Opinions re: ANTIFA?

[PanTheFaun]

Okay, I was just kinda wondering because this post:


Seemed to imply you thought it was only the left/Antifa which is capable of extremism. I also don't agree with the idea that the left "hates white people," they've made a white person president all but one time, and we still have a lot of white people left in the various branches too. The right isn't threatened only by racial equality in politics/law though, they're also threatened by gender equality. You can't always take everybody's feelings into account, but I think the victim mentality is driven largely by various online/cable right-wing media outlets.


You could shift around a couple words and it would make just as much, if not more sense:

Not that this is necessarily true. However, left-leaning viewpoints are a vast majority in this country. They just don't often come out to vote in big enough numbers, especially in mid-terms. At least it looks like they have a good shot at taking a majority in Congress, maybe some state governor's races.

Alrighty. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Song of storms]

Okay, I was just kinda wondering because this post:


Seemed to imply you thought it was only the left/Antifa which is capable of extremism. I also don't agree with the idea that the left "hates white people," they've made a white person president all but one time, and we still have a lot of white people left in the various branches too. The right isn't threatened only by racial equality in politics/law though, they're also threatened by gender equality. You can't always take everybody's feelings into account, but I think the victim mentality is driven largely by various online/cable right-wing media outlets.


You could shift around a couple words and it would make just as much, if not more sense:

Not that this is necessarily true. However, left-leaning viewpoints are a vast majority in this country. They just don't often come out to vote in big enough numbers, especially in mid-terms. At least it looks like they have a good shot at taking a majority in Congress, maybe some state governor's races. I suppose in the end it depends on how, to steal a phrase, rigged the election turns out to be.

The difference is that any person will look at the nutcases and treat them as such, while the left will go on with whataboutism, effectively putting people on a double standard.

 

[Xzi]

The difference is that any person will look at the nutcases and treat them as such, while the left will go on with whataboutism, effectively putting people on a double standard.

You'd have to give an example. I often see a lot of whining about a victim complex from the extreme right. That feeling of "oppression" seems to stem mostly from their inability to express racism/sexism in public, so it's hard to feel sympathy for them, that being the case.

 

[PanTheFaun]

You'd have to give an example. I often see a lot of whining about a victim complex from the extreme right. That feeling of "oppression" seems to stem mostly from their inability to express racism/sexism in public, so it's hard to feel sympathy for them, that being the case.

You make a lot of assumptions. Whites are openly talked down upon in the media and such. It happens with no other race. Its racist and white people on the right are justified in their anger.

 

[Xzi]

Whites are openly talked down upon in the media and such. It happens with no other race. Its racist and white people on the right are justified in their anger.

All whites =/= extreme right. And again, give an example, I've got no idea what you're talking about. Everybody gets "talked down upon" in various forms of media, that's pretty much what the entire tabloid business is about and most of social media.

 

[Song of storms]

You'd have to give an example. I often see a lot of whining about a victim complex from the extreme right. That feeling of "oppression" seems to stem mostly from their inability to express racism/sexism in public, so it's hard to feel sympathy for them, that being the case.

- Mere hours after a terrorist attack in France, people feel the need to tweet #fuckparis for daring to stir attention away from the Black Lives Matter movement
http://www.citypages.com/news/the-fuckparis-hashtag-sends-the-internet-into-a-fury-7836574
- Feminists force scientist that has just landed a comet to apologize in tears for a shirt a female friend of his made
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt
- Google sued for discriminating white and asian men
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/2/1...cruiter-hiring-reverse-discrimination-lawsuit
- Woman getting pepper-sprayed during protest while being interviewed
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/...prayed-at-u-c-berkeley-riot-but-not-by-police
- Vice "journalist" making an article claiming that you can't be racist towards white people
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/kwz...please-stop-pretending-reverse-racism-is-real
- South african politican Julius Malema says that he didn't call for a white genocide "for now" and that he "can't guarantee what happens in the future"
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/20...-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/
- Minority waitress gets "we don't tip terrorists" written on bill. Turns out she made it up for attention
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-...ip-terrorist-note-on-receipt-restaurant-says/
- Antifa attacks police and journalists during riot
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...s-protests-charlottesville-dc-unite-the-right
- Andrew King admits of drawing swastikas by himself after claiming racist attack by the right
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/New-York-man-admits-to-painting-swastikas-on-his-own-home-504391
- White people "invited" to pay drinks for black people in a campaign for "reparation"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...drinks-free-bar-oregon-portland-a8371786.html
- Black Lives Matter demands things from white people (mostly money)
https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
- Man attacked in subway for "being white"
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/man-attacked-on-bus-for-being-white-
- Woman shouts "I hate white people" before starting an attack on the bus
https://wjla.com/news/crime/black-woman-ride-on-bus-attack-white-people


