In their Happy Holidays Greeting Today, TX Dropped a Bombshell of a Teaser Video

Never say Impossible, as it seems Team-Xecuter has done the impossible, as their Happy Holidays Greeting comes with a jaw-dropping video!

Happy holidays season from everyone at Team-Xecuter!

We rocked the Switch in 2019 and with the year soon over, here is a little teaser of one of the things to come early 2020!

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Source: MaxConsole

 

[RedHunter]

Do you guys think even the old Switch would be able to run SX without the dongle like in the video? If yes with an hw mod too I guess?

It would be so good for people like me not banned that switch often between the two nands, you can reboot to sysnand from emunand but not the opposite atm.

 

[smf]

"There is more than one coldboot bootrom exploit" it is literally right there. Am I missing something? Also, fusee gelee isn't a coldboot exploit.

Fusee gelee claims it is.

This report documents Fusée Gelée, a coldboot vulnerability that allows full, unauthenticated arbitrary code execution from an early bootROM context via Tegra Recovery Mode (RCM) on NVIDIA's Tegra line of embedded processors.

You're missing the ability to think objectively. TX are saying in response to fusee gelee being patched that there is more than one, you have to accept from context that they may be saying that fusee gelee is one of those coldboot bootrom exploits and they have another in addition. They don't need more than one in addition to fusee gelee for them to be telling the truth.

Those who are paying attention probably wonder how we know the exact details of this IPATCH entry change, since we can't read out the fuses without our precious USB RCM exploit, right? It is a classic chicken and egg problem. The answer is obvious: There is more than one coldboot bootrom exploit, and it is not just the warmboot one.

The bootrom didn't actually change when the switches were ipatched. Until mariko came out, I did wonder if their exploit just caused the switch to not apply the ipatches. It could just be a misunderstanding on your part of what they are saying that is your basis for your "evidence".

That's why I said likely and also it'll take more than 1 millisecond per attempt. I'd guess 1-2 seconds per attempt.

Unless your suspicion is wrong & your only justification for your suspicion is that you have been suspicious since they announced that they had another exploit. Maybe they are cleverer than your friend? Or luckier? Or more motivated? Or have more resources?

Do you think they faked the moon landings as well? I bet none of your friends have managed to launch a manned rocket to the moon, so you should be suspicious.

 

[LapCheong]

Please delay the release so more people can jump on the switch lite train

For sure there are a lot of user cant get a modded switch ( at least in my country )

 

[Acide0]

Yeah, I'll buy one if it's solderless. Otherwise I'm waiting for a software hack.

So wait a lot and continu to buy your games that ok

 

[DbGt]

I'm wondering how they did it. The Switch Lite has anti-glitching measures in place specifically to stop things like this happening.

Also, it's very likely this will take hundreds of attempts to execute (which they haven't mentioned at all).

Apart from that, nice job TX. You've finally contributed something worthwhile (that isn't related to piracy) to the scene.

EDIT: Wait, fixed angles and the colour of the video changing after he loads a game (although that could be the camera focusing) and that the Switch Lite literally never moves. It looks like they're running it off an browser exploit to play an edited video.
Yeah sorry, I'm smelling bullshit.

This guys a joke, didnt you said in multiple threads you were waiting to eat your words? Just accept it, its time you eat some crow

 

[_hexkyz_]

Hexkyz straight up said this is possible months ago it's only Reswitch I've seen saying this is fake (people seem to think all open source devs have the same agenda but this is far from the truth). He even said it was likely to be a hardware glitching attack because that it what TX have done for other consoles in the past.

It wasn't hexkyz who said that it was one of the switchbrew guys (I can't remember which one). Iirc he posted a screenshot of the other dev saying that but didn't say that himself.

Edit: why not just ping @hexkyz and just clear it up. I could be wrong but that's not how I remember it happening.

Yes, you are right but you're wasting your time trying to debate this.

yes he did but he first posted on here how he had 'set up' TX with some kind of fake exploit and TX had nothing. It was only when Costello one of the owners of gbatemp posted that he would regret what he posted , Hexkyz then posted what you said. so it look like Costello was right that TX had something.

hahah missed you were in the UK , yes it's definitely on here. costello replied to him saying he would regret what he posted and it looks like he might be

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For those with poor memories...

https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xe...est-switch-models.551125/page-24#post-8843116

Originally he said impossible, then back tracked it to a maybe. Sad little attempts to save face and now he’ll just brush it off.

sciresm and hexkis
both are AWOL since the new video was posted

Here:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xe...est-switch-models.551125/page-17#post-8842348
https://gbatemp.net/threads/more-in...ds-by-team-xecuter.551848/page-2#post-8853273
https://gbatemp.net/threads/more-in...ds-by-team-xecuter.551848/page-3#post-8853328
https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xe...est-switch-models.551125/page-42#post-8852084

I know I'm wasting my time since the facts go directly against your "TX are gods, open-source developers are the devil" narrative, but those posts are the truth. Please stop putting words in my (metaphorical) mouth.

