Hacking Atmosphére Release Date, Release Features And Planned Features Announced

[Wierd_w]

I did NOT ignore the message. The question was if Atmo will work without a hardmod. The answer is YES.

It is just wrong to call shartening some pins a hardware MODIFICATION, because the hardware is obviously not MODIFIED

Futzing with that dinky-as-hell, and inconveniently tucked away rail connector, with its super delicate ZIF contact pads that are less than 1mm wide on each land, is a real PITA. Trust me, it was the most time consuming part of my switch mod day. (No, dumping the nand did not take as long as cobbling together a safe but still ghetto as hell jig.) After dumping the nand, the very next thing I did was install autoRCM, because fuck that shit. That's how ZIF contacts get broken.

Now, that out of the way--- You still need something to tether to to inject the IPL, due to the locked boot loader code check. Your options list is pretty short: PC, Mac, Cellphone, Embedded Linux Dongle, or Microcontroller.

The last one is handy, because they are small and fast, and can be built up inside the case pretty cheaply. COTS parts can be used. (Thank's Adafruit! I know it is not what you intend those for, but those are quality merch, and I DO appreciate quality.) That most definitely IS a hardware mod.

When most people think "Softmod", they think "Oh, I dont have to dick around with the hardare at all." Much like we did with the Wii and the Wii-U, (and also the PSP, and the 3DS.) For the switch, we need something to inject an IPL using a stack smash exploit in the Tegra's USB stack. This means fiddling with teeny tiny ZIF connectors, and plugging in 'something' into the USB port.

 

[c80]

When most people think "Softmod", they think "Oh, I dont have to dick around with the hardare at all."

Exactly! Most people confuse a tethered softmod with a hardmod.

also the PSP

Some of the softmods require hardware, too. The modified (soft and hard are both possible) battery works similar to the jig and you need a 'magic' memory stick to boot from.

 

[8BitWonder]

I did NOT ignore the message. The question was if Atmo will work without a hardmod. The answer is YES.

It is just wrong to call shartening some pins a hardware MODIFICATION, because the hardware is obviously not MODIFIED

So you knew what they were asking, despite them using the wrong terminology (in your opinion).
But you decided to be vague anyway, since it didn't fit your definition of hardmod?

I don't want to be that guy, but if people in general are calling it a hardmod, regardless of what you think that means; you should probably call it one too, if only to save some confusion and avoid spreading misinformation.

 

[c80]

wrong terminology (in your opinion).

No, not IN MY OPINION, just wrong terminology

it didn't fit your definition of hardmod?

No, not MY definition - THE definition. A hardware modification is defined as a modification of the hardware. What did you think it meant? lol

you should probably call it one too

You wanna tell me that if others are stupid, I should pretend to be stupid too? lol

to save some confusion and avoid spreading misinformation.

They were confused before and I hope now they are not anymore. I never spread misinformation, I did the exact opposite

 

[8BitWonder]

They were confused before and I hope now they are not anymore. I never spread misinformation, I did the exact opposite

Mm-hmm.

Will atmosphere work without hardware mods? aka shorting of pins

Yes, Atmosphere will work without hardwaremods. You will only need to short the pins and inject the payload just like the other CFWs

So they asked if Atmosphère would work without a hardmod, specifically without shorting pins. And you think giving a contradictory response that says "yes it will work without a hard mod, you just need to short the pins" will somehow make things less confusing. Again, despite knowing what they mean when they say hardmod, your definition somehow still takes precedence.
(Get uppity about it all you want, but if you are required to physically alter/add something to a system, even temporarily, it is a hardmod)

Feel free to ignore the concept I'm trying to convey again and cherry-pick my message.

 

[c80]

So they asked if Atmosphère would work without a hardmod, specifically without shorting pins.

