most of them are out of school and have no jobs because of the shitty COVID response and want to vote to show their rage. the projected younger voter rate is double that of 2016, going from 13% to a projected 26+%. trump is fucked if students actually go and vote. on top of that Trump shit the bed with women voters, which is a necessary voting block for victory.
 
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There's plenty of enthusiasm for Biden.
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oh no, Biden might lose OHIO! what will he do? oh wait, let's ignore Biden's massive lead in MI, NV, PA, WI, and slight leads in AZ, FL, and NC. once again, all Biden needs to win the EC is WI, and PA. if he gets both of those, it becomes impossible for trump to win. Ohio is a coin flip right now, but unnecessary for a EC victory. the 50 point lead with younger voters is also insane, especially since most of them are out of school and have no jobs because of the shitty COVID response and want to vote to show their rage. the projected younger voter rate is double that of 2016, going from 13% to a projected 26+%. trump is fucked if students actually go and vote. on top of that Trump shit the bed with women voters, which is a necessary voting block for victory.
I know, I know, but enthusiasm!? Thanks for a couple laughs guys, its been a rough day.
 

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I know, I know, but enthusiasm!? Thanks for a couple laughs guys, its been a rough day.

yeah, kind of hard to show your enthusiasm when the other side runs around with guns out and cheers for summary executions of peaceful protestors, commits domestic terrorism, and has senators saying shit like "If you are a young, African American, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this State. You just need to be conservative, not liberal."
 
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I know, I know, but enthusiasm!? Thanks for a couple laughs guys, its been a rough day.
You might want to check the enthusiasm numbers instead of accepting something as true merely because it feels true. In addition to looking less foolish, you'd be more informed for doing so.

In the latest ABC/Washington Post poll, when asked Would you say you are very enthusiastic about supporting Biden, somewhat enthusiastic, not so enthusiastic or not enthusiastic at all, the results were:
  • 52% say very enthusiastic
  • 34% say somewhat enthusiastic
That's an 86% net enthusiasm, which is pretty good.
 
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I guess this is what you get when you let Joe go past 10:00 AM.

Forgot which state he was in. (Tweeted that he was in Pennsylvania when he was actually in Ohio)
Forgot Mitt Romney's name and instead referred to him as "a Mormon."
Forgot which office he was running for.
 
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"My party good, your party bad"
That's foolish Lacius, but its a game you play.
enthusiasm numbers
I really don't give a shit. I'm actually voting Biden just so we can reduce presidential seat to a single term. Would love to implement the grand solution of voting term limits to all seats of government, but you motherfuckers are preventing that from ever happening.
 

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I guess this what you get when you let Joe go past 10:00 AM.

Forgot which state he was in. (Tweeted that he was in Pennsylvania when he was actually in Ohio)
Forgot Mitt Romney's name and instead referred to him as "a Mormon."
Forgot which office he was running for.
Could you link to the Tweet please?

You don't have any evidence he forgot Mitt Romney's name.

If you listen to the whole speech, a.) You can see Biden knew he was running for president, and b.) You can see which words were mixed up.
“And, America, we can do anything that we need to do if we can do it together. Nothing can stop us. You know, we have to come together.

“That’s why I’m running – I’m running as a proud Democrat for the Senate.

“And, I ran as a proud Democrat for vice president. I’m running as a proud Democrat for president.

“But, I promise you this: I will govern as an American president. I will govern for everybody who voted for me as well as against me.”
He clearly meant to say I "ran" as a proud Democrat for Senate. As I said before, Trump says much stupider nonsense, and Trump does it far more frequently. Biden's speech here also wasn't that big of a gaffe. It's not much of a reason to vote for or against somebody, especially given Biden's opponent.

"My party good, your party bad"
That's foolish Lacius, but its a game you play.
That is foolish. It's a good thing I never said that.

I really don't give a shit.
People who care more about what feels true than what is true typically don't give a shit.

Would love to implement the grand solution of voting term limits to all seats of government, but you motherfuckers are preventing that from ever happening.
Term limits only really make a lot of sense at the executive level.
 
