Homebrew Discussion Open Source emunand very soon!

[lordelan]

Or for ipatched systems:

Emunand 1 -> Up To Date for Online shit and shit that won’t get you banned
Emunand 2 -> Up To Date for shit that will get you banned
Sysnand -> On lowest possible version

Makes sense.
But then again: Are there even ipatched units with a low enough firmware to use the warmboot exploit?

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Makes sense.
But then again: Are there even ipatched units with a low enough firmware to use the warmboot exploit?

The warmboot exploit is usable upto 7.0.1 (4.1 will be the simplest, and it gets more complex the higher you go)

 

[lordelan]

The warmboot exploit is usable upto 7.0.1 (4.1 will be the simplest, and it gets more complex the higher you go)

Didn't know that.

 

[ScarletDreamz]

Or for ipatched systems:

Emunand 1 -> Up To Date for Online shit and shit that won’t get you banned
Emunand 2 -> Up To Date for shit that will get you banned
Sysnand -> On lowest possible version

This would be a cool idea, however, wasting 60gb on a memory card, its kinda sad.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

This would be a cool idea, however, wasting 60gb on a memory card, its kinda sad.

Shrink the user partition on one or both of them

Imagine having two full sized emunands on devkits

 

[phillyrider807]

This might be a dumb question. But would emunand technically allow a banned switch to go online as long as u use it legit?

I have 2 switches. One that is hacked but banned and a legit patched switch thats already updated to 8.0 so no chance of hacking it in the future.

I keep my legit switch at my moms and my hacked switch i take with me. I would love to be able to use my hacked switch online and play splatoon. I have a legit cart. I have no plans on cheating or doing anything else on emunand other then playing splatoon online legit.

Is this even possible? Or is it that once a switch is banned thats it?

 

[ZachyCatGames]

This might be a dumb question. But would emunand technically allow a banned switch to go online as long as u use it legit?

I have 2 switches. One that is hacked but banned and a legit patched switch thats already updated to 8.0 so no chance of hacking it in the future.

I keep my legit switch at my moms and my hacked switch i take with me. I would love to be able to use my hacked switch online and play splatoon. I have a legit cart. I have no plans on cheating or doing anything else on emunand other then playing splatoon online legit.

Is this even possible? Or is it that once a switch is banned thats it?

No, you’d have to get Ninty to unban your system

 

[Mouser X]

This might be a dumb question. But would emunand technically allow a banned switch to go online as long as u use it legit?

I have 2 switches. One that is hacked but banned and a legit patched switch thats already updated to 8.0 so no chance of hacking it in the future.

I keep my legit switch at my moms and my hacked switch i take with me. I would love to be able to use my hacked switch online and play splatoon. I have a legit cart. I have no plans on cheating or doing anything else on emunand other then playing splatoon online legit.

Is this even possible? Or is it that once a switch is banned thats it?

No, you’d have to get Ninty to unban your system

While I understand where you're coming from, it seems plausible (though, most likely a bad idea, as it seems likely there would be incongruent data) that if you had all prodinfo/keys/etc. from the "unhacked" Switch on your emuNAND (aka, essentially you ran the NAND of the unhacked Switch on the hacked Switch), that, to Nintendo, it'd look like the unhacked/unbanned Switch was the one trying to authenticate.

Of course, you *do* run into another problem where, during authentication, information is fed into the Switch hardware (decryption, keys, whatever else), and since you're running the wrong NAND (via emuNAND), it'd get bad results. Even if you successfully connected to Nintendo's server, and successfully joined a game, and played a match, your unhacked Switch would most likely be flagged for the next ban wave (because of mismatched keys, or something similar).

So, I suppose that if you spoofed enough data, maybe it'd work, but more likely you'd just be setting up your "clean" Switch for a ban.

Of course, what do I know. There's many very smart people already working on unbanning Switches. Since I haven't seen anyone mention anything (regarding using emuNAND to bypass a ban), it's almost certainly not that simple, and not possible at this time.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

While I understand where you're coming from, it seems plausible (though, most likely a bad idea, as it seems likely there would be incongruent data) that if you had all prodinfo/keys/etc. from the "unhacked" Switch on your emuNAND (aka, essentially you ran the NAND of the unhacked Switch on the hacked Switch), that, to Nintendo, it'd look like the unhacked/unbanned Switch was the one trying to authenticate.

