Hacking Nintendo Switch Race for CFW

[weatMod]

this made me laugh way more than it should've

 

[sj33]

Team X = Capitalist
Reswitch = Communist

As demonstrated, money makes the world go round... money-driven projects can be accomplished quicker because there is a reward. With a free project, people took their time with no hurry.

If you're dismissing open source projects you're in the wrong 'scene'.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Team X = Capitalist
Reswitch = Communist

As demonstrated, money makes the world go round... money-driven projects can be accomplished quicker because there is a reward. With a free project, people took their time with no hurry.

As they say:

Yïkèß

 

[thekarter104]

Atmosphere for me.

I don't like modchips and I gladly wait for a softmod solution for 4.1.0.
I know Atmosphere is in its early stages and crashes, but that will be fixed eventually.

Just take the 3DS early days with Palentine CFW, that CFW had like a bootrate of literally 1%.
Then we had Pasta CFW only on 4.5. Only a few 4.5+ games work, probably up to 6.x with patches.
Then we had rxTools, didn't allow backups at first, but ofcourse I enjoyed it because it was not all about backups.
Then rxTools allowed backups. Now we have Luma and it's super easy. One day, that will happen with Atmosphere too.

And yes, I know I didn't mention Gateway, however I do remember the very early days where you could boot only 1 game per SD Card loool.

Don't want to wait, but rather be an impatient <beep> ? - Get the Team Xecuter modchip.
Up for some waiting until Atmosphere is stable enough? Wait for Atmosphere.

It's all up to you guys anyways.

 

[EmanueleBGN]

It will be summer in the US pretty quickly so the wait is almost over

Summer: from 21st June to 23rd September

 

[mnemonicpunk]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is... staggering.
While some people may be out to make a pretty penny with the knowledge about the FG exploit, Atmosphere is not involved in a race of any kind. It is about making quality software and releasing it when it is done.

So to address the rest of the half-truths in this thread:
Atmosphere uses a boot loader called "fusee", specifically "fusee-primary" to kick off basic hardware functionality and "fusee-secondary" to load up the CFW proper before executing it. While the names are similar, Atmosphere is not "wrapped in a fusee gelee payload". The original fusee gelee launcher is a viable - and for the time being the primary - method to load fusee-primary.

Furthermore: Atmosphere is making real strides towards booting. It does not fully boot yet, however. The original target release date of June 15 is still pretty realistic, I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw something cool a few days early, as an end user you should still wait for that day though.

And finally: We don't know for sure what Team Xecuter is using in terms of software. Since it is not unlikely that they use at least part of AMS' code, we should definitely be demanding to see source from TX. If they use AMS code, they are legally bound to make that source available to us, whether they want to or not. Regardless of what they actually use though, the video they posted is misleading at best, since it seems to imply cart emulation and the chip responsible for reading game carts is still very much secure, even with total control over the system having been achieved. Cart emulation is not a thing that is currently possible and if someone says they did it and tied money to that, I'd be more than skeptical about such a proposition.

 

[fenomeno0chris]

I really don't know if Team Xecuter used all their own code for their upcoming CFW solution, or if they borrowed a lot of SciresM and all involved devs of Atmosphere.

If they used a lot of SciresM work, than I think they don't deserve any penny.
I will wait and look what the community and SciresM will tell us about Switch NX.

 

[s-arash]

I really don't know if Team Xecuter used all their own code for their upcoming CFW solution, or if they borrowed a lot of SciresM and all involved devs of Atmosphere.

If they used a lot of SciresM work, than I think they don't deserve any penny.
I will wait and look what the community and SciresM will tell us about Switch NX.

I doubt TX would do that
They are very old in the console hacking scene, active since Xbox Original era

 

[fenomeno0chris]

I doubt hat TX would do that
they are very old in the console hacking scene, active since Xbox Original era

Ive read somewhere (sorry don't know where, maybe twitter) that SciresM is not happy about the stuff TX is doing. So which reason could he have to be mad at them?

 

[Nincompoopdo]

If you're dismissing open source projects you're in the wrong 'scene'.

Are you saying I'm not a communist?

 

[mnemonicpunk]

Ive read somewhere (sorry don't know where, maybe twitter) that SciresM is not happy about the stuff TX is doing. So which reason could he have to be mad at them?

Making money off of piracy.

 

[sj33]

Are you saying I'm not a communist?

Your phrasing implied a criticism of open source projects, so I assume so.

 

[fenomeno0chris]

Making money off of piracy.

If you're right, than SciresM acts very childish.
Just because he does everything without any intention of making money, doesn't mean that all other devs out there should act like that.
Like I said, I think SciresM is not mad about the money. Its about the code that TX is using (just my thought).

 

[Gameboy Color]

Making money off of piracy.

lol is he gonna get mad at krikkz and other flash cart makers too?

 

[The14thfly]

Team X = Capitalist
Reswitch = Communist

As demonstrated, money makes the world go round... money-driven projects can be accomplished quicker because there is a reward. With a free project, people took their time with no hurry.

Rewswitched: Hates piracy but doesn't mind sharing their work.

Team X: Loves piracy but hates people sharing their work.


Honestly both show signs of capitalism lol.

 

[mnemonicpunk]

If you're right, than SciresM acts very childish.
Just because he does everything without any intention of making money, doesn't mean that all other devs out there should act like that.
Like I said, I think SciresM is not mad about the money. Its about the code that TX is using (just my thought).

No. Nobody even knows for sure if they use any of the code.

When the video was released we were all mad about TX pretending to emulate the loading of cartridges. The ASIC used to load cartridges is still very much secure, meaning TX is deliberately fooling viewers into thinking they can do something with the dongle that they can't. All to make some money off of those poor viewers.

 

[linuxares]

To be fair, Atmosphere have already won the race. Since it's open and you can see the progress. It's the first open CFW. It just can't boot HorizonOS of yet.

 

[bixxewoscht]

For me there are a few important things that I don't know yet either about TX solution and Atmosphere:

-is it possible to play backups of your own games online without risking a ban?

-is it possible with pirated games?

-how easy is the entry in cfw every start?
TX Method seems ok but easier would be great, thats why I stay on 4.1 for now.

Because i don't know these things and some other stuff yet, I can't decide.

Generally i prefer softmod solution ofc.

 

[Tanmays007]

No. Nobody even knows for sure if they use any of the code.

When the video was released we were all mad about TX pretending to emulate the loading of cartridges. The ASIC used to load cartridges is still very much secure, meaning TX is deliberately fooling viewers into thinking they can do something with the dongle that they can't. All to make some money off of those poor viewers.

You are assuming TX hasn't found a way around cart emulation, just because RS hasn't found a way doesn't mean no one else has. TX has been around for many many years and I tend to believe the video which shows cart emulation. It serves them no purpose to fake it as they have to run a long term business and have been doing so for years.

 

[linuxares]

For me there are a few important things that I don't know yet either about TX solution and Atmosphere:

-is it possible to play backups of your own games online without risking a ban?

-is it possible with pirated games?

-how easy is the entry in cfw every start?
TX Method seems ok but easier would be great, thats why I stay on 4.1 for now.

Because i don't know these things and some other stuff yet, I can't decide.

Generally i prefer softmod solution ofc.

1) No, you will ALWAYS BE AT RISK!
2) With TX devices yes, with Atmopshere it's possible but someone must make an installer or loader of some sort. I don't think SciresM will implement it.

Learn that you will always be at risk of ban from Nintendo. They geared up during the 3DS and it would surprise me if they won't be hammer down instantly on the Swich since paid online is now a thing.