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Well, afaik, the House Democrats are at least trying to add term limits to the supreme court.
Interestingly, adding members to the Supreme Court would solve a lot of the problems with the Supreme Court. Justices wouldn't feel compelled to stay on the court their whole lives, several appointments by one president wouldn't dramatically alter the composition of the court for a lifetime, etc.
 

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Could you link to the Tweet please?

You don't have any evidence he forgot Mitt Romney's name.

If you listen to the whole speech, a.) You can see Biden knew he was running for president, and b.) You can see which words were mixed up.

He clearly meant to say I "ran" as a proud Democrat for Senate. As I said before, Trump says much stupider nonsense, and Trump does it far more frequently. Biden's speech here also wasn't that big of a gaffe. It's not much of a reason to vote for or against somebody, especially given Biden's opponent.

Find it yourself. All 3 things he did today, no matter how you justify it, it does not change the facts.

Actually I still do have the Romney one.

 
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noooo....:cry:Sighhhh...if only I could change your (and the population's) mind. We would be in a much better place.
It kind of helps when lawmakers know how to make laws. That's why the legislative branch typically doesn't have term limits.

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Find it yourself. All 3 things he did today, no matter how you justify it, it does not change the facts.

Actually I still do have the Romney one.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1315694292309028864
  1. You don't know that Biden forgot Mitt Romney's name.
  2. If Biden did forget Mitt Romney's name, who cares? It's not a big gaffe, and there are figuratively 1,000 Trump absurdities for each one of Biden's gaffes.
I'd also like to see the Tweet before I accept it as true. Without seeing the Tweet, I can speculate that Biden didn't post it himself (many politicians don't run their own Twitter accounts, and their posts aren't necessarily them unless the Tweets are signed).
 
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Find it yourself. All 3 things he did today, no matter how you justify it, it does not change the facts.

Actually I still do have the Romney one.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1315694292309028864

doesn't change the fact that Biden makes mistakes in about 1 in 13 speeches, while Trump spews bullshit non-stop 24/7. at least Biden speaks at above a 5th grade level. granted speaking at a 5th grade level might appeal more to Trump's base.
 
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doesn't change the fact that Biden makes mistakes in about 1 in 13 speeches, while Trump spews bullshit non-stop 24/7. at least Biden speaks at above a 5th grade level. granted speaking at a 5th grade level might appeal more to Trump's base.

I love how you guys double down on it.

Biden is barely keeping it together mentally at any given time. Most people can see that. And that is why they limit him so much.

It's all about handling him.

I think it is another reason he will lose.
 

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I love how you guys double down on it.

Biden is barely keeping it together mentally at any given time. Most people can see that. And that is why they limit him so much.

It's all about handling him.

I think it is another reason he will lose.
Trump is the one who is barely keeping it together mentally at any given time.
 
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I love how you guys double down on it.

Biden is barely keeping it together mentally at any given time. Most people can see that. And that is why they limit him so much.

It's all about handling him.

I think it is another reason he will lose.

seems like you never actually pay attention to any of his great speeches, cause you're to busy trying to discredit him. if you could point to a single speech by trump that has garnered applause from a majority of people, I'd like to see it.

for that matter, in his 4 years I'm not sure trump has given a speech that would pass 8th grade English standards.
 
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seems like you never actually pay attention to any of his great speeches, cause you're to busy trying to discredit him. if you could point to a single speech by trump that has garnered applause from a majority of people, I'd like to see it.

Are you talking about speeches where he reads verbatim what is on the teleprompter text?

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LOL, yeah right.
 

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Are you talking about speeches where he reads verbatim what is on the teleprompter text?

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LOL, yeah right.

imagine having a presidential candidate that can't even give a good speech with a teleprompter.

All sorts of politicians have been using teleprompters/written cards for years. GWB used written cards, Obama used a teleprompter, Reagan used written cards. Almost all presidential speeches are planned, and people use cards and teleprompters.
 
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