Of course, you *do* run into another problem where, during authentication, information is fed into the Switch hardware (decryption, keys, whatever else), and since you're running the wrong NAND (via emuNAND), it'd get bad results. Even if you successfully connected to Nintendo's server, and successfully joined a game, and played a match, your unhacked Switch would most likely be flagged for the next ban wave (because of mismatched keys, or something similar).

So, I suppose that if you spoofed enough data, maybe it'd work, but more likely you'd just be setting up your "clean" Switch for a ban.

Of course, what do I know. There's many very smart people already working on unbanning Switches. Since I haven't seen anyone mention anything (regarding using emuNAND to bypass a ban), it's almost certainly not that simple, and not possible at this time.

You can't use someone else's cal0 on emunand for the same reason you can't on sysnand. It just straight up wouldn't boot (it'd get stuck at the Switch logo iirc)

 

[Budsixz]

You can't use someone else's cal0 on emunand for the same reason you can't on sysnand. It just straight up wouldn't boot (it'd get stuck at the Switch logo iirc)

lets say someone does that and gets stuck
after he formats the card will things go back to normal?

 

[Flopglop]

If you had a bigger emmc on your switch, would you be able to run the emunand from there?

 

[hippy dave]

If you had a bigger emmc on your switch, would you be able to run the emunand from there?

That's easier to support technically than emunand on sd card, but it's not what the devs are targeting atm. Once the code is finished and released it wouldn't surprise me if someone adapts it to do what you want.

 

[Deleted User]

Best setup is

emunand on 8.01 (Or newest)
sysnand 8.01 (Or newest)

Why not since everything works on 8.01

Been doing tx sx os setups like this for customers with 0 bans

 

[Mouser X]

Best setup is

emunand on 8.01 (Or newest)
sysnand 8.01 (Or newest)

Why not since everything works on 8.01

Been doing tx sx os setups like this for customers with 0 bans

You apparently missed the point where everything doesn't work on 8.0.1. Units that are ipatched (which hit retail about a year ago) can't be hacked beyond 7.0.1 (at the latest. Preferably earlier [4.1.0] is where you'd want to be). Therefore, the best setup is actually emuNAND of <current highest firmware that homebrew runs on (right now that's 8.0.1)>, and sysNAND at 4.1.0. This is kind of why emuNAND is a big deal....

 

[hiroakihsu]

The warmboot exploit is usable upto 7.0.1 (4.1 will be the simplest, and it gets more complex the higher you go)

Does that apply to non-patched original units as well?

 

[Deleted User]

You apparently missed the point where everything doesn't work on 8.0.1. Units that are ipatched (which hit retail about a year ago) can't be hacked beyond 7.0.1 (at the latest. Preferably earlier [4.1.0] is where you'd want to be). Therefore, the best setup is actually emuNAND of <current highest firmware that homebrew runs on (right now that's 8.0.1)>, and sysNAND at 4.1.0. This is kind of why emuNAND is a big deal....

You missed the point as this is for currently hackable switches - There is nothing for ipatched units and when there is its already confirmed hard mod will work past 8.01

 

[leon315]

TODAY's 30th of may, will emunand be available on 15th July? O.O

 

[Mouser X]

You missed the point as this is for currently hackable switches - There is nothing for ipatched units and when there is its already confirmed hard mod will work past 8.01

Actually, as this isn't even released, it's not for any Switch, right now. But they're working on it for ipatched units, which is where it will be the most useful. Obviously the fusee-gelee exploit will work for any firmware. And yes, when emuNAND is released, it will work for fusee-gelee as well. But ipatched units is where emuNAND is the most useful.

 

[Deleted User]

Actually, as this isn't even released, it's not for any Switch, right now. But they're working on it for ipatched units, which is where it will be the most useful. Obviously the fusee-gelee exploit will work for any firmware. And yes, when emuNAND is released, it will work for fusee-gelee as well. But ipatched units is where emuNAND is the most useful.

Emunand is useful on all switches and not specific to patched or unpatched

Its about not getting banned

 

[ZachyCatGames]

lets say someone does that and gets stuck
after he formats the card will things go back to normal?

If you use someone else’s cal0 on emunand? Yea

Does that apply to non-patched original units as well?

It applies to all systems, unpatched and patched (Unless N patches Dormez in another revision, in that case it’ll only work on 5.1.0 and below)

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Emunand is useful on all switches and not specific to patched or unpatched

Its about not getting banned

their main reasoning for making emunand isn’t to prevent bans