Hacking Installing auto rcm pros and cons

[mickthestud]

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[SaggyBeans]

Pro: You don’t have to use a jig every time you restart your Switch.
Con: You are making a modification to the system which comes with some risk. The first being that Nintendo may know.. but installing SX OS on its own is a risk for ban so this CON can be argued as void.

I installed autoRCM because I don’t have a jig yet and the risk of me shorting something out is greater than the risks associated with making a slight modification to the system.. my 2 cents.

 

[Lacius]

Pros: No need for a jig, won't burn efuses if you updated using the guide
Cons: Possible battery issues, the Switch is tethered on each coldboot

 

[brollikk]

auto RCM is good except that turning the console off keeps it on still. It will drain overnight even though you think its off because the screen will look off but be in RCM mode.

 

[achandab]

auto RCM is good except that turning the console off keeps it on still. It will drain overnight even though you think its off because the screen will look off but be in RCM mode.

is this confirmed? because if so that's a serious con, not just because of battery draining, but being constantly on can't be good for the system. Unless it's in the same sort of sleep mode the Switch goes into normally. Not sure how RCM mode works.

 

[Thetoto]

is this confirmed? because if so that's a serious con, not just because of battery draining, but being constantly on can't be good for the system. Unless it's in the same sort of sleep mode the Switch goes into normally. Not sure how RCM mode works.

No that's false.
The only point is that you can't know if your switch is on or off. So you'll drain your battery if the switch is on (rcm mode). But you can obviously power it off.
And when you plug your switch, power on, this is also a "problem".

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

No that's false.
The only point is that you can't know if your switch is on or off. So you'll drain your battery if the switch is on (rcm mode). But you can obviously power it off.
And when you plug your switch, power on, this is also a "problem".

Correct it works just the same as a normal system boot only difference is when turning on instead of loading system menu it reboots to RCM

 

[achandab]

No that's false.
The only point is that you can't know if your switch is on or off. So you'll drain your battery if the switch is on (rcm mode). But you can obviously power it off.
And when you plug your switch, power on, this is also a "problem".

Correct it works just the same as a normal system boot only difference is when turning on instead of loading system menu it reboots to RCM

Cheers thanks for clearing that up guys.

 

[mickthestud]

Cheers thanks for clearing that up guys.

In rcm mode do you stil need go reinstall the dongle after you completely switch it off then on again

 

[Muskusrat]

In rcm mode do you stil need go reinstall the dongle after you completely switch it off then on again

Yes you still need use the dingle each time you power on the Switch. Just keep the Switch in sleep mode and you are all set, no need for auto rcm or the dongle. Works great with SX os, no idea if it works with the other hacks.

 

[DocAmes1980]

No that's false.
The only point is that you can't know if your switch is on or off. So you'll drain your battery if the switch is on (rcm mode). But you can obviously power it off.
And when you plug your switch, power on, this is also a "problem".

Incorrect. When you power it off normally it restarts into RCM mode. I haven't tested extensively but the two times I powered off with AutoRCM installed it went from 100% to completly dead (unable to boot) in 18 hours. Maybe less than 18 hours as I didn't try powering on until I got home from work. Apparently some are saying that if you power off from the SX boot menu it will truly power off.

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Correct it works just the same as a normal system boot only difference is when turning on instead of loading system menu it reboots to RCM

Not in my experience. If there are people who are not having this issue I'd like to know what is different with their systems. Firmware? Although I'm not sure why a different firmware would make a difference. I'm on FW 5.1.0

https://gbatemp.net/threads/battery-drain-w-autorcm-poll-question.509649/#post-8108014

 

[Xathya]

the pros is of: faste bots and thise

And go ...

no need of jogs!!
while of k-ons: switch dye. and need to wait for multiple hour/send to nitrendo fast repairs...

 

[slaphappygamer]

If you’re going to use sleep mode all the time anyway, may as well just NOT install auto rcm..........if it were me.