Various trash articles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/...ticing-something-new-their-own-whiteness.html
https://www.theroot.com/white-people-are-cowards-1826958780
https://medium.com/@beyondtherobot/hey-white-people-heres-what-we-owe-people-of-color-77ca16f1797b
https://arrow-journal.org/why-people-of-color-need-spaces-without-white-people/




Now, try to play the reverse game with these articles and imagine what would have happened have the roles been switched. I can assure you that many of these "journalists" wouldn't have a job anymore and there would be worldwide rage. I have a lot of articles against feminism too, but I don't want to be called an incel by a staffer again and have her boyfriend white knighting me for posting facts.

People are tired of double standards and to be misrepresented by clearly racist people that claim that whites can't be the target of racism. Of course the right is winning: you fucked up. You can't swift these things under the rug in the name of "not everyone is like this" while bashing white people as a whole whenever there is a single episode of racism in the entire country. This is why the left is losing support.

Do you want to fight for inequality? Stop pretending that the other side isn't being viciously attacked.


EDIT: let's not forget that calling a black person a "n****" is (rightfully) wrong, but calling a white person a "cracker" isn't. And it's apparently OK to assault people for calling someone a n****.
https://blackamericaweb.com/2018/08...the-n-word-and-ends-up-in-the-hospital-video/
https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/11/n-word-not-same-as-cracker/

 

[PanTheFaun]

All whites =/= extreme right. And again, give an example, I've got no idea what you're talking about. Everybody gets "talked down upon" in various forms of media, that's pretty much what the entire tabloid business is about and most of social media.

Do you see the entirety of the blacks, Asians, Arabs, Jews, etc. told that they should have guilt? That their DNA is an abomination? That if they love their race or try to defend it that they are a supremacist? Nope. Only white people.

 

[SG854]

Do you see the entirety of the blacks, Asians, Arabs, Jews, etc. told that they should have guilt? That their DNA is an abomination? That if they love their race or try to defend it that they are a supremacist? Nope. Only white people.

This whole thing about trying to see which side is more violent to prove not to vote for the other side is ridiculous. This is why I don’t choose any political sides. I don’t call myself a Democrat or a Republican. I focus more on policies and debating those policies. That way I avoid party association and assumptions.

Like for example I support Trumps tax cuts since it brings more tax revenue. But I don’t support his tarrifs. I’m sometimes for Trump and against him.

It’s obvious mainstream media, Hollywood and Universities are more left leaning. Having this power and support is hugely influential. The fact that you don’t get to hear equal representation of Republican values, and have to look for their opinions on your own. From hearing many Republican values they seem very sensible and based on facts. And many are not racist at all.

- Mere hours after a terrorist attack in France, people feel the need to tweet #fuckparis for daring to stir attention away from the Black Lives Matter movement
http://www.citypages.com/news/the-fuckparis-hashtag-sends-the-internet-into-a-fury-7836574
- Feminists force scientist that has just landed a comet to apologize in tears for a shirt a female friend of his made
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt
- Google sued for discriminating white and asian men
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/2/1...cruiter-hiring-reverse-discrimination-lawsuit
- Woman getting pepper-sprayed during protest while being interviewed
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/...prayed-at-u-c-berkeley-riot-but-not-by-police
- Vice "journalist" making an article claiming that you can't be racist towards white people
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/kwz...please-stop-pretending-reverse-racism-is-real
- South african politican Julius Malema says that he didn't call for a white genocide "for now" and that he "can't guarantee what happens in the future"
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/20...-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/
- Minority waitress gets "we don't tip terrorists" written on bill. Turns out she made it up for attention
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-...ip-terrorist-note-on-receipt-restaurant-says/
- Antifa attacks police and journalists during riot
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...s-protests-charlottesville-dc-unite-the-right
- Andrew King admits of drawing swastikas by himself after claiming racist attack by the right
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/New-York-man-admits-to-painting-swastikas-on-his-own-home-504391
- White people "invited" to pay drinks for black people in a campaign for "reparation"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...drinks-free-bar-oregon-portland-a8371786.html
- Black Lives Matter demands things from white people (mostly money)
https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
- Man attacked in subway for "being white"
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/man-attacked-on-bus-for-being-white-
- Woman shouts "I hate white people" before starting an attack on the bus
https://wjla.com/news/crime/black-woman-ride-on-bus-attack-white-people


Various trash articles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/...ticing-something-new-their-own-whiteness.html
https://www.theroot.com/white-people-are-cowards-1826958780
https://medium.com/@beyondtherobot/hey-white-people-heres-what-we-owe-people-of-color-77ca16f1797b
https://arrow-journal.org/why-people-of-color-need-spaces-without-white-people/




Now, try to play the reverse game with these articles and imagine what would have happened have the roles been switched. I can assure you that many of these "journalists" wouldn't have a job anymore and there would be worldwide rage. I have a lot of articles against feminism too, but I don't want to be called an incel by a staffer again and have her boyfriend white knighting me for posting facts.

