Over a dozen public officials indicted in embezzlement scheme; including entire county board (VA)

[Xzi]

how much gun violence in this county?
How many homeless?
How many single mother homes putting out countless numbers of future welfare applicants?
Is there trash and homeless all over their streets and are the sidewalks littered with fecal matter and used syringes?

I've never once defended the neoconservative/neoliberal policies that created all these problems. Might want to take a good hard look in the mirror, assuming you actually care about any of this and aren't just using it for the purpose of callous deflection away from the topic at hand.

Pointing out problems without also pointing out the cause (cough, capitalistic greed) is a worthless gesture.

 

[billapong]

I do hope you realize that anything that results in 34 indictments, 8 guilty pleas, and 5 prison sentences (and counting) is not a "witch hunt". 5 of Trump's top campaign officials/associates are now convicted felons. Additionally, the investigation was never purely about Trump. It was investigating whether or not Russia interfered in the election. Democrat, Republican, independent, Green party, or even the fucking US Communist party (which shockingly still exists to this day.) It was found that yes, Russia DID interfere in the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump, and to the detriment of Hillary Clinton. These are not "opinions" or subject to interpretation. These are known facts published by both left and right wing media, including Fox News (see https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whos-been-charged-by-mueller-in-the-russia-probe-so-far). If you read through the the report (which I highly recommend all US citizens do (It can be found at https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf), you would know this by now. Also, remember, Robert Mueller is a registered Republican, so it OBVIOUSLY was a "deep state conspiracy" perpetrated by the Clintons/Democrats/lizard people/Illuminati (/s)

On the current issue of Trump's wrongdoing with Ukraine, again, it's not up for debate. The law is very clear. Any attempt to invite a foreign government to aid in an election is a federal crime. Go ahead and try to explain away the reasoning why Trump would single out one person who just happens to be the son of his political opponent over something that wasn't an issue until he made it one. Contrary to what Trump is saying, there was never any investigation into Hunter Biden as there was no wrongdoing in the first place. All Hunter Biden did was push to have a known corrupt prosecutor fired while he was an employee of a Ukrainian company. So if helping cleanse corruption is wrong, we're all fucked.

Do your research across both right and left wing media. Look at neutral sources like The Associated Press and Reuters. Read news stories from international publications who have no political bias in US affairs, like the BBC. It's not hard to find the truth when there are so many places to look.

I'm not going to argue further.

Also, as to the actual topic of the thread, you can find a list of all 14 people charged at https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-...harged-in-ongoing-embezzlement-investigation/
I'm too lazy to do the research into the political affiliations of the 14 people charged at the moment.

Edit: @Joe88 actually linked the same article above

It was a witch hunt against Trump because Trump wasn't guilty of collusion (that was the original accusation) and it's pure speculation by the Left that any information found about Biden was going to be used in any election. Biden isn't even Trump's opponent in any elections right now and thanks to the Democrats will probably never will be (as by using Biden to attack Trump with they then exposed Biden. They meddled in their own God damned Primaries). Bringing up Biden the way they did was to simply distract from the investigation into their own corruption. Well, I'm not distracted. Shit didn't work. Didn't pass go. Won't collect a damned thing. Try again.

 

[chrisrlink]

i bet giving all physical evidence to billapong declassified he still would not believe it talking about being bias? look in the mirror bud

 

[billapong]

i bet giving all physical evidence to billapong declassified he still would not believe it talking about being bias? look in the mirror bud

No I wouldn't, because Mueller cleared him of obstruction. It was agreed to have him investigate and prosecute if he found evidence of obstruction. So what happens, the democrats simply want to change the rules they agreed to because they were wrong - they lost and can't take a loss like grown ups do. Fucking sore ass losers (emphasis on losers)

It's like losing a NFL Football game and then trying to change the rules after the game is won so that your team, that lost, will win. Or it's like losing a Presidential election and then bitching about the electoral college.

Listen you fucking intellectually disabled Liberals. There was no collusion and you fucking lost the election. Let go and move on.

 

[Deleted User]

No I wouldn't, because Mueller cleared him of obstruction. It was agreed to have him investigate and prosecute if he found evidence of obstruction. So what happens, the democrats simply want to change the rules they agreed to because they were wrong - they lost and can't take a loss like grown ups do. Fucking sore ass losers (emphasis on losers)

It's like losing a NFL Football game and then trying to change the rules after the game is won so that your team, that lost, will win. Or it's like losing a Presidential election and then bitching about the electoral college.

Listen you fucking retarded Liberals. There was no collusion and you fucking lost the election. Let go and move on.

Have you read the actual Muller Report? Or any piece of it? And I mean yourself, without listening/watching a video.