If you solder the pins, that's a hardmod. Using a jig is not a modification. So the answer to the question is: yes, it works without a hardmod if you use a jig

 

[8BitWonder]

If you solder the pins, that's a hardmod. Using a jig is not a modification. So the answer to the question is: yes, it works without a hardmod if you use a jig

...if you are required to physically alter/add something to a system, even temporarily, it is a hardmod

My last post on this, because not only is this getting off-topic, but it's very clear you plan to cherry-pick any of my responses rather than understand the message I'm trying to convey.

It bothers me, but in the end it's not my problem if you want to use incorrect terminology and confuse people.

Edit: Again with the cherry-picking and ignoring what I'm trying to convey below. I can see why I had you on my ignore list.

 

[c80]

...if you are required to physically alter/add something to a system, even temporarily, it is a hardmod

This is where you are wrong. You cannot call it a modification, if you don't modify it

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use incorrect terminology and confuse people

I do the exact opposite. I'm trying to unconfuse people by using the correct terminology


edit: please look up, what a modding means: "Modding is a slang expression that is derived from the verb "modify". Modding refers to the act of modifying hardware, software, or virtually anything else, to perform a function not originally conceived or intended by the designer, or achieve a bespoke specification." source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modding

Entering RCM by shortening the pins is intended by the designer

 

[salamandrusker]

release date 48 august!

 

[loler55]

Should be Released on mar10 day..
@SciresM eventually a Good idea to Fake These Error Reports and Not Block Them ?
Exchange the Bad Report with a Good One
Without Bad Information?
That it looks like that we Never use any hombrew

 

[coooooper]

I dont really care about all the announced features, I just need warmboot.

 

[jimmyj]

ReiNx doesn-t officially have sigpatches. Users got them into it and onto atmosphere as well.


No.

Hekate is a separate project from atmosphere.


I was going to say something but I saw the /s


June 15 wasn't atmosphere release date.
And a lot of thing have been added meanwhile.


No those are crashlog aand are very different. Sending none isn't a ban flag and not even risky.

at one point reiNX did officially have sigpatches,before rajkosto had them removed.

 

[Thetoto]

Looks very good ! Thanks for this awesome work.

 

[jakkal]

Yes, Atmosphere will work without hardwaremods. You will only need to short the pins and inject the payload just like the other CFWs

That is a hardware mod. Lul

 

[AlexMCS]

No one 'knows' this, because its wrong. 32 GiB ~28 GB (exactly 29,8023) GB

It's the other way around, pal. 32 GB is 29,8023 GiB.

Also, while the switch jig is not a hardmod perse, it's also not a pure softmod either.
The closest term I can think of is "tool-assisted softmod".

 

[c80]

That is a hardware mod. Lul

If you solder it, yes. Using a jig, it is not a modification at all. So you can do this without a hardwaremod, by just shortening the pins.

 

[jakkal]

If you solder it, yes. If you use a jig, it is not a modification at all. So you can do this without a hardwaremod, by just shortening the pins.

Don't you realize that soldering or shorting the pins is still doing hardware modifications

What are you not getting?

 

[c80]

It's the other way around, pal. 32 GB is 29,8023 GiB.

Oops, you are right. Thanks!

Also, while the switch jig is not a hardmod perse, it's also not a pure softmod either.
The closest term I can think of is "tool-assisted softmod".

No, the jig is not a mod at all. Neither softmod nor hardmod. This is because nothing is modified bythe jig

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Don't you realize that soldering or shorting the pins is still doing hardware modifications

What are you not getting?

I get it. You have a problem, not I. Soldering is clearly a modification, but shortening the pins with a jig or a wire is not a modification at all.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Oops, you are right. Thanks!


No, the jig is not a mod at all. Neither softmod nor hardmod. This is because nothing is modified bythe jig

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I get it. You have a problem, not I. Soldering is clearly a modification, but shortening the pins with a jig or a wire is not a modification at all.

come on man, we all get you're technically right, but when people say softmod/without hardmod, they mean "it just works without doing anything" and no matter how technically right you'll be about that, this will never change.

 

[c80]

this will never change

Not with your attitude