People are tired of double standards and to be misrepresented by clearly racist people that claim that whites can't be the target of racism. Of course the right is winning: you fucked up. You can't swift these things under the rug in the name of "not everyone is like this" while bashing white people as a whole whenever there is a single episode of racism in the entire country. This is why the left is losing support.

Do you want to fight for inequality? Stop pretending that the other side isn't being viciously attacked.


EDIT: let's not forget that calling a black person a "n****" is (rightfully) wrong, but calling a white person a "cracker" isn't. And it's apparently OK to assault people for calling someone a n****.
https://blackamericaweb.com/2018/08...the-n-word-and-ends-up-in-the-hospital-video/
https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/11/n-word-not-same-as-cracker/

Everyday feminism is a funny site. I sometimes go there to see what wacky thing they have going on there. I remember they were offering a paid training class service where they heal you from “Toxic Whitness.” And yes they called it that.

I sometimes go to feminists sites because they make me laugh.

 

[PanTheFaun]

This whole thing about trying to see which side is more violent to prove not to vote for the other side is ridiculous. This is why I don’t choose any political sides. I don’t call myself a Democrat or a Republican. I focus more on policies and debating those policies. That way I avoid party association and assumptions.

Like for example I support Trumps tax cuts since it brings more tax revenue. But I don’t support his tarrifs. I’m sometimes for Trump and against him.

It’s obvious mainstream media, Hollywood and Universities are more left leaning. Having this power and support is hugely influential. The fact that you don’t get to hear equal representation of Republican values, and have to look for their opinions on your own. From hearing many Republican values they seem very sensible and based on facts. And many are not racist at all.


Everyday feminism is a funny site. I sometimes go there to see what wacky thing they have going on there. I remember they were offering a paid training class service where they heal you from “Toxic Whitness.” And yes they called it that.

I sometimes go to feminists sites because they make me laugh.

Well I'm not Republican so that really doesn't matter. I was talking about race related issues.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

except that the USA went to war with Nazi's before. And a lot of wonderful American people fought them and gave up their lives in WW2.

to compare one to the other 2 is a little Jarring.

 

[PanTheFaun]

except that the USA went to war with Nazi's before. And a lot of wonderful American people fought them and gave up their lives in WW2.

to compare one to the other 2 is a little Jarring.

Except the fact that these people aren't the nazi's.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

no but they worship and live by the ideology begging for the day where they can return to having power. quite terrifying if you ask me.

and with all due respect, i would not go to bat for them under any circumstances, not sure you would be batting for them.

also if they call themselves Nazi's why should i think any different?

 

[PanTheFaun]

no but they worship and live by the ideology begging for the day where they can return to having power. quite terrifying if you ask me.

and with all due respect, i would not go to bat for them under any circumstances, not sure you would be batting for them.

I don't agree with them at all but I also don't agree to shoot them for their ideology.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

im not talking about shooting.
but comparing one group to the other 2 is jarring. go read my first post again.

 

[PanTheFaun]

im not talking about shooting.
but comparing one group to the other 2 is jarring. go read my first post again.

I can compare anything together just like anybody else can. Antifa loves communism and communism took more lives than Nazi's ever did.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

I am not saying you cant compare. I am just saying it is Jarring.

 

[PanTheFaun]

I am not saying you cant compare. I am just saying it is Jarring.

That's your opinion. c:

 

[WD_GASTER2]

thats correct hence why is i said "I am saying"
I do not understand why the defensive posture?

 

[PanTheFaun]

thats correct hence why is i said "I am saying"
I do not understand why the defensive posture?

Because I'm allowed to defend my opinions? I'm not understanding why you think it's jarring to compare neo-nazi's that support nazism to antifa that supports communism?

 

[SG854]

Well I'm not Republican so that really doesn't matter. I was talking about race related issues.

I was mostly talking about the topic of this thread. They usually make a distinction far left and far right when associating different groups like Nazis, Blm and Antifa.