 

[osaka35]

No I wouldn't, because Mueller cleared him of obstruction. It was agreed to have him investigate and prosecute if he found evidence of obstruction. So what happens, the democrats simply want to change the rules they agreed to because they were wrong - they lost and can't take a loss like grown ups do. Fucking sore ass losers (emphasis on losers)

It's like losing a NFL Football game and then trying to change the rules after the game is won so that your team, that lost, will win. Or it's like losing a Presidential election and then bitching about the electoral college.

Listen you fucking retarded Liberals. There was no collusion and you fucking lost the election. Let go and move on.

He...did find obstruction tho? where are you getting your information?

Don't use "retarded" as an insult. please edit your post to remove this word, this sort of thing isn't tolerated. But the rest of your text doesn't break any forum rules.

 

[Deleted User]

He...did find obstruction tho? where are you getting your information?

Don't use "retarded" as an insult. please edit your post to remove this word, this sort of thing isn't tolerated. But the rest of your text doesn't break any forum rules.

That was a mistake, he's a big proponent of the idea that free speech means no consequences. And he's likely going to label you as a libtard, or something along those lines and insult you for PC culture.

 

[osaka35]

That was a mistake, he's a big proponent of the idea that free speech means no consequences. And he's likely going to label you as a libtard, or something along those lines and insult you for PC culture.

Usually that term just means "I don't know what I'm talking about", so it doesn't mean much to me. Free speech as an ideal just means your speech won't be censured from being heard, particularly from a government. It doesn't guarantee a platform will be provided or it be of equal weight to all others. I mean, it's antithetical to free speech to not have your speech critiqued or assessed. I mean, that's the whole point. Ideas not spoken are ideas left to fester and go unaddressed. To yell at people who complain about what you're saying is super anti-free speech. It always boggles my mind people who say they support freedom of speech, when all they mean is freedom of their speech but no one else's. I'm hoping billapong is above this sort of thing.

In such a busy news week on the federal level, this is a story which otherwise would've flown under my radar entirely, so shout-out to the temper who referred it to me via PM.

Does this sort of thing not happen a lot? I suppose the odd thing is it was uncovered and prosecuted rather than just uncovered and nothing done about it.

 

[IncredulousP]

He...did find obstruction tho? where are you getting your information?

It turns out that the real obstruction was the friends that Trump made along the way.

 

[SG854]

I don't care about the OP. People do bad things whatever.


Here's some news to get people riled up.

Bernie Sanders hospitalized for blocked artery. He has heart problems.
He canceled future events. It looks the end of Sanders Presidency. He too old.

Xzi + morovan -> 1 gamma ray + 538 MeV of energy

They make the perfect couple. You know the saying opposites attract.

 

[osaka35]

Bernie Sanders hospitalized for blocked artery. He has heart problems.
He canceled future events. It looks the end of Sanders Presidency. He too old.

Is that how some places are choosing to report this? Up till now, he's been functional with a blocked artery. Felt a little pain, so he had a checkup. Saw the blockage, had a pretty standard/not dangerous surgery, and now he's back out there without a blocked artery. He's healthier now than he was before, as the issue was resolved and they can safely keep an eye on it. If he had suffered a heart attack, that would have potentially weakened his heart, but since they found the problem and fixed it before that happened, he's in a better position than he was before.

he's old, but he's healthy. especially for someone his and trump's age (he's 5 years older than trump). To be honest, this won't negatively impact his campaign.

 

[SG854]

Is that how some places are choosing to report this? Up till now, he's been functional with a blocked artery. Felt a little pain, so he had a checkup. Saw the blockage, had a pretty standard/not dangerous surgery, and now he's back out there without a blocked artery. He's healthier now than he was before, as the issue was resolved and they can safely keep an eye on it. he's old, but he's healthy. especially for someone his and trump's age (he's 5 years older than trump). To be honest, this won't negatively impact his campaign.

You know the News, that's how they always spin things.
I wouldn't say resolved if he went to the hospital again.

 

[KingVamp]

So we are just allowed to intentionally go off-topic now? lol

 

[osaka35]

So we are just allowed to intentionally go off-topic now? lol

Corruption of politicians, local and federal, will probably all funnel towards the US elections for the next 6 months for...obvious reasons. Not sure how to avoid it Especially since this is a pretty clear case of them doing something wrong and getting caught. I'm personally confused as to why they're being ousted. Folks nowadays seem to prefer facade of stability rather than risking rocking the boat by doing the right thing.

 

[KingVamp]

Corruption of politicians, local and federal, will probably all funnel towards the US elections for the next 6 months for...obvious reasons. Not sure how to avoid it Especially since this is a pretty clear case of them doing something wrong and getting caught. I'm personally confused as to why they're being ousted. Folks nowadays seem to prefer facade of stability rather than risking rocking the boat by doing the right thing.