 

[zaku]

I can confirm powering off normally doesn't work in autorcm. I have to hold down power button to turn it off for real.

 

[DocAmes1980]

If you’re going to use sleep mode all the time anyway, may as well just NOT install auto rcm..........if it were me.

SX updates, adding .XCI files, swapping SD cards, FW updates, and crashes require power cycling the console. I think autoRCM is perfect for those who use sleep mode instead of powering off. You don't have to worry if the console is really off because you know it's in sleep mode. When you do have to power cycle/restart for one of the above events you dont have to use a jig. I usually power off but I've been putting it to sleep rather than hard powering off or rebooting to the SX bootloader and choosing the power off option from there.

 

[Thetoto]

Incorrect. When you power it off normally it restarts into RCM mode. I haven't tested extensively but the two times I powered off with AutoRCM installed it went from 100% to completly dead (unable to boot) in 18 hours. Maybe less than 18 hours as I didn't try powering on until I got home from work. Apparently some are saying that if you power off from the SX boot menu it will truly power off.

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Not in my experience. If there are people who are not having this issue I'd like to know what is different with their systems. Firmware? Although I'm not sure why a different firmware would make a difference. I'm on FW 5.1.0

https://gbatemp.net/threads/battery-drain-w-autorcm-poll-question.509649/#post-8108014

I use hekate AutoRcm since day one and never had problems.
When I power off my switch, the switch is completely off. When I power off at 100% some days after, still 100%.
But when I plug my phone to boot, it turns on automatically into RCM and boot.

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

Incorrect. When you power it off normally it restarts into RCM mode. I haven't tested extensively but the two times I powered off with AutoRCM installed it went from 100% to completly dead (unable to boot) in 18 hours. Maybe less than 18 hours as I didn't try powering on until I got home from work. Apparently some are saying that if you power off from the SX boot menu it will truly power off.

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Not in my experience. If there are people who are not having this issue I'd like to know what is different with their systems. Firmware? Although I'm not sure why a different firmware would make a difference. I'm on FW 5.1.0

https://gbatemp.net/threads/battery-drain-w-autorcm-poll-question.509649/#post-8108014

firmware means nothing the way autorcm works is it corrupts a part of your boot1 which causes the system to freak out and reboot to rcm when trying to boot Horizon which is the switch OS

 

[Thetoto]

Just try :
I power off the switch with Horizon when the switch is plugged to my phone. NX loader send a payload when it detect a switch in RCM mode.
So, when I power off the switch, nothing happen. When I push power button, nx loader detect the switch.

So the switch was off.

And if I choose reboot option in Horizon, the switch reboot to RCM and NX loader detect it immediately.

Reminder : I use Hekate AutoRcm

 

[DocAmes1980]

I use hekate AutoRcm since day one and never had problems.
When I power off my switch, the switch is completely off. When I power off at 100% some days after, still 100%.
But when I plug my phone to boot, it turns on automatically into RCM and boot.

Then perhaps it is relegated to SX autoRCM because my Switch is definitely restarting to RCM after shutdown from the OS.

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firmware means nothing the way autorcm works is it corrupts a part of your boot1 which causes the system to freak out and reboot to rcm when trying to boot Horizon which is the switch OS

I know. Which is why I said I don't see why FW version should make a difference.

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Just try :
I power off the switch with Horizon when the switch is plugged to my phone. NX loader send a payload when it detect a switch in RCM mode.
So, when I power off the switch, nothing happen. When I push power button, nx loader detect the switch.

So the switch was off.

And if I choose reboot option in Horizon, the switch reboot to RCM and NX loader detect it immediately.

Reminder : I use Hekate AutoRcm

Thank you, but there is no need for me to try that. It is definitely rebooting to RCM upon shutdown. Hekate autoRCM vs SX autoRCM might make the difference. Not sure why that would be.

 

[Thetoto]

Maybe there is a difference between hekate and sx autoRCM, I'll try then.

But you can use auto RCM from hekate and use SX pro if you want.