SJWs are ruining everything we love

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Well, to be fair, I was only enlisted in the U.S. Army a under a decade ago, and disabled individuals were not accepted for active duty. Has this changed ? I understand this is a work of fiction however.
https://www.quora.com/Can-an-amputee-serve-in-combat

Yeah, amputees can serve in combat situations and have been able to for a little while now. I'm also not exactly going to flaunt EA as the pinnacle of historical accuracy, but I'd imagine that in the thick of WWII they'd probably take just about anybody that could demonstrate capability of shooting a gun and humping their own gear
 
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SJWs should get creative and make new characters rather than drastically changing people's idols.
In Japan rather than making 50 different versions of Goku, writers and artists make up new characters and it's great because there is a large variety of different heroes for manga and anime fans can identify with.

I had a lot of issues growing up and I kept them from a friend of mine and when I finally opened up to him he didn't want to talk to me anymore because the person he befriended wasn't real and now I'm this stranger who had been lying to him for years. People don't like it when something they're familiar with is no longer familiar, familiarity gives people a sense of security and when you rob them of that familiarity you are taking away their security.
 

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Oh yeah, that's right. They're doing a live action teen titans and couldn't leave that alone either. This isn't the Starfire I grew up with
This is the biggest "Fuck you" to the original series.
 

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https://www.quora.com/Can-an-amputee-serve-in-combat

Yeah, amputees can serve in combat situations and have been able to for a little while now. I'm also not exactly going to flaunt EA as the pinnacle of historical accuracy, but I'd imagine that in the thick of WWII they'd probably take just about anybody that could demonstrate capability of shooting a gun and humping their own gear
Prosthetic's are getting better. And bionic and exo suits will make humans stronger than we currently are. That combined with nano technology will change the war landscape.
 

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https://www.quora.com/Can-an-amputee-serve-in-combat

Yeah, amputees can serve in combat situations and have been able to for a little while now. I'm also not exactly going to flaunt EA as the pinnacle of historical accuracy, but I'd imagine that in the thick of WWII they'd probably take just about anybody that could demonstrate capability of shooting a gun and humping their own gear
Interesting. I'm willing to wager some of the enlisted are leery of someone with a physical disability in live fire, let alone as defense for a squad.
 

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Interesting. I'm willing to wager some of the enlisted are leery of someone with a physical disability in live fire, let alone as defense for a squad.
Infantry is pretty leery of a lot of stuff, but mostly how knowledgeable/ignorant someone is. The ability to return fire is second in importance, followed by physical ability. As long as you don't choke, that you have a good record, they'll rely on you.
 
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Infantry is pretty leery of a lot of stuff, but mostly how knowledgeable/ignorant someone is. The ability to return fire is second in importance, followed by physical ability. As long as you don't choke, that you have a good record, they'll rely on you.
Are you implying your a former /current service member ?
 

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Although I do think changing the race of a character is something a bit too extreme, butwhat I mind more is the OP's hypocrisy here.

People who say women opress men haven't really been in their shoes, Right wing men really haven't experienced true misandry they are just against women speaking out recently. Women on the other hand have been under men's opression for centuries, same for the LGBT. I'd reckon instead of a Women's day we need a misandry month where men should really learn how it feels to be controlled.
 
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Although I do think changing the race of a character is something a bit too extreme, butwhat I mind more is the OP's hypocrisy here.

People who say women opress men haven't really been in their shoes, Right wing men really haven't experienced true misandry they are just against women speaking out recently. Women on the other hand have been under men's opression for centuries, same for the LGBT. I'd reckon instead of a Women's day we need a misandry month where men should really learn how it feels to be controlled.

Then dont let yourself be controlled. It sounds insultingly simple - but thats what it comes down to. Individually, as a movement, both.

Its one thing to point out oppression, structural racism, or misogyny - its another thing to make your outgroup one half of humankind, and demand your own commemoration month for being born one gender or another. The all but too new concept of cisgender aside, because no one will ever be able to change societies perception on the basis of telling others what they selfidentiy as (martian, usually - speaking for myself, ...) - people out there judge others, based on perception. And while you can change norms, you cant change that.

You are then playing into concepts like "inherited debt" witch we hadn't anymore since the 15th century. You are playing into stereotypes of oppression, where there was none. And thats more harmful to peoples goodwill, than catching those fringe cases you may have called out in the process.

Its not that obscure of a concept - when empowerment flips over an becomes structural oppression on your part, based on characteristics the other person you are talking about cant change - guess what you are engaging in.

Its a long hard path to change society, and you dont do it by earmarking half of the population as "something". Thats just too large of a group to attribute anything to.

