Hacking Question SX OS AutoRCM

[KoiFishLord]

Greetings all,

I know a lot of people here ask the same questions over and over again, but I wanted to just get clarification on two things:

1.) With SX OS AutoRCM, what happens if your console runs out of battery at some point? Is it possible to charge it back up from nothing or is it long gone?

2.) Looking at Altina's reply at /switch-back-to-stock.508862/ (New member, long-time lurker, can't post hyperlinks) , it sounds as though one can boot into original FW by holding volume up while powering on without having to upload a payload? So is it possible to still boot into regular FW without something to deliver a payload while AutoRCM is installed, or will we have to upload a payload for it as well as with CFW?

 

[Kubas_inko]

1. You can charge your console no problem
2. I think that you need payload for everything, once autorcm is enabled.

 

[windhazard]

1. Yes. From what I've heard, you can either put it in the dock (no idea why it's different docked or not) or shut it down by holding Power for 10s and charge normally.
2. No. If this was possible, there's no point to ask about 1)

 

[thefunkygibbon]

Whilst we are on the subject, another question
Does SX's AutoRCM do anything different to the other AutoRCM methods?

The reason i ask is that, something not a lot of people are talking about, but you can't seem to turn OFF a switch which has AutoRCM enabled on it. Battery WILL drain, and drain much quicker than in standby, if you try to turn it off/shutdown as opposed to sleep.
I've tested this myself and it drains about 15% in a couple of hours compared to 1% in sleep. or 0% if it's been switched off with no AutoRCM on the switch.

please feel free to test this yourself as I've only tested it on my own switch.

 

[LightOffPro]

No, AutoRCM is just that, corruption of the boot0.

Thing is, SXOS AutoRCM corrupts differently than other AutoRCM solutions. Every solution corrupts the boot0 in a different way. That's why you can't restore Rei's AutoRCM with SXOS AutoRCM.

All AutoRCM solutions do the exact same thing, the battery drain is the same.

 

[nitrozz]

i have tx pro. its safe to turn autorcm on ?

 

[Kubas_inko]

Yes. But it will automaticaly boot to RCM (after 13 seconds) after shutting it down from Horizon, so you have to force shut it down (hold power button for 12+ seconds)

 

[leonmagnus99]

Whilst we are on the subject, another question
Does SX's AutoRCM do anything different to the other AutoRCM methods?

The reason i ask is that, something not a lot of people are talking about, but you can't seem to turn OFF a switch which has AutoRCM enabled on it. Battery WILL drain, and drain much quicker than in standby, if you try to turn it off/shutdown as opposed to sleep.
I've tested this myself and it drains about 15% in a couple of hours compared to 1% in sleep. or 0% if it's been switched off with no AutoRCM on the switch.

please feel free to test this yourself as I've only tested it on my own switch.

same thing here, if i had a jig id sometimes disable autorcm to power it off at times to give it a good off time as i constantly put it in sleep mode only (or at times into ofw to test stuff on eshop).

but mostly it's in sleep mode, it's been a month haven't done a full power off cause I'm too lazy to make using that tin foil thing method..

and i like autorcm, i just wish there was a way for them to make it permanent on power off cycles somehow as autorcm seems to not allow the switch to go fully off.

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so you have to force shut it down (hold power button for 12+ seconds)

wait is this possible? but if i did that would i need to re-use something like a jig to get back into autorcm (i mean would that force power off uninstall autorcm correct?)

 

[Kubas_inko]

No, AutoRCM is just that, corruption of the boot0.

Thing is, SXOS AutoRCM corrupts differently than other AutoRCM solutions. Every solution corrupts the boot0 in a different way. That's why you can't restore Rei's AutoRCM with SXOS AutoRCM.

All AutoRCM solutions do the exact same thing, the battery drain is the same.

You can restore any AutoRCM with any AutoRCM except rei's...

same thing here, if i had a jig id sometimes disable autorcm to power it off at times to give it a good off time as i constantly put it in sleep mode only (or at times into ofw to test stuff on eshop).

but mostly it's in sleep mode, it's been a month haven't done a full power off cause I'm too lazy to make using that tin foil thing method..

and i like autorcm, i just wish there was a way for them to make it permanent on power off cycles somehow as autorcm seems to not allow the switch to go fully off.

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wait is this possible? but if i did that would i need to re-use something like a jig to get back into autorcm (i mean would that force power off uninstall autorcm correct?)

That's not uninstalling anything. Just to turn the switch completely off after it automatically boots to RCM (after you power it off from horizon). You can then turn it on and it will normally boot to RCM.

 

[leonmagnus99]

That's not uninstalling anything. Just to turn the switch completely off after it automatically boots to RCM (after you power it off from horizon). You can then turn it on and it will normally boot to RCM

will it drain battery or is it full power off the way you Mention it.
so like first power off then hold the power button to force power it off or how?

 

[Kubas_inko]

will it drain battery or is it full power off the way you Mention it.
so like first power off then hold the power button to force power it off or how?

It won't drain the battery, because you force shut it down.
You can do it either from the horizon or after you power it down (and wait 12 secs for switch to boot to RCM automatically) and then force shut it down.

 

[leonmagnus99]

You can do it either from the horizon

from horizon means from ofw?
or (while the system is on) by simply holding power until the system goes off?

 

[Kubas_inko]

from horizon means from ofw?
or (while the system is on) by simply holding power until the system goes off?

yup

 

[leonmagnus99]

yup

sorry which, ofw or just while the system is on XD

i just want to be able to power it off completely (with no drain issue) and even that it keeps autorcm for when i boot it next time

 

[Kubas_inko]

sorry which, ofw or just while the system is on XD

i just want to be able to power it off completely (with no drain issue) and even that it keeps autorcm for when i boot it next time

Just force shut down works from anywhere. So from anywhere.

 

[DaveLister]

Autoc RCM is not worth the trouble , it will constantly produce dead bat in deep charge mode - so recovering can take 30 mins before your back in . I see it more of a brick risk having the boot 0 corrupted to achieve the goal. Just use jig , keep her in standby you will see in user experience its actually easier and less hassle long term. Keep your jig and dongle in your protective switch bag with you at all times - renders the autorcm moot imho.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

it will constantly produce dead bat in deep charge mode

Not sure what bull's ass you pulled that shit from. I've been using autorcm since day0 and haven't had a dead battery yet.

I see it more of a brick risk having the boot 0 corrupted

autorcm in itself is a brick. As long as you have a nand backup, which is the first thing you should do anyway, it can always be restored. You can't brick RCM mode unless you damage the actual hardware.

 

[Kubas_inko]

Not sure what bull's ass you pulled that shit from. I've been using autorcm since day0 and haven't had a dead battery yet.

He doesn't know how to force shutdown his switch...

 

[DaveLister]

lol.

 

[leonmagnus99]

As long as you have a nand backup

can you link me to some place that shows how to backup nand please?