For those who actually cared reading:
1) The rumor that sparked all this was false;
2) TX was caught off guard as their solution wasn't quite ready yet and they were still waiting for CCC or announcements from open-source developers. This explains the delay in showcasing proof;
3) TX is now starting to reveal their solution.

This is exactly one of the outcomes I predicted on the very first post and it fully proved how TX are vulnerable to the same social engineering tactics they once employed on the open-source community.

If you recall how things played out in 2017, TX showcased a video where they replaced the boot logo with "Xecuter". During that time they also began posting information to the wiki that proved their access to the system. This resulted in open-source developers rushing to compete which eventually led to the discovery and publishing of the RCM bug which TX then decided to use. Well played.
This time I wanted to see if the tables could be turned, which they did as TX was forced to make a move before the open-source developers. If my next prediction is correct, we shall see a glitching solution from TX, which they have been working since 2017 and saving as a last resort.

We are now free to manage our own exploits (which we totally don't have, it's impossible to hack the new units ) for Mariko/Lite as we deem fit knowing they won't be taken for profit as before.

By the way, I said this before as well:
"Regarding the HDEV situation, if TX has a solution that compromises the early boot chain, they can easily disprove this by showcasing a full boot up on a Switch. What I've mentioned isn't powerful enough to compromise the system that much. So no, they are not damned if they do and damned if they don't."

Which is exactly what they've demonstrated in the video. Therefore, I have no reason whatsoever to think the video is fake or staged and this debate around the person tapping multiple times is nonsensical.

 

[8BitWonder]

This thread really went to Hell and then kept digging, huh?

I'm glad to see TX put up a video of this in action, a product like this will only help move the scene forward onto Lites (and hopefully more ipatched units).
(I'm personally happy to see something they for sure worked on themselves)

If you're fine with TX just grab whatever they're making, if not grab the clone or OS variants that will inevitably pop up.

 

[PhyChris]

is the Atmosphere dev (love atmos) even a hacker? why relate a software dev to hardware hacking? What is going on with this TX pure hate? Think, money makes the world go round.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

is the Atmosphere dev (love atmos) even a hacker? why relate a software dev to hardware hacking? What is going on with this TX pure hate? Think, money makes the world go round.

There are multiple atmosphere devs. Because it's open source anyone who wants to contribute can. All they have to do is clone the git repo, make their changes, then do a pr which will then be merged in to Atmosphere's code base. The main dev SciresM is a hacker, he helped discover many exploits on the 3ds including sighax / magnet hax. He discovered the majority of full stack software hacks for the switch too. Here's a list of exploits and who discovered them https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Switch_System_Flaws .

Edit: I'm not sure if he's a hardware hacker but he's spent 5 hours a day everyday since the switch released reverse engineering the software.

 

[PhyChris]

There are multiple atmosphere devs. Because it's ooen source anyone who wants to contribute can. All they have to do is one the git repo, make their changes, then do a pr which will then be merged in to Atmosphere's code base. The main dev SciresM is a hacker, he helped discover mang exploits on the 3ds including sighax / magbet hax. He discovered the majority of full stack software hacks for the switch too. Here's a list of exploits and who discovered them https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Switch_System_Flaws .

Edit: I'm not sure if he's a hardware hacker but he's spent 5 hours a day everyday since the switch released reverse engineering the software.

Cool. software hacking is a bitch

 

[JoeBloggs777]

Yes, you are right but you're wasting your time trying to debate this.

Here:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xe...est-switch-models.551125/page-17#post-8842348
https://gbatemp.net/threads/more-in...ds-by-team-xecuter.551848/page-2#post-8853273
https://gbatemp.net/threads/more-in...ds-by-team-xecuter.551848/page-3#post-8853328
https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xe...est-switch-models.551125/page-42#post-8852084

I know I'm wasting my time since the facts go directly against your "TX are gods, open-source developers are the devil" narrative, but those posts are the truth. Please stop putting words in my (metaphorical) mouth.

You've not mentioned this which was posted earlier in the thread. I take it you are included in the 'We' ?

 

[Essasetic]

Alright, I'll eat my words out. TX does have a solution. I started this when I literally just woke up and wasn't in the best state of mind (and also some of the things I said was pretty idiotic).

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So apologies for that. I've also realized it's pretty much a win-win situation for the scene. So can't wait for that.

 

[smf]

You've not mentioned this which was posted earlier in the thread. I take it you are included in the 'We' ?

I think he covered that

We are now free to manage our own exploits (which we totally don't have, it's impossible to hack the new units ) for Mariko/Lite as we deem fit knowing they won't be taken for profit as before.

It seems you shouldn't take everything SciresM says at face value (especially legal advice on key copyrights, which he plainly doesn't understand).
Or hex might be trolling, kinda hard to tell really.

 

[_hexkyz_]

You've not mentioned this which was posted earlier in the thread. I take it you are included in the 'We' ?

I'm not.
Regardless, I think you still haven't understood that everyone is being played by both "sides".

 

[isoboy]

Joke IS on you, scriscriM. Thanks, TX.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

I'm not.
Regardless, I think you still haven't understood that everyone is being played by both "sides".

