Hacking [Tutorial] How to update your backups using SX OS with the least ban risk

[The Real Jdbye]

You think that Nintendo can determine if you once insert the game cartbridge or played it from XCI/NCA file while you was offline? I don't think, because when you will update the game you will be in OFW with a different game in cartbridge but they don't know if you really played this game while you was offline.

I don't think they can currently, the whole point is that it acts like a real cartridge. They could implement some anti-piracy checks that can tell the difference in future updates but I don't think they've had the chance yet.
That doesn't mean it's safe though, since everyone using the same ROM dump is effectively using the same "cartridge". But if it never sees the cartridge as inserted while you're online, it should theoretically be safer, since at least Nintendo won't see that you're online with the same cartridge inserted as thousands of other people simultaneously.

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You know, there's an edit button. There's no need to quadruple post.

 

[alexj9626]

I'm pretty sure that someone will release an NCA Installer Homebrew which will install the update/dlc.

Is it possible to dump updates/dlc?

 

[NeoSlyde]

I don't think they can currently, the whole point is that it acts like a real cartridge. They could implement some anti-piracy checks that can tell the difference in future updates but I don't think they've had the chance yet.
That doesn't mean it's safe though, since everyone using the same ROM dump is effectively using the same "cartridge". But if it never sees the cartridge as inserted while you're online, it should theoretically be safer, since at least Nintendo won't see that you're online with the same cartridge inserted as thousands of other people simultaneously.

You know, there's an edit button. There's no need to quadruple post.

Lol auto-merge doe

 

[alexj9626]

What?
The game is just saved as a cartridge and you can update it without problem because the information of the cartridge isn't registered
It's pretty safe

Are you sure the information of the cartridge isnt registered? I mean, i dont know, but i dont think you know that neither. You may be right, but if thats the case, how do you know its like that?

 

[NeoSlyde]

Are you sure the information of the cartridge isnt registered? I mean, i dont know, but i dont think you know that neither. You may be right, but if thats the case, how do you know its like that?

You see that reward thing?
When you choose it you must have the cartridge insered otherwise it can't have the information to check if it's already redemed or no
That's why this confirm my theory

 

[alexj9626]

You think that Nintendo can determine if you once insert the game cartbridge or played it from XCI/NCA file while you was offline? I don't think, because when you will update the game you will be in OFW with a different game in cartbridge but they don't know if you really played this game while you was offline.

They know, i mean, the 3DS has a game log and that is send to Ninti.

I dont see a reason why it wont be the same on the Switch, we have a game log, we can see playtime and all that stuff.

At the end of the day, neither you nor me knows that, so dont go saying IT IS like that.

 

[Xandroz]

i would just update and honestly wont give a F if they banned me, i aint playing online.
and i got banned i still can update the system so i dont care really.

but a homebrew app to install updates will be epic.

 

[alexj9626]

You see that reward thing?
When you choose it you need to have the cartridge insered otherwise it can't have the information to check if it's already redemed or no
That's why this confirm my theory

I mean, yeah that could be it, but is far from confirming your theory. Just speculation.

Still, belive me, i wish you are right, so we dont get banned or anything, but as of today we cant know for sure, so better not risk it.

 

[NeoSlyde]

I mean, yeah that could be it, but is far from confirming your theory. Just speculation.

Still, belive me, i wish you are right, so we dont get banned or anything, but as of today we cant know for sure, so better not risk it.

I'm trying my method YOLO
i'll let you know if i get banned anytime soon

 

[alexj9626]

I'm trying my method YOLO
i'll let you know if i get banned anytime soon

Thats what im looking for, hope nothings happens, tho.

 

[Draxzelex]

Is it possible to dump updates/dlc?

Yes although its a bit complicated: https://gbatemp.net/threads/dumping-your-titles-from-sd-a-bit-advanced.507821/#post-8069129

 

[NeoSlyde]

Thats what im looking for, hope nothings happens, tho.

You know what is better than words and speculation and theories ?
Application and actual proofs and experience

 

[matias3ds]

i am updating the back ups , with no problem at all , already updated rrabbids , mario kart , arms , kirby star alliance , zelda botw .
without none of those steps .
And the great thing is that the games i already sold kept the save file even playing a different back up ID

 

[Ploco]

They know, i mean, the 3DS has a game log and that is send to Ninti.

I dont see a reason why it wont be the same on the Switch, we have a game log, we can see playtime and all that stuff.

At the end of the day, neither you nor me knows that, so dont go saying IT IS like that.

You are right, nobody knows.

 

[NeoSlyde]

i am updating the back ups , with no problem at all , already updated rrabbids , mario kart , arms , kirby star alliance , zelda botw .
without none of those steps .
And the great thing is that the games i already sold kept the save file even playing a different back up ID

Well my steps are specially for paranoiac people x)

 

[The Real Jdbye]

You see that reward thing?
When you choose it you must have the cartridge insered otherwise it can't have the information to check if it's already redemed or no
That's why this confirm my theory

Or it could just be to make sure you're not trying to redeem points for a game you no longer have.

 

[alexj9626]

Yes although its a bit complicated: https://gbatemp.net/threads/dumping-your-titles-from-sd-a-bit-advanced.507821/#post-8069129

Oh so they get them with NAND dumps and decrypt the whole thing to get update files, right? I think i saw something like that couple days ago. So we need an installer for them and well, the updates/dlc dumps, that i have not see around as of now.

You know what is better than words and speculation and theories ?
Application and actual proofs and experience

To be honest, im a little, coward? about that stuff so i dont like to risk it. I dont care about online as of now, but i want to play smash in the future...

 

[NeoSlyde]

Or it could just be to make sure you're not trying to redeem points for a game you no longer have.

Oh damn, you are right

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Oh so they get them with NAND dumps and decrypt the whole thing to get update files, right? I think i saw something like that couple days ago. So we need an installer for them and well, the updates/dlc dumps, that i have not see around as of now.



To be honest, im a little, coward? about that stuff so i dont like to risk it. I dont care about online as of now, but i want to play smash in the future...

Lol i never played a smash game online, always with friends in the room
Exept Project M in dolphin lmao

 

[Draxzelex]

Oh so they get them with NAND dumps and decrypt the whole thing to get update files, right? I think i saw something like that couple days ago. So we need an installer for them and well, the updates/dlc dumps, that i have not see around as of now.

That is what boginstaller is meant to be but its still a work-in-progress.

To be honest, im a little, coward? about that stuff so i dont like to risk it. I dont care about online as of now, but i want to play smash in the future...

Same, I want to settle things in Smash when December rolls around

 

[tbb043]

Sounds about as safe as putting on a rubber after you bone a disease infested hooker.