Homebrew Question Which NSP installer supports USBHDD:/ except SX Installer?

[tinkle]

Are you telling me, for example, that I haven't responded to ten or twenty different posts specifically about the convenience of XCI loading? I don't claim to speak for everyone. When using the royal you (e.g. Those aren't the arguments you see over and over again.), it roughly translates to Those aren't the arguments one generally sees over and over again. As I might have said to you earlier, I'm not interested in arguing semantics.

If you want to talk about how I'm wrong, great, but let's not claim I'm trying to speak for everybody. I'm not.

XCI Loading being convenient is one benefit. One of many. I've provided you some additional benefits, particularly ones that set it apart from 3DS files, but you still make the same tired comparison to the 3DS scene. I wonder why that is?

 

[Lacius]

XCI Loading being convenient is one benefit. One of many. I've provided you some additional benefits, particularly ones that set it apart from 3DS files, but you still make the same tired comparison to the 3DS scene. I wonder why that is?

The point wasn't the objective benefits of using XCI files. Go back and look.

 

[tinkle]

The point wasn't the objective benefits of using XCI files. Go back and look.

You can't seem to see past "3DS gave way to CIA in the 3DS scene" comparison.

 

[Lacius]

You can't seem to see past "3DS gave way to CIA in the 3DS scene" comparison.

Since you won't go back and look, the point was one's subjective value placed on XCI files, and people seem to generally reference the drag and drop capabilities of XCI files above anything else. In fact, not much else is generally mentioned, by my experience. When we take everything together, the benefits of XCI files don't appear worth the price tag for a lot of people, which is very much analogous to (yes) the 3DS scene. This isn't controversial. A lot of people want to play backups while spending the least amount of money.

 

[gnilwob]

I had bad experience using Luma3DS.
When I installed a game and it took 30-50 minutes. WTF.

For Switch, installing NSP is faster than CIA on 3DS but it is still slow in my opinion.
So my personal choice is using XCI.

When SX does not support firmware version x.x.x anymore.
Only then I will consider to switch over to other CFW.
As of now, I am using Sysnand 7.0.1 + EmuNand 6.2.0 so far so good.

And I hope that in the future we can play NSP directly without spending time to install it.
In that case, it would allow me to change to any CFW.

 

[Lacius]

I had bad experience using Luma3DS.
When I installed a game and it took 30-50 minutes. WTF.

For Switch, installing NSP is faster than CIA on 3DS but it is still slow in my opinion.
So my personal choice is using XCI.

When SX does not support firmware version x.x.x anymore.
Only then I will consider to switch over to other CFW.
As of now, I am using Sysnand 7.0.1 + EmuNand 6.2.0 so far so good.

And I hope that in the future we can play NSP directly without spending time to install it.
In that case, it would allow me to change to any CFW.

It takes as much (if not more) time to put an XCI file onto an SD card or USB HDD as it does to install an NSP file over a USB connection.

 

[gnilwob]

It takes as much (if not more) time to put an XCI file onto an SD card or USB HDD as it does to install an NSP file over a USB connection.

No, I got around 70MB/s speed to transfer files to micro sd which consider very fast.
For XCI, I just copy(speed=70) and it is done.
For NSP, I have to copy(speed=70) and I have to do the installation and it is consider slow(speed= 10-20??)

 

[Lacius]

No, I got around 70MB/s speed to transfer files to micro sd which consider very fast.
For XCI, I just copy(speed=70) and it is done.
For NSP, I have to copy(speed=70) and I have to do the installation and it is consider slow(speed= 10-20??)

To be clear, are you saying you're putting the NSP file onto your SD card and then installing it?

 

[ReikaRin]

max speed nsp install from usb pc are around 40mb/s and loading faster on some games

 

[gnilwob]

To be clear, are you saying you're putting the NSP file onto your SD card and then installing it?

Yes, my knowledge on how to use NSP is outdated.
As I usually use XCI for the whole collection.

 

[Lacius]

Yes, my knowledge on how to use NSP is outdated.
As I usually use XCI for the whole collection.

You can connect your Switch to your computer and install the NSP directly, without having to put the NSP anywhere other than your computer. It makes the process of installing an NSP file fewer steps than putting XCI files onto your SD card.

 

[tinkle]

fewer steps than putting XCI files onto your SD card.

Yes because installing software on your computer is so much more convenient than just drag and drop XCI files o_o

 

[Lacius]

Yes because installing software on your computer is so much more convenient than just drag and drop XCI files o_o

Sure. After the initial investment that is the arduous task of installing software onto your computer, the process of installing NSP files then becomes simpler than having to deal with XCI files.

 

[gnilwob]

You can connect your Switch to your computer and install the NSP directly, without having to put the NSP anywhere other than your computer. It makes the process of installing an NSP file fewer steps than putting XCI files onto your SD card.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I don't think NSP is bad.
And I got a bad start.
In the early stage of Switch hacking, the speed to transfer file via USB cable was too slow. (testing it on memloader payload and only got 10-15MB/s)

Steps are not important, time is important.
Imaging that you have to install multiple files assuming that they are altogether 40GB.

At the speed of 40MB/s, it is 1024 seconds which is around 17 minutes.
At the speed of 70MB/s, it is 586 seconds, which is less than 10 minutes.

Bonus point* If you are using ext hdd, the speed is 100MB/s and just plug and play so faster and less steps

 

[Lacius]

Hey, don't get me wrong. I don't think NSP is bad.
And I got a bad start.
In the early stage of Switch hacking, the speed to transfer file via USB cable was too slow. (testing it on memloader payload and only got 10-15MB/s)

Steps are not important, time is important.
Imaging that you have to install multiple files assuming that they are altogether 40GB.

At the speed of 40MB/s, it is 1024 seconds which is around 17 minutes.
At the speed of 70MB/s, it is 586 seconds, which is less than 10 minutes.

Bonus point* If you are using ext hdd, the speed is 100MB/s and just plug and play so faster and less steps

The number of steps is also important, since we're talking about simplicity as well as time.

 

[gnilwob]

The number of steps is also important, since we're talking about simplicity as well as time.

OK, you can use whatever method that suit with your needs the most.
I will also use whatever method I think it is best suit with my needs.
At the end, we can all enjoys games.

 

[Lacius]

OK, you can use whatever method that suit with your needs the most.
I will also use whatever method I think it is best suit with my needs.
At the end, we can all enjoys games.

I agree. However, when it comes to whether or not the average user is willing to pay a financial price for SX OS, the answer is often no. In addition, SX OS does not support 7.0.x, which will be required for new games.

 

[youcantseeme421]

Dwelling in the past with that Gateway approach. Thousands upon thousands of users apparently think differently. And again, the latest firmware isn't that important.

 

[Lacius]

Dwelling in the past with that Gateway approach. Thousands upon thousands of users apparently think differently. And again, the latest firmware isn't that important.

The majority of SX OS users bought it before the rise of free CFW with the ability to load backups. Also, the latest software version is very important if you plan on playing new games in the future.

 

[youcantseeme421]

Terabytes of content. They'll switch to atmosphere for a new AAA game and go right back. That's assuming TX doesn't put out an update, which the guys will.

Atmo watermark or not, the users who switched to atmosphere will go back lol