Its also the freakingly easiest thing to "identify as" you dont even have to develop social concepts like, nationality, political orientation, favorite music genre - all you have to manage is to be born on on side of the "spectrum of gender" or the other. There is no abstraction, this takes no effort - and therefore it doesnt work. People usually (numbers) dont choose to belong to that group, and therefore there is no cohesion you could play off of - if you use it to "get ahead" people will gladly use the shortcut, then shed the allegiance at the next point it doesnt benefit them.

Point being - no one ever makes ingroups based on characteristics as common or universal as gender. It doesnt work.

Even the old boys clubs you are trying to go up agains, have no allegiance to "males" it wouldnt work for them to play on the commonalities with the guy that sells them a club soda.

All the venues are open to you. You can read, vote, study, congregate. If you see a glass ceiling, you can try to break it as well. And if it doesnt work, you have to try again. But be ensured, that the group preventing you from doing so, isnt one half of the worlds population.
 
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Although I do think changing the race of a character is something a bit too extreme, butwhat I mind more is the OP's hypocrisy here.

People who say women opress men haven't really been in their shoes, Right wing men really haven't experienced true misandry they are just against women speaking out recently. Women on the other hand have been under men's opression for centuries, same for the LGBT. I'd reckon instead of a Women's day we need a misandry month where men should really learn how it feels to be controlled.
Ugly people have also been discriminated for years because they don't get the same job opportunities as good looking people. They earn less, are less likely to be promoted, are less likely to get into political office, and less likely to get many opportunities in life.

People who are attractive are seen more friendly, sociable, reliable and competent than ugly people. Ugly people are seen as lazy and unproductive. Unlike race and gender, ugly people is not a protected group by law. And is even more of a factor of discrimination than gender or race because of no law protection. Ugly people have been a disadvantaged group for thousands and thousands of years. Even before modern humans walked on this planet. Our ancestors treated attractive people much better, and more likely to breed with them then ugly ones.

Not only that but theres also height, age, weight, genetic intelligence, geography, time period, health, wealth, natural athleticism, family structure, friendship (knowing someone in business), and many other factors. These affect all groups of race. White, black, hispanic, male, female. And hardly any evidence that these factors are less important either. Some of these are even more of a factor then race and gender. Why don't people attack these as much as other variables that can affect job opportunities and status? Why only focus on gender and race?

What if your black and female? Are you being disadvantaged by the white female? Because the white female has more opportunities than you.
What if you are gay, black and female? Are you being disadvantaged by the black female and the white female because they have privilege over you? Should you protest them too along with men? What if you are gay, black, female, and ugly? What if you are gay, black, female, old, ugly, short, fat, has poor genetic intelligence and so on. How do you interpret all this?

White males, there are different ranks among them too. Does being a ugly male knock you down on the oppression ladder?
What about ugly, white, poor athleticism and fat. Does that mean the male higher then you is oppressing you because they have more opportunities? Are they apart of the oppressed group too? Is their a ranking system on how oppressive you are based on all the traits you have and don't have? And how do you rank all this? What is considered line of oppressed and privileged? Different people can have a different mix of all these so how do you rank all this? There are infinite number of ways to interpret the world and interpret why things happen. So this would go on and on.

Or are people individuals with many complex things going on with them and can't be grouped by only typical narrow traits like race and gender. People respect individuality, but once it comes to topics about race and gender, individuality goes out the door in favor of a narrow marxist ideal of proletariate and bourgeois oppression mindset.
 
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As annoying as hardcore SJW's can be, they don't kill and terroize someone because of their race, heritage or religion like actual fucking conservative Christian terrorists aka Neo-nazi's/KKK. So while the right is calling someone a terrorist because they have pink hair and wear a vagina hat, there's ACTUAL domestic terrorists roaming this country spewing their religious and hateful beliefs everywhere.

Oh wait, conservatives support that. Or at least they don't actively oppose it.
 

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Ugly people have also been discriminated for years because they don't get the same job opportunities as good looking people.

How come Brad Pitt always gets away with being Brad Pitt? ;)

Even in feminist circles (the posters you had on your bedroom walls, when you were younger)? Answer, because hes in the center of society - where everyone would like to end up at. ;)

Theres a great anecdote thats entirely inappropriate to tell at this point, so of course I'm doing it ;) - told by David Spade of all types, where he went to a celebrity auction, for a good cause (afair it was Haity disaster relief) - where "the Khaleesi" was auctioned off ("watch an episode of Game of Thrones with the Khaleesi"). He bid 30k, but was quickly outpaced by other people in the room, where at I think 130k, Brad Pitt - of all males, who also attended the auction, made a bit. Spade describes the situation, as the Khaleesi being very flattered and cheerful, when the auctioneer swiped the room with his glance, and suddenly "some Harvey Weinstein knockoff" from the back of the room goes "160". Spade, then describes what must have happened in the Khaleesi's thought process at the time, considering her facial expression, and trying to haggle with the auctioneer, when Brad Pitt - of course - didn't renew his bit. :) I challenge you to find any male that doesnt draw amusement out of this story - or build a society, where this wouldnt catch a laugh. Meaning, you are also up against double standards - and they are also a part of human nature. And in some form always will be.