Thanks I think your'e right

 

[PatchTuesday]

Hexkyz straight up said this is possible months ago it's only Reswitch I've seen saying this is fake (people seem to think all open source devs have the same agenda but this is far from the truth). He even said it was likely to be a hardware glitching attack because that it what TX have done for other consoles in the past.

As per _hexkyz_ on this post - https://gbatemp.net/threads/more-in...ariko-lite-mods-by-team-xecuter.551848/page-2

Sure, why not?
Ironically, this just proved me right. This new piece of information is exactly what my first post in the other thread stated.
The rumors made them act and, if real, it is now indeed confirmed to be a modchip.

I must highlight however that this interview has a number of inconsistencies. For example, it seems the interviewer only had access to an original Switch running the modchip: "(at least for the classic model which is the unit we got to inspect)".
The absence of video or pictures from TX themselves contrasts a lot with what happened for the original Switch where the first thing they did was publish a video of a Switch displaying their logo. Note that this was before the RCM based exploit and around the CCC talk.
Combining this with how it's almost certain they've been developing a modchip since day 1 (which was left in the background in favor of the dongle approach once the exploit was public), it's clear to me that the modchip solution works on the original and patched units (they've dumped the new ipatches before) but it's still not ready for Mariko and Lite. Therefore, this buys them time without compromising to resellers and customers (which they were already trying to avoid before this whole thing).

Reset glitching is pretty much proven to be used by TX for at least extracting the new master keys (instead of exploiting TSEC) and they have a long background in that area. However, the new SoC in Mariko/Lite is a tougher challenge and I believe they've been stuck there for a while, presumably because the attack is unreliable and fails too often.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

You've not mentioned this which was posted earlier in the thread. I take it you are included in the 'We' ?

When SciresM says we in the reswitched server he's talking about reswitched. There are more than just TX and Reswitched in the scene. I think this assumption or misunderstanding is what causes a lot of us vs them mentality on both sides from people who don't dig deeper than what they see on reddit or GBATemp. There are lots of free actors in the scene who have various things in common but are not associated with eachother other than occasionally sharing work to aid eachother's progress. To name a few there is TX, Reswitched, Fail0verFlow (aka team tweezers), Hexkyz, Kate Temkin (kicked out of reswitched), Team salt, st4rk, and many others who I haven't named. SciresM doesn't speak for these people and they all have different goals.

 

[iriez]

That whole 2 wrongs make a right thing, huh?

Just to clarify, you can't steal what is free....... Like if you went camping and drank from a river, would you then be stealing from the park or mother nature? If you said borrowed with out giving credit at least, sure. I'd support that.

This logic would apply for non commercial purposes. For TX who takes what is free and then repackages it to sell to people? That's shit ethics and you are a fool if you think otherwise.

If you made an invention and gave it for free to the world and then some Chinese company cloned it and sells it to uneducated people that would enrage you. You are just unable to play game theory from another's perspective so you can't escape the little box you place your mind in.

TX has made millions at this point off of open source. Is it really so much to ask them to give back to the community?

If your answer is "yes" then you are a ungrateful little shit and you've failed to recognize the lifetime of specialized labor that's required to do security work. The people that spend time doing this could be making an easy 250k a year working for corporations and instead they are giving it to us for free. Meanwhile the companies abusing that altruism and changing money for it are applauded by the likes of you.

I will never understand why people are cheerleaders for companies who engage in rent seeking, exploiting the public. Like really? You enjoy being bent over and fisted? Well if you want to waste your money and get fucked that's fine....but don't encourage others to jump off the cliff with you.

 

[_hexkyz_]

When SciresM says we in the reswitched server he's talking about reswitched. There are more than just TX and Reswitched in the scene. I think this assumption or misunderstanding is what causes a lot of us vs them mentality on both sides from people who don't dig deeper than what they see on reddit or GBATemp. There are lots of free actors in the scene who have various thigs in common but are not associated with eachother other than occasionally sharing work to aid eachother's progress. To name a few there is TX, Reswitched, Fail0verFlow (aka team tweezers), Hexkyz, Kate Temkin (kicked out of reswitched), Team salt, st4rk, and many others who I haven't named. SciresM doesn't speak for these people and they all have different goals.

Exactly. Finally, an insightful and independent observation on all this.
Social games are historically present on every "scene" and are quite often used to create this "us vs. them" mindset. I have my share of responsibility ever since I called out TX due to findings in their SX OS software. Their response to that fueled a lot of rivalry that goes above software licenses, piracy, profit or whatever. It's like I've stated before a number of times, the TX of old times would rather flop entirely than release stuff they didn't write themselves.

Each time a new SX OS update is released I decrypt and analyze it pinpointing hidden changes. However, no one to this date has independently confirmed or refuted my claims despite the tools for analysis being public. Instead, people either go blindly against or in favor of what they prefer.
I understand that not everyone has the skills, time or patience, but independent thinking and self-driven research is crucial. Words are cheap but dangerous and it feels that more and more people prefer to focus on "internet wars" than to actually think or act for themselves.

 

[Thekidpash]

Do you think we would be able to purchase the chip by the end of Jan?

And any trusted resellers for EU?