Well... I was talking about that random Bernie Sanders news. It has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

Is that how some places are choosing to report this? Up till now, he's been functional with a blocked artery. Felt a little pain, so he had a checkup. Saw the blockage, had a pretty standard/not dangerous surgery, and now he's back out there without a blocked artery. He's healthier now than he was before, as the issue was resolved and they can safely keep an eye on it. If he had suffered a heart attack, that would have potentially weakened his heart, but since they found the problem and fixed it before that happened, he's in a better position than he was before.

he's old, but he's healthy. especially for someone his and trump's age (he's 5 years older than trump). To be honest, this won't negatively impact his campaign.

He will be fine. Cannot wait until the pundits spin it into oblivion though.

As for the topic in general its actually really interesting news regardless of who was caught. A crackdown on corruption like this is always great news. The whole "OH BUT WHAT ABOUT BIDEN?!!! ERRRR????!!! seems odd to me as it is unrelated to the topic at hand.

Also @osaka35. You dont post in the politics section that often but you certainly are good at dispelling nonsense. Thanks for that.

 

[SG854]

So we are just allowed to intentionally go off-topic now? lol

Yes, always Baybay

Corruption of politicians, local and federal, will probably all funnel towards the US elections for the next 6 months for...obvious reasons. Not sure how to avoid it Especially since this is a pretty clear case of them doing something wrong and getting caught. I'm personally confused as to why they're being ousted. Folks nowadays seem to prefer facade of stability rather than risking rocking the boat by doing the right thing.

No one wants to rock the boat. Most people in this thread doesn't or anyone else outside of here. All they do is talk maybe vote but that's about it. They rather play video game's, watch TV shows, party with their friends, hobbies, maybe a little work and schooling here and there, but that's about it. They won't protest, revolt or anything. They'll probably make excuses for why they don't revolt. Too corrupt.

No politicians wants to rock the boat either, and no one wants to take up the politician role to rock anything. Our votes don't count because of corruption, so the only way is to force by protest. But where are they? And the ones that do same excuse for why nothing gets done, too corrupt. So no one rocks the boat, no one wants to take up the politician mantel to shake and rock things, and excuses are always too corrupt for the people that do. So are people going to do anything about this? Or will they just do the same routine go to work/school, play game's, watch shows and same old same old. And say our lives are too busy to do anything, I have a life, I can't go to protest to make our country better. There's a lot of people I see on the news already doing it for me. But its apparently not enough, things are still corrupt and broken.

 

[Xzi]

No one wants to rock the boat. Most people in this thread doesn't or anyone else outside of here. All they do is talk maybe vote but that's about it. They rather play video game's, watch TV shows, party with their friends, hobbies, maybe a little work and schooling here and there, but that's about it. They won't protest, revolt or anything. They'll probably make excuses for why they don't revolt.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've been to a number of protests myself. As for a revolt or a revolution...that's not something one can really accomplish without large-scale support. Revolting solo just gets you shot dead and labeled an "antifa terrorist." The entire working class revolting would be impossible to ignore or mischaracterize, however.

I'm still holding out some hope that Bernie's political revolution pulls through, because otherwise you'll likely be proven correct in that people are just too apathetic to enact meaningful change away from the declining state of this country through other means.

 

[morvoran]

Really, very little aside from using it as an excuse to go all Wake Up Sheeple on people.

Is there any other reason perfect enough as this to interject?

I've never once defended the neoconservative/neoliberal policies that created all these problems. Might want to take a good hard look in the mirror, assuming you actually care about any of this and aren't just using it for the purpose of callous deflection away from the topic at hand.

Pointing out problems without also pointing out the cause (cough, capitalistic greed) is a worthless gesture.

Hey, you must have let your cat play on the keyboard again while you were away from your computer. It's replying to me again with nonsense. By the way, who PM'd you this story to post? Was it Adam Schiff?

Don't use "retarded" as an insult. please edit your post to remove this word, this sort of thing isn't tolerated. But the rest of your text doesn't break any forum rules.

For real @billapong , you're insulting the mentally challenged when you compare their mental superiority to that of liberals. Don't they suffer enough?

 

[WD_GASTER2]

what does any of that have to do with a discussion on an embezzlement scheme leading to arrests?
nice trolling attempt but its boring at this point.
in before something something, hateful liberals, something something racist liberals, something something degenerate liberals, something something mentally challenged liberals, something something what about joe biden, something something republicanism is perfect and beyond reproach, something something, life is perfect under conservativism. oh yeah something something socialism, vuvuzuela.