(Howard Stern Interview with David Spade, on 03.06.2018 - in case you are looking for it.. ;) )
 
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Ugly people have also been discriminated for years because they don't get the same job opportunities as good looking people. They earn less, are less likely to be promoted, are less likely to get into political office, and less likely to get many opportunities in life.

People who are attractive are seen more friendly, sociable, reliable and competent than ugly people. Ugly people are seen as lazy and unproductive. Unlike race and gender, ugly people is not a protected group by law. And is even more of a factor of discrimination than gender or race because of no law protection. Ugly people have been a disadvantaged group for thousands and thousands of years. Even before modern humans walked on this planet. Our ancestors treated attractive people much better, and more likely to breed with them then ugly ones.

Not only that but theres also height, age, weight, genetic intelligence, geography, time period, health, wealth, natural athleticism, family structure, friendship (knowing someone in business), and many other factors. These affect all groups of race. White, black, hispanic, male, female. And hardly any evidence that these factors are less important either. Some of these are even more of a factor then race and gender. Why don't people attack these as much as other variables that can affect job opportunities and status? Why only focus on gender and race?

What if your black and female? Are you being disadvantaged by the white female? Because the white female has more opportunities than you.
What if you are gay, black and female? Are you being disadvantaged by the black female and the white female because they have privilege over you? Should you protest them too along with men? What if you are gay, black, female, and ugly? What if you are gay, black, female, old, ugly, short, fat, has poor genetic intelligence and so on. How do you interpret all this?

White males, there are different ranks among them too. Does being a ugly male knock you down on the oppression ladder?
What about ugly, white, poor athleticism and fat. Does that mean the male higher then you is oppressing you because they have more opportunities? Are they apart of the oppressed group too? Is their a ranking system on how oppressive you are based on all the traits you have and don't have? And how do you rank all this? What is considered line of oppressed and privileged? Different people can have a different mix of all these so how do you rank all this? There are infinite number of ways to interpret the world and interpret why things happen. So this would go on and on.

Or are people individuals with many complex things going on with them and can't be grouped by only typical narrow traits like race and gender. People respect individuality, but once it comes to topics about race and gender, individuality goes out the door in favor of a narrow marxist ideal of proletariate and bourgeois oppression mindset.
And what you are saying is exactly what SJW "Terrorists" want to eliminate from society, by making those "ugly" people mainstream and removing the Image of beauty that the media has engraved in our brains throughout the years, hence you see rants on why video game women are so scantily clad in games.

Notice I never said straight white male in my post, because males of all races can be misogynistic and it applies to all countries, Indian African Arabian etc.
 

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What I object to is changing the defining qualities of established characters, making them not at all what the fans know them as. I have no problems with characters like Static and Cyborg, I like them in fact. What I do have a problem with is forcing diversity for diversity's sake. Also, there are plenty others who support that argument. And let's try to keep it civil here.

Wally West exists as both due to Flashpoint. You say they're ruining comics, yet you lack basic knowledge of the main universe for DC (since Flashpoint rebooted for the New 52 that paved the way for the new arcs like No Justice). Nick Fury being black came from the Ultimates universe (which the MCU is heavily based on), because the writers all the way back in 2002 wanted to base their depiction of Nick Fury on Samuel L Jackson.



You really have no knowledge of the characters you talk of. The new Thor is Jane Foster, Thor's sometimes wife. She took on the mantle when Thor was deemed unworthy of wielding Mjolnir. Ironheart is basically Ironmans apprentice. The gay Alan Scott isn't even mainline universe so it's pseudo-canon (the point of the multiverse was allowing newer writers to have creative freedom). Peter Parker was only dead temporarily, and coexists with Miles Morales. America Chavez had a one-time relationship with a guy. Captain Marvel is still a woman in the Marvel universe, and the DC one is still male.
This is why I never got into western comics, they have too many different series written by different people. And its pretty hard for people to try to make new heroes/comics cause if they tried to make anything similar they'd probably get sued by the big companies. I'll just stick to